Radosh.net - writing:
"Too Young To Know: The Selling of Sassy. " A eulogy for one of the best magazines of the 1990s, and an inside look at how it all fell apart. Jane Pratt hates me because of this article, which is sad, because I don't want anyone who was involved with Sassy to hate me. I did print some less-than-flattering comments that other people made about Jane, but they are not my opinions, and I tried repeatedly to reach Jane for comment before I published them. Also, this article landed me in a stupid pissing contest with another Sassy fan in the early days of the Web, which I have always regretted (the pissing match, not the early days of the Web; well, both, actually). Her version of the story is about 75 percent correct. bummer dead link.
Saturday, April 28, 2007
Too Young to Know: The Selling of Sassy - by Daniel Radosh - radosh.net/writing
Sassy's radical approach was to give readers information and assume they were intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions. When staff writer Mary Ann Marshall wrote a fairly harsh profile of a teenage heroin addict but neglected to conclude with some version of don't try this at home, she was flooded with angry letters from parents who accused her of telling people who to use drugs.
Sassy was less restrained when it came to politics, and felt no compunction about sweeping rants and blanket condemnations there ("Nine Things About America That Make Us Want to Scream and Throw Stuff"). But other teen mags never bring up politics at all, unless it's, you know, animal rights, gun control, the environment. Sassy actually explained the historical roots of the Gulf War and lamented the death of family farms. What's more, the girls read it. The Gulf War article generated more mail than any other story in the magazine's history. cool
"It was the first magazine to treat readers with any respect at all," insists senior writer Margie Ingall. "And it permeated the magazine; it wasn't just, here's the section where we treat the readers like they have a brain -- make sure it doesn't seep out and taint the eye-makeup coverage."
Says Ingall, calling Sassy "The Magazine that talks about sex," is totally missing the point. "It should be `the only teen magazine ever to be nominated for a National Magazine Award for general excellence,' or `the only teen magazine where people grab you at parties and say, Oh my god, I love your magazine!"
Of course, if you're going to get into that, you'd have to add that it's the only teen magazine with advice columns written by Billy Corgan and Dean Ween; the only teen magazine whose "One to Watch" column has featured both Matthew Sweet (before Girlfriend) and 22-year-old astronomer Ben Oppenheimer; the only teen magazine whose review of In Utero ended with the sentence, "Kurt, I'm worried about your state of mind."
Sassy's radical approach was to give readers information and assume they were intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions. When staff writer Mary Ann Marshall wrote a fairly harsh profile of a teenage heroin addict but neglected to conclude with some version of don't try this at home, she was flooded with angry letters from parents who accused her of telling people who to use drugs.
Sassy was less restrained when it came to politics, and felt no compunction about sweeping rants and blanket condemnations there ("Nine Things About America That Make Us Want to Scream and Throw Stuff"). But other teen mags never bring up politics at all, unless it's, you know, animal rights, gun control, the environment. Sassy actually explained the historical roots of the Gulf War and lamented the death of family farms. What's more, the girls read it. The Gulf War article generated more mail than any other story in the magazine's history. cool
"It was the first magazine to treat readers with any respect at all," insists senior writer Margie Ingall. "And it permeated the magazine; it wasn't just, here's the section where we treat the readers like they have a brain -- make sure it doesn't seep out and taint the eye-makeup coverage."
Early in its history, Sassy was bought from the Australians by Dale Lang, who also owns Ms and Working Woman. By 1992, Lang managed to recoup his initial debt, but the magazine never turned a profit. Last April, he began looking for new investors.
By summer, the gallows humor was evident around the Sassy offices. The spine of the July '94 issue -- a space other magazines use to list contents, but which Sassy reserves for random thoughts -- winked, "Would you like fries with that?" The staff was practicing for their future employment. ah. cheeky.
On September 27, Lang sent a memo to the Sassy staff. "It is with deep regret that I must inform you Sassy magazine is being put up for immediate sale... I want all of you to know I've done everything possible to avoid this action. Sassy is a potentially great magazine and you are a fine young group of professional magazine people. You both deserve a chance that I can no longer provide."
"Potentially great?" was editor Christina Kelly's first reaction. Kelly called Lang's office and demanded an all-staff meeting.
Two days later, Jane Pratt appeared. From the beginning, founding-editor-in-chief Pratt was something of a figurehead. Cute, warm, and hip, the 24-year-old was the perfect person to pitch the Sassy concept to new readers and skeptical advertisers. For a while she actually edited the magazine too, althought it was people like Christina Kelly and Mary Kaye Schilling who provided the genuine style that readers responded to.
"Christina is more legitimately hip than Jane will ever be," confides one staffer, "but that's not what sells ads." So when Jane left in 1991 to host first one and then another disastrous daytime talk show, she remained on the masthead, while Schilling and then Kelly actually took charge. In hindsight, some people suggest, Lang should have dropped Pratt and given Kelly free reign at this juncture -- maybe she could have reinvigorated advertisers. In any case, by September 1994 it was rare for Pratt to visit the office.
Her reason for being there was to tell Lang and the staff of Sassy that she would not be going down with the ship. She was taking a job at Time Inc. Ventures, the putatively hipper branch of the media giant, with whom she'd been quietly developing a relationship for over a year.
Kelly and her predecessors took pride in their editorial independence, and more than a few envelope-pushing articles led to pulled ads. (not that it took much; when Sassy praised the merits of Teen Spirit deodorant -- this was pre-Nirvana -- but editorialized, "gag on the name," Mennen cancelled several ads as punishment.) hey I remember I liked the deodorant. and yes, despite the name.
To tell the truth, Sassy had a lot more problems than you'd feel comfortable bringing up in a memorial tribute. The inevitable fashion spreads were virtually identical to everyone else's. .. Sassy could lay on the lefty posturing a little thick too. .. But in the end, a 25-year-old guy can't help but feel admiration when a magazine aimed at teenage girls manages to piss him off. Indeed, while Sassy's median age was 15.4, it always had a cult following among the college and post-college set. Part of the appeal for older readers is what The New Republic described as the sense that Sassy was at once a teen magazine and a parody of teen magazines. Casual readers can be forgiven more for missing the irony.Says Ingall, calling Sassy "The Magazine that talks about sex," is totally missing the point. "It should be `the only teen magazine ever to be nominated for a National Magazine Award for general excellence,' or `the only teen magazine where people grab you at parties and say, Oh my god, I love your magazine!"
Of course, if you're going to get into that, you'd have to add that it's the only teen magazine with advice columns written by Billy Corgan and Dean Ween; the only teen magazine whose "One to Watch" column has featured both Matthew Sweet (before Girlfriend) and 22-year-old astronomer Ben Oppenheimer; the only teen magazine whose review of In Utero ended with the sentence, "Kurt, I'm worried about your state of mind."
Ironic -radosh.net/writing
Originally published in The New York Press, April 17, 1996
For those of you who don't watch MTV, the number one video for the past five weeks has been Alanis Morissette's "Ironic". That may not sound impressive, but in MTV time five weeks is a generation. Eight weeks after a song is first released, the artist is eligible for a "where are they now"segment.
"It’s like rain on your wedding day/It’s a free ride when you’ve already paid/It’s the good advice that you just didn’t take." It’s...a bummer, in other words. But is it ironic? Is there an incongruity between what is expected and what occurs? Is something revealed to the observer that remains hidden to the players, thus lending their words or actions a humor or poignancy of which they themselves are unaware? Is it something Socrates or Rod Serling might have said? No, I don’t think.
"A traffic jam when you’re already late/A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break." One begins to get the feeling that for Ms. Morissette, any unexpected situation qualifies as irony. A traffic jam when you would have been early otherwise? Man, that’s ironic. A no-smoking sign when you weren’t planning on smoking to begin with? How ironic can you get?
At its most irritating, "Ironic" relates the story of a man who has been afraid to fly his whole life, and when he finally does get on a plane, it crashes. "And isn’t it ironic?" Well, no. Ironic would be if he was so afraid to fly that he took a train and then the train crashed. But this? This is appropriate. This is the exact opposite of ironic.
Originally published in The New York Press, April 17, 1996
For those of you who don't watch MTV, the number one video for the past five weeks has been Alanis Morissette's "Ironic". That may not sound impressive, but in MTV time five weeks is a generation. Eight weeks after a song is first released, the artist is eligible for a "where are they now"segment.
"It’s like rain on your wedding day/It’s a free ride when you’ve already paid/It’s the good advice that you just didn’t take." It’s...a bummer, in other words. But is it ironic? Is there an incongruity between what is expected and what occurs? Is something revealed to the observer that remains hidden to the players, thus lending their words or actions a humor or poignancy of which they themselves are unaware? Is it something Socrates or Rod Serling might have said? No, I don’t think.
"A traffic jam when you’re already late/A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break." One begins to get the feeling that for Ms. Morissette, any unexpected situation qualifies as irony. A traffic jam when you would have been early otherwise? Man, that’s ironic. A no-smoking sign when you weren’t planning on smoking to begin with? How ironic can you get?
At its most irritating, "Ironic" relates the story of a man who has been afraid to fly his whole life, and when he finally does get on a plane, it crashes. "And isn’t it ironic?" Well, no. Ironic would be if he was so afraid to fly that he took a train and then the train crashed. But this? This is appropriate. This is the exact opposite of ironic.
mediabistro.com: Articles: There Goes My Hero—Finally. Why Jane Pratt's Jane never quite lived up to Jane Pratt's Sassy By Michelle Orange – September 14, 2005
Jane has always given itself too much credit—touting its ability to address this legitimacy gap between men's and women's magazines and treat young women as more than mannequins with wallets—but never more than in the last year. In the three years between Sassy's demise and Jane's debut I relied on Bust magazine (that would be the voice of the new girl order), for smart, funny content written by women. It was no Sassy, but then I suppose I was no teenager, and in trying to find a magazine that struck that same balance between the self-involved and the self-serious I was bound to run into a few that skewed too far either way. I bought the t-shirt—I bought two—and then Jane finally arrived.
"People love to be super-critical of Jane," Christina Kelly says, "and a lot of the criticism is unrealistic, because it's a commercial magazine, and as a commercial magazine it pushes the limits as far as they can go." But... what about..."Sassy was an aberration," she sighs, wearily, "and we were allowed to exist for a short time..." I can hear the irritation in her voice, and in case there was any doubt, she tells me: "I find it so irritating when people ask me about a modern counterpart to Sassy, like they expect us to spend the rest of our careers trying to create that."
26 year-old Chicago writer Claire Zulkey mmhm I think I've seen her blog maybe book rvws on it?, a Jane subscriber for three years (and, it should be noted, not burdened with Sassy baggage), recently decided to let her subscription lapse. Sometime after the re-design last fall she noticed that the worst of Jane was starting to get the best of Jane. "The mixed messages got too strong: they're snarky about celebrities but also snarky about celebrity snarkiness," she says of a magazine that gives the gauche Pamela Anderson a column but chastises former cover girl Brittany Murphy for posing for Maxim, or preaches a DIY ethos but condemns knock-offs. "Jane has lost its identity, but it still has the cooler-than-you tone."
Pratt's diary entry for April 2005, titled "I Sure Can Pick 'Em", detailed what losers some of her former colleagues have turned out to be. She used the space to mock the former assistant who, at 34, is living with her parents in Michigan, and the writer who—laughably, Pratt implies—went on to write headlines like "How to Rope Him in With Five Simple Moves". This from a magazine that thinks a photo of Ashlee Simpson's hotel bathroom sink is a great back page. The rank bitchery of the letter served no other purpose than inflicting hurt and heralding the spirit of the magazine as officially rancid. April 2005 was also the first issue to feature the slashed price of $1.99, and it's no wonder. I had to face it: at some point Jane Pratt drank the Kool-Aid. The magazine consistently left me feeling defeated, remembering why I don't read women's magazines. I don't care how busy Jane Pratt is, and if I don't care about Jane, how can I care about Jane? I would not be back, though for research purposes I checked out the August issue at the library. Again Pratt's letter sets the obnoxious, exclusive tone: an "inside" look at magazine production that does little more than let cover subject Kelly Clarkson know that she was seventh choice, and that Pratt finds her "cheesy."
Back in Australia, Sandra Yates did not follow her protégée's post-Sassy career, and only saw the launch issue of Jane. "I'm not aware that it was meant to be anything other than a magazine about traditional young women's topics," she says. "I assumed that after the Sassy experience, Jane would have been perfectly justified in opting for something safer." Yates is realistic about the trade-off between advertising and editorial content that women's magazines generally have to make, but still baffled by the idea that fewer than 300 letters to Sassy's five biggest advertisers (part of a boycott spearheaded by Focus on the Family 's Dr James Dobson, whom, Yates notes, "has continued to prosper, and is very close to the President") brought the magazine to its knees in the space of a week.
Clearly, the advertising game is no joke, and perhaps it's better to ante up than fold completely; the problem is that most women's magazines try to double deal, using words like "aspirational" to justify the unrealistic, highly charged standards of beauty and lifestyle they set. Jane, because it held itself above that predictable sleight of hand, and because of its genuinely groundbreaking heritage, made itself a lightning rod for all of the women out there desperate for a magazine they could be proud of. We're used to throwing up our hands, just don't mistake it for a wave good-bye.
Michelle Orange is a Torontonian living in New York. Her writing has appeared in Salon, The Sun Magazine and McSweeney's, among others. good article. maybe esp stands out from the gawker tidbits I've been reading, since this is comparatively lengthy and substantive.
Jane has always given itself too much credit—touting its ability to address this legitimacy gap between men's and women's magazines and treat young women as more than mannequins with wallets—but never more than in the last year. In the three years between Sassy's demise and Jane's debut I relied on Bust magazine (that would be the voice of the new girl order), for smart, funny content written by women. It was no Sassy, but then I suppose I was no teenager, and in trying to find a magazine that struck that same balance between the self-involved and the self-serious I was bound to run into a few that skewed too far either way. I bought the t-shirt—I bought two—and then Jane finally arrived.
"People love to be super-critical of Jane," Christina Kelly says, "and a lot of the criticism is unrealistic, because it's a commercial magazine, and as a commercial magazine it pushes the limits as far as they can go." But... what about..."Sassy was an aberration," she sighs, wearily, "and we were allowed to exist for a short time..." I can hear the irritation in her voice, and in case there was any doubt, she tells me: "I find it so irritating when people ask me about a modern counterpart to Sassy, like they expect us to spend the rest of our careers trying to create that."
26 year-old Chicago writer Claire Zulkey mmhm I think I've seen her blog maybe book rvws on it?, a Jane subscriber for three years (and, it should be noted, not burdened with Sassy baggage), recently decided to let her subscription lapse. Sometime after the re-design last fall she noticed that the worst of Jane was starting to get the best of Jane. "The mixed messages got too strong: they're snarky about celebrities but also snarky about celebrity snarkiness," she says of a magazine that gives the gauche Pamela Anderson a column but chastises former cover girl Brittany Murphy for posing for Maxim, or preaches a DIY ethos but condemns knock-offs. "Jane has lost its identity, but it still has the cooler-than-you tone."
Pratt's diary entry for April 2005, titled "I Sure Can Pick 'Em", detailed what losers some of her former colleagues have turned out to be. She used the space to mock the former assistant who, at 34, is living with her parents in Michigan, and the writer who—laughably, Pratt implies—went on to write headlines like "How to Rope Him in With Five Simple Moves". This from a magazine that thinks a photo of Ashlee Simpson's hotel bathroom sink is a great back page. The rank bitchery of the letter served no other purpose than inflicting hurt and heralding the spirit of the magazine as officially rancid. April 2005 was also the first issue to feature the slashed price of $1.99, and it's no wonder. I had to face it: at some point Jane Pratt drank the Kool-Aid. The magazine consistently left me feeling defeated, remembering why I don't read women's magazines. I don't care how busy Jane Pratt is, and if I don't care about Jane, how can I care about Jane? I would not be back, though for research purposes I checked out the August issue at the library. Again Pratt's letter sets the obnoxious, exclusive tone: an "inside" look at magazine production that does little more than let cover subject Kelly Clarkson know that she was seventh choice, and that Pratt finds her "cheesy."
Back in Australia, Sandra Yates did not follow her protégée's post-Sassy career, and only saw the launch issue of Jane. "I'm not aware that it was meant to be anything other than a magazine about traditional young women's topics," she says. "I assumed that after the Sassy experience, Jane would have been perfectly justified in opting for something safer." Yates is realistic about the trade-off between advertising and editorial content that women's magazines generally have to make, but still baffled by the idea that fewer than 300 letters to Sassy's five biggest advertisers (part of a boycott spearheaded by Focus on the Family 's Dr James Dobson, whom, Yates notes, "has continued to prosper, and is very close to the President") brought the magazine to its knees in the space of a week.
Clearly, the advertising game is no joke, and perhaps it's better to ante up than fold completely; the problem is that most women's magazines try to double deal, using words like "aspirational" to justify the unrealistic, highly charged standards of beauty and lifestyle they set. Jane, because it held itself above that predictable sleight of hand, and because of its genuinely groundbreaking heritage, made itself a lightning rod for all of the women out there desperate for a magazine they could be proud of. We're used to throwing up our hands, just don't mistake it for a wave good-bye.
Michelle Orange is a Torontonian living in New York. Her writing has appeared in Salon, The Sun Magazine and McSweeney's, among others. good article. maybe esp stands out from the gawker tidbits I've been reading, since this is comparatively lengthy and substantive.
Emily: Well first tell me what you thought of the book! As you know, I loved it.
Doree: I loved it too. All the behind-the-scenes stuff was great. They were pretty frank about Jane Pratt, I thought, without seeming catty.
Earlier: [April 4 2007] How Christina Kelly Changed Jane Pratt's Life:
[After the beginning of the book, Jane] is a background presence. Much more prominent is Christina Kelly, whose "What Now" and "Cute Band Alert" always seemed to nail the next actually hot new thing and gave the magazine its core of true credibility. And as Meltzer and Jesella have it, once the magazine began to seriously flounder and Jane was off hosting talk shows, Christina became editor in chief in all but name. "Jane was completely not around," Christina is quoted as saying. "I remember I was really not happy being the editor...."
When the magazine was sold so quickly that the staff wasn't even allowed to go back to their desks, Jane was already developing a new project at Time Inc. that would later, at Fairchild, become Jane. Her first hire there was Christina, so some sort of rapprochement must have been achieved. huh. Still, this version of the Sassy story doesn't reflect so well on the lady who's currently kicking off her third act.
cmmts:
-i'll pick it up in the store to see what the "Lucky." ladies have to say. in that magazine andrea still seems cool; kim france comes off a bit like a chainsmoking basketcase. this is a reader's observation only.
-@de wolfe: I concur in the judgment, Kim France does come off like a meth-fueled greenstick fracture.
Does anyone else remember - after the Fall of Sassy - that month when Mademoiselle took a left-hand turn into darkness? It always sucked in comparison to Sassy, sure, but one month it was bearable ("Dresses for Every Shape" and "Abortion: a Debate") and the next month it was fascistic assholery ("Ralf Your Lunch Up Now, You Porcine Monstrosity" and "Poor People Need More Lipstick."
Doree: I loved it too. All the behind-the-scenes stuff was great. They were pretty frank about Jane Pratt, I thought, without seeming catty.
Earlier: [April 4 2007] How Christina Kelly Changed Jane Pratt's Life:
[After the beginning of the book, Jane] is a background presence. Much more prominent is Christina Kelly, whose "What Now" and "Cute Band Alert" always seemed to nail the next actually hot new thing and gave the magazine its core of true credibility. And as Meltzer and Jesella have it, once the magazine began to seriously flounder and Jane was off hosting talk shows, Christina became editor in chief in all but name. "Jane was completely not around," Christina is quoted as saying. "I remember I was really not happy being the editor...."
When the magazine was sold so quickly that the staff wasn't even allowed to go back to their desks, Jane was already developing a new project at Time Inc. that would later, at Fairchild, become Jane. Her first hire there was Christina, so some sort of rapprochement must have been achieved. huh. Still, this version of the Sassy story doesn't reflect so well on the lady who's currently kicking off her third act.
cmmts:
-i'll pick it up in the store to see what the "Lucky." ladies have to say. in that magazine andrea still seems cool; kim france comes off a bit like a chainsmoking basketcase. this is a reader's observation only.
-@de wolfe: I concur in the judgment, Kim France does come off like a meth-fueled greenstick fracture.
Does anyone else remember - after the Fall of Sassy - that month when Mademoiselle took a left-hand turn into darkness? It always sucked in comparison to Sassy, sure, but one month it was bearable ("Dresses for Every Shape" and "Abortion: a Debate") and the next month it was fascistic assholery ("Ralf Your Lunch Up Now, You Porcine Monstrosity" and "Poor People Need More Lipstick."
'How Sassy Changed My Life' Book Party - Gawker April 26 2007:
Emily & Doree are Gawker writers, I guess.**
and Atoosa is Atoosa Rubenstein who I had not heard of. youngest ever editor of Seventeen. and she was an intern at Sassy and is quoted in the book about how she was not the cool kind of dorky girl that Sassy was for.
Doree: She reminds me of that Lily Tomlin character. The little girl in the big chair.
Emily: Whoa! That is so dead on. I actually had to ask her to move when I was fishing my umbrella out of the pile by the door as I was leaving! I did not say, "Hi Atoosa, I'm sorry about being a part of the negative media. We kid because we love. Can you move so I can grab my umbrella?" But I SO should have.
Doree: I did not see her talking to Christina Kelly.
Emily: Thing is, she's very intimidating! I think being 7 feet tall is part of it.
Doree: But she was wearing a little girl dress! It's like she's playing dress up! Whenever she speaks in public she likes to tell the story of how she finally got to intern at Sassy.
Doree:It's like, she was rejected by the popular cheerleaders and the popular outcasts.
Emily: Her preferred narrative is "I was a teen dork, and not the cool kind."
Doree: Yeah. i was actually thinking, again, because I think about this a lot, how different my high school experience would've been with the internet. And Sassy was the perfect pre-internet magazine. And maybe that is what Atoosa is trying to do—recreate Sassy online. But it's not going to work! Heh.
Emily: It's not. But why isn't it?
Doree:There's something off about her sensibility
Emily: Exactly. And it's sad, because recreating a Sassylike thing online is actually a GREAT idea. (An idea that every woman in that room last night has probably spent some time seriously contemplating, I'd wager.) haven't people already tried to make a website central for young girls? I read a dot com start-up book (seems like a genre) about one for girls, how there were all the staff & the offices & the parties & no actual site yet...
Doree: Can we discuss Jane Pratt more fully? I felt like she was this specter.
Emily: She's a symbol of so many things. And the biggest revelation of the book, for me, was the confirmation what I'd heard for years—that her knack was for being a figurehead, and for putting wheels in motion—not so much for day-to-day running a magazine.
She's also a symbol of being very successful very young, and what a double-edged sword that can be. I think maybe that is one of the reasons why there's so much schadenfreude directed her way. huh, is there?
All these women (totally projecting, BTW!) grew up thinking, "I want to be the editor in chief of a national magazine when I'm 24!"
Doree: Yes. That. Also Karen Catchpole was TWENTY?
Emily: College = WAY overrated.
Doree: Oh, the only thing I wish the book had was PHOTOS. Why no photos? Or cover scans?
Emily: Faber & Faber. I mean, it's a book with a tight budget, it's for a niche audience.
Doree: Yeah yeah. Still! I would've loved some photos of the office.
Emily: I'm just glad it got published! I remember the editorial meeting when it was out on submission. Someone said, "Who would buy this book?" And I was like, "UM ME I WOULD BUY TWENTY."
Doree: Haha, seriously. But I think it will do OK. hca concluded will be popular bcs I was buying our stocked copy and Larissa was asking for it. (and already 1 allocated s.o., so okay it will sell. shld we display it? the current undergrads though probably too young - say seniors age 22 so born in 1985? were age 3 during first year when best.
Emily: Especially after I buy twenty! I'm a woman of my word.
**yes. frontpage sidebar:
Eat The Press | Choire Sicha Returns To The Gawker Fold, Leaving The Observer | The Huffington Post
Choire Sicha is leaving the New York Observer to become Lead Editor at Gawker.com — returning to the company he left two years ago for the Observer.
So, what does the new job have that the old job doesn't — something that the old job was supposed to offer when it was the new job that got him to leave the old job which is now his new job?
We asked Sicha to clarify. "Working [at the Observer] is awesome. I recommend it to everyone," he told us in an instant-message exchange. "I was coming up on two years, and I felt the need for a change. It's also true that I was never in love with being tied to an office... Did you know that newspapers are non-smoking now?" Sicha denied that the move could be taken as a sign of things deteriorating at the Observer in the wake of its takeover by Jared Kushner, which, it has been quietly rumored, has led to some unhappiness on the part of the staff. Said Sicha: "It could be equally taken as a sign of things about to deteriorate at Gawker."
Sicha will re-up at Gawker beginning in early February, working with current editors Alex Balk and Emily Gould plus associate editor Doree Shafrir.
Emily & Doree are Gawker writers, I guess.**
and Atoosa is Atoosa Rubenstein who I had not heard of. youngest ever editor of Seventeen. and she was an intern at Sassy and is quoted in the book about how she was not the cool kind of dorky girl that Sassy was for.
Doree: She reminds me of that Lily Tomlin character. The little girl in the big chair.
Emily: Whoa! That is so dead on. I actually had to ask her to move when I was fishing my umbrella out of the pile by the door as I was leaving! I did not say, "Hi Atoosa, I'm sorry about being a part of the negative media. We kid because we love. Can you move so I can grab my umbrella?" But I SO should have.
Doree: I did not see her talking to Christina Kelly.
Emily: Thing is, she's very intimidating! I think being 7 feet tall is part of it.
Doree: But she was wearing a little girl dress! It's like she's playing dress up! Whenever she speaks in public she likes to tell the story of how she finally got to intern at Sassy.
Doree:It's like, she was rejected by the popular cheerleaders and the popular outcasts.
Emily: Her preferred narrative is "I was a teen dork, and not the cool kind."
Doree: Yeah. i was actually thinking, again, because I think about this a lot, how different my high school experience would've been with the internet. And Sassy was the perfect pre-internet magazine. And maybe that is what Atoosa is trying to do—recreate Sassy online. But it's not going to work! Heh.
Emily: It's not. But why isn't it?
Doree:There's something off about her sensibility
Emily: Exactly. And it's sad, because recreating a Sassylike thing online is actually a GREAT idea. (An idea that every woman in that room last night has probably spent some time seriously contemplating, I'd wager.) haven't people already tried to make a website central for young girls? I read a dot com start-up book (seems like a genre) about one for girls, how there were all the staff & the offices & the parties & no actual site yet...
Doree: Can we discuss Jane Pratt more fully? I felt like she was this specter.
Emily: She's a symbol of so many things. And the biggest revelation of the book, for me, was the confirmation what I'd heard for years—that her knack was for being a figurehead, and for putting wheels in motion—not so much for day-to-day running a magazine.
She's also a symbol of being very successful very young, and what a double-edged sword that can be. I think maybe that is one of the reasons why there's so much schadenfreude directed her way. huh, is there?
All these women (totally projecting, BTW!) grew up thinking, "I want to be the editor in chief of a national magazine when I'm 24!"
Doree: Yes. That. Also Karen Catchpole was TWENTY?
Emily: College = WAY overrated.
Doree: Oh, the only thing I wish the book had was PHOTOS. Why no photos? Or cover scans?
Emily: Faber & Faber. I mean, it's a book with a tight budget, it's for a niche audience.
Doree: Yeah yeah. Still! I would've loved some photos of the office.
Emily: I'm just glad it got published! I remember the editorial meeting when it was out on submission. Someone said, "Who would buy this book?" And I was like, "UM ME I WOULD BUY TWENTY."
Doree: Haha, seriously. But I think it will do OK. hca concluded will be popular bcs I was buying our stocked copy and Larissa was asking for it. (and already 1 allocated s.o., so okay it will sell. shld we display it? the current undergrads though probably too young - say seniors age 22 so born in 1985? were age 3 during first year when best.
Emily: Especially after I buy twenty! I'm a woman of my word.
**yes. frontpage sidebar:
- Editor: Emily Gould
- Associate Editor: Doree Shafrir
- Managing Editor: Choire Sicha
Eat The Press | Choire Sicha Returns To The Gawker Fold, Leaving The Observer | The Huffington Post
Choire Sicha is leaving the New York Observer to become Lead Editor at Gawker.com — returning to the company he left two years ago for the Observer.
So, what does the new job have that the old job doesn't — something that the old job was supposed to offer when it was the new job that got him to leave the old job which is now his new job?
We asked Sicha to clarify. "Working [at the Observer] is awesome. I recommend it to everyone," he told us in an instant-message exchange. "I was coming up on two years, and I felt the need for a change. It's also true that I was never in love with being tied to an office... Did you know that newspapers are non-smoking now?" Sicha denied that the move could be taken as a sign of things deteriorating at the Observer in the wake of its takeover by Jared Kushner, which, it has been quietly rumored, has led to some unhappiness on the part of the staff. Said Sicha: "It could be equally taken as a sign of things about to deteriorate at Gawker."
Sicha will re-up at Gawker beginning in early February, working with current editors Alex Balk and Emily Gould plus associate editor Doree Shafrir.
JANE Guide to Breast Health: Slideshows: janemag.com: Seventy-five percent of women say they are unhappy with their breasts.That might be because we don't often get to see what natural breasts look like, and are instead bombarded with false images of 'perfection' that leave us feeling bad about ourselves. That's unacceptable. So we found 23 women—of all shapes and sizes—to pose topless and show the world that we're all perfect.
cool.
cool.
Girls Just Want to Have Fun (1985):
-for once in this genre, the parents are portrayed as neither monsters nor morons, which was very refreshing at the time. yeah sjp's dad though strict is likeable, as in scene where he knocks at her door and asks for status report on homework. and I like jeff's dad a lot, like in scene where little sister mocks him, mouthing his words "you have to have a skill" (same scene where jeff says "my little sister dances with doorknobs" -"just practising for when I finally get asked to dance." shannon doherty really is fun here.
and Helen Hunt: fantastic. every line turns great as she says it. "He's a guy & he's alive, what's not to like?" Janey: he's just ugh. you know: ugh. "I like those qualities in a guy."
and now - "leave it to me" when parents know Janey was not at choir - rushes her in "okay kiddo you're home, you're alive. ..she over-did it on the uneven bars, practically spun to death. I'm not kidding, I had to rip her hands from the bar.."
early on, on the school bus - "what's wrong? ... oh I know, you're going to miss the beginning of Dance TV." it's okay I'm used to missing things.
"well get over it." Helen Hunt is so great saying that.
...
really this movie is good.
not even dumb at all, twenty-two years later. well, the mean girl is over-the-top sure. but otherwise all the characters are realistic enough.
strict dad at the studio: she is good isn't she?
little brother watching the show on tv: Janie looks fantastic! mother: she sure does.
earlier, mother to dad: this reminds me of when we used to dance.
and the best is jeff's dad at the bar - that's my kid on tv! and so proud when he wins. and his friends pour beer on him.
and cute shannon doherty all awestruck when her brother's friend - funny cutiepie Jonathan Silverman - kisses her as part of his excited reaction to janey & jeff winning
Girls Just Want to Have Fun (1985) - IMDb user comments:
-Girls Just Want to Have Fun is the ultimate movie of the 80s. I was 8 years old me too when this came out and my friends and I would hold our own Dance TV, of course everyone wanted to be Janey but I wanted to be Helen Hunt's character Lynne.
Even though Sarah Jessica Parker had the title role and the hunky Lee Montgomery as her dance partner and boyfriend, this film belonged to Helen Hunt. She was absolutely wonderful as the best friend who helped Janey with her dream of being on Dance TV.
yeah the character of Lynne is a superstar.
-My favorite songs from the movie are Dancing In Heaven, Technique, and I Can Fly.
"Dancing in Heaven, I never thought - I'd ever get my feet this far" dance contest - final dance off?
"I Can Fly! now I'm stronger than ever" - montage jeff & janey practicing in the park (I think)
did-do I own this soundtrack? I sure know the songs. maybe I recorded them by holding a boombox up to the tv. I know I did that with Grease II.
- I think that this movie is great!! The first time that I saw it was in the 80's and the music was fantastic and as a girl Janie and Lynne were so easy to relate to. Every little girl in the 80's wished that she could dance like Janie Glenn!!
- It's such a feelgood movie. It makes you want to dance. Sarah and Helen are great in this movie. And I think Sarah did alot of her own stunts because she was doing gymnastics at the time. The dancing is great and the music is pure 80's fun.
-for once in this genre, the parents are portrayed as neither monsters nor morons, which was very refreshing at the time. yeah sjp's dad though strict is likeable, as in scene where he knocks at her door and asks for status report on homework. and I like jeff's dad a lot, like in scene where little sister mocks him, mouthing his words "you have to have a skill" (same scene where jeff says "my little sister dances with doorknobs" -"just practising for when I finally get asked to dance." shannon doherty really is fun here.
and Helen Hunt: fantastic. every line turns great as she says it. "He's a guy & he's alive, what's not to like?" Janey: he's just ugh. you know: ugh. "I like those qualities in a guy."
and now - "leave it to me" when parents know Janey was not at choir - rushes her in "okay kiddo you're home, you're alive. ..she over-did it on the uneven bars, practically spun to death. I'm not kidding, I had to rip her hands from the bar.."
early on, on the school bus - "what's wrong? ... oh I know, you're going to miss the beginning of Dance TV." it's okay I'm used to missing things.
"well get over it." Helen Hunt is so great saying that.
...
really this movie is good.
not even dumb at all, twenty-two years later. well, the mean girl is over-the-top sure. but otherwise all the characters are realistic enough.
strict dad at the studio: she is good isn't she?
little brother watching the show on tv: Janie looks fantastic! mother: she sure does.
earlier, mother to dad: this reminds me of when we used to dance.
and the best is jeff's dad at the bar - that's my kid on tv! and so proud when he wins. and his friends pour beer on him.
and cute shannon doherty all awestruck when her brother's friend - funny cutiepie Jonathan Silverman - kisses her as part of his excited reaction to janey & jeff winning
Girls Just Want to Have Fun (1985) - IMDb user comments:
-Girls Just Want to Have Fun is the ultimate movie of the 80s. I was 8 years old me too when this came out and my friends and I would hold our own Dance TV, of course everyone wanted to be Janey but I wanted to be Helen Hunt's character Lynne.
Even though Sarah Jessica Parker had the title role and the hunky Lee Montgomery as her dance partner and boyfriend, this film belonged to Helen Hunt. She was absolutely wonderful as the best friend who helped Janey with her dream of being on Dance TV.
yeah the character of Lynne is a superstar.
-My favorite songs from the movie are Dancing In Heaven, Technique, and I Can Fly.
"Dancing in Heaven, I never thought - I'd ever get my feet this far" dance contest - final dance off?
"I Can Fly! now I'm stronger than ever" - montage jeff & janey practicing in the park (I think)
did-do I own this soundtrack? I sure know the songs. maybe I recorded them by holding a boombox up to the tv. I know I did that with Grease II.
- I think that this movie is great!! The first time that I saw it was in the 80's and the music was fantastic and as a girl Janie and Lynne were so easy to relate to. Every little girl in the 80's wished that she could dance like Janie Glenn!!
- It's such a feelgood movie. It makes you want to dance. Sarah and Helen are great in this movie. And I think Sarah did alot of her own stunts because she was doing gymnastics at the time. The dancing is great and the music is pure 80's fun.
Thursday, April 26, 2007
Grey's Anatomy 03-21: "Desire" 2007.04.26 - TWoP Forums
I actually rather enjoyed this episode (can't point to why). not as dumb as usual. maybe it helps that I like the actress playing Alex's patient, who I think of as Alice, bcs know her as that character in Saved. which by the way is that going to return this summer? no. just looked it up - dlcs marked.
oh I know one reason this episode seemed okay, at end. I like the plot point that George might switch to another hospital, ~ realistic. or sth.
-It was good. Better than late.
-Poor Mark, the one time he didn't cheat, and Addi stepped-out on him but it was rather poignant that he went and lied about it. yeah. and why did Alex rebuff Addi at the end?
The MerDer relational diagnostic actually was pretty well done... I didn't feel the need to scream bullshit. yeah I guess. was thinking it was silly, he's been so into her and now "I came out here to be Chief"? but it was not so unbelievable
-I am shocked they even had that conversation, I was not expecting it until some type of blow up closer to the finale. The fact it happened so soon before then is interesting build up. re Derek & Meredith. yeah I guess that's another bit that seemed calm, more realistic than usual, less obviously about big drama heightening. ~ more down-to-earth.
-Derek - an ass, but I did feel for him in that last scene. him to her re how she didn't try to swim, she knows how but didn't. It is very hard to be in a relationship with a person who is seriously depressed. He doesn't want to go the rest of his life worrying about whether Meredith will give up, and having to be her crutch.
George/Izzie - they are starting to grow on me. I hate to admit it but they are.
- You know, I think that this was a really good episode tonight.
I actually rather enjoyed this episode (can't point to why). not as dumb as usual. maybe it helps that I like the actress playing Alex's patient, who I think of as Alice, bcs know her as that character in Saved. which by the way is that going to return this summer? no. just looked it up - dlcs marked.
oh I know one reason this episode seemed okay, at end. I like the plot point that George might switch to another hospital, ~ realistic. or sth.
-It was good. Better than late.
-Poor Mark, the one time he didn't cheat, and Addi stepped-out on him but it was rather poignant that he went and lied about it. yeah. and why did Alex rebuff Addi at the end?
The MerDer relational diagnostic actually was pretty well done... I didn't feel the need to scream bullshit. yeah I guess. was thinking it was silly, he's been so into her and now "I came out here to be Chief"? but it was not so unbelievable
-I am shocked they even had that conversation, I was not expecting it until some type of blow up closer to the finale. The fact it happened so soon before then is interesting build up. re Derek & Meredith. yeah I guess that's another bit that seemed calm, more realistic than usual, less obviously about big drama heightening. ~ more down-to-earth.
-Derek - an ass, but I did feel for him in that last scene. him to her re how she didn't try to swim, she knows how but didn't. It is very hard to be in a relationship with a person who is seriously depressed. He doesn't want to go the rest of his life worrying about whether Meredith will give up, and having to be her crutch.
George/Izzie - they are starting to grow on me. I hate to admit it but they are.
- You know, I think that this was a really good episode tonight.
Wednesday, April 25, 2007
Gilmore Girls 7-19: "It's Just Like Riding A Bike" 2007.04.24 - TWoP Forums p15:
-I just can't get over Paris' reaction to her Harvard acceptance letter. That was pure gold. Paris? Rocks hard.
p1:
-Paris Gellar needs her own spin-off. She's quite possibly my favorite character in all of television.
-Did anybody else notice the CONSTANT Wizard of Oz references?
Bike (wicked witch's bike)
Basket (basket with toto)
Lorelai's sleeves (dorothy's sleeves)
Glenda (apt. name; good witch)
"wizard" (guy who's gonna fix the dollhouse)
broken dollhouse (house falling on wicked witch) huh. this does seem like a lot. and Lorelai riding her bike was sort of like the withc ~ just because tall I guess, and sitting up straight. maybe the puffy sleeves too? black outfit.
Were there others? Was it intentional? Were they trying to subliminally send the ruby slipper "no place like home" message? As in feeling at home with Luke?
-I just can't get over Paris' reaction to her Harvard acceptance letter. That was pure gold. Paris? Rocks hard.
p1:
-Paris Gellar needs her own spin-off. She's quite possibly my favorite character in all of television.
-Did anybody else notice the CONSTANT Wizard of Oz references?
Bike (wicked witch's bike)
Basket (basket with toto)
Lorelai's sleeves (dorothy's sleeves)
Glenda (apt. name; good witch)
"wizard" (guy who's gonna fix the dollhouse)
broken dollhouse (house falling on wicked witch) huh. this does seem like a lot. and Lorelai riding her bike was sort of like the withc ~ just because tall I guess, and sitting up straight. maybe the puffy sleeves too? black outfit.
Were there others? Was it intentional? Were they trying to subliminally send the ruby slipper "no place like home" message? As in feeling at home with Luke?
of current int:
book:
End of I. - Stephen Dixon (take look at?)
How Sassy... (look at tonite)
~Holmes (bring back This Book Will Save... after maybe a little skimming tonite)
tv - read responses to last nite's shows:
Boston Legal - TWoP Forums
GilmoreGirls 7-19: "It's Just Like Riding A Bike" 2007.04.24 TWoP Forums
and (watched again in wee hours this morn)
House - Three Stories - twop thread for episode & original single thread (when aired)
also:"Emmy-nominated" script? so - what script won over it??
book:
End of I. - Stephen Dixon (take look at?)
How Sassy... (look at tonite)
~Holmes (bring back This Book Will Save... after maybe a little skimming tonite)
tv - read responses to last nite's shows:
Boston Legal - TWoP Forums
GilmoreGirls 7-19: "It's Just Like Riding A Bike" 2007.04.24 TWoP Forums
and (watched again in wee hours this morn)
House - Three Stories - twop thread for episode & original single thread (when aired)
also:"Emmy-nominated" script? so - what script won over it??
az- all editorial rvws: This Book Will Save Your Life -- A. M. Homes From Bookmarks Magazine:
Let's start with the good news for fans of A. M. Homes (Music for Torching; End of Alice;The Safety of Objects): it's not all bad. A few critics praised Homes's convincing characters, emotional immediacy, deadpan dialogue, and expert skewering of modern L.A. Unfortunately, negative reviews prevailed. The Washington Post sums up the sentiment: 'If you're as isolated and disconnected as Richard, you'll find the details here surprising and hilarious, but otherwise, it's yesterday's news.'
did I really read End of Alice, I think so, yes. not just conflating it with another book read ~ 1995, P&P, about an anorexix girl. not just.
Let's start with the good news for fans of A. M. Homes (Music for Torching; End of Alice;The Safety of Objects): it's not all bad. A few critics praised Homes's convincing characters, emotional immediacy, deadpan dialogue, and expert skewering of modern L.A. Unfortunately, negative reviews prevailed. The Washington Post sums up the sentiment: 'If you're as isolated and disconnected as Richard, you'll find the details here surprising and hilarious, but otherwise, it's yesterday's news.'
did I really read End of Alice, I think so, yes. not just conflating it with another book read ~ 1995, P&P, about an anorexix girl. not just.
House, M.D. quotes
House: Did I miss anything?
Dr. Chase: Kitchen sink? House:
Well, we could certainly give that...oh, you minx.
hehee. came to the page via search for that exchange.
and I enjoyed reading these, esp the ones I have not actually seen - pleasant to hear House's voice in my head ~ to recognize the quote as 'like him' to say...
House: [knocking on Dr. Wilson's door] I know you're in there. I can hear you caring.
Dr. Wilson: If you have the money then why did you need the loan?
House: I didn't. I just wanted to see if you'd give it to me. I've been borrowing increasing amounts ever since you lent me $40 a year ago. Ummm, a little experiment to see where you'd draw the line.
Dr. Wilson: You're...you're trying to objectively measure how much I value our friendship.
House: It's five grand – you got nothing to be ashamed of.
Dr. Wilson: Now, be a grown-up and either tell Mommy and Daddy you don't want to see them, or I'm picking you up at seven for dinner.
House: What do you mean? You just said...?
Dr. Wilson: I lied. I've been lying to you in increasing amounts ever since I told you you looked good unshaved a year ago. It's a little experiment, you know, to see where you'd draw the line.
Dr. Foreman: Why are you riding on me?
House: It's what I do. Has it gotten worse lately?
Dr. Foreman: Yeah. Seems to me.
House: Really? Well, that rules out the race thing. You were just as black last week.
Dr. Foreman: You figure that anybody that gives a crap about people in Africa must be full of it?
House: Yes. There's an evolutionary imperative why we give a crap about our family and friends. And there's an evolutionary imperative why we don't give a crap about anybody else. If we loved all people indiscriminately, we couldn't function.
Dr. Foreman: Hmmm. So, the great humanitarian's as selfish as the rest of us.
House: Just not as honest about it.
House: I assume "minimal at best" is your stiff upper lip British way of saying "no chance in hell"?
Dr. Chase: I'm Australian.
House: You put the Queen on your money. You're British.
House: You know how it is with nuns - take out their IUDs and they bounce right back.
House: Did I miss anything?
Dr. Chase: Kitchen sink? House:
Well, we could certainly give that...oh, you minx.
hehee. came to the page via search for that exchange.
and I enjoyed reading these, esp the ones I have not actually seen - pleasant to hear House's voice in my head ~ to recognize the quote as 'like him' to say...
House: [knocking on Dr. Wilson's door] I know you're in there. I can hear you caring.
Dr. Wilson: If you have the money then why did you need the loan?
House: I didn't. I just wanted to see if you'd give it to me. I've been borrowing increasing amounts ever since you lent me $40 a year ago. Ummm, a little experiment to see where you'd draw the line.
Dr. Wilson: You're...you're trying to objectively measure how much I value our friendship.
House: It's five grand – you got nothing to be ashamed of.
Dr. Wilson: Now, be a grown-up and either tell Mommy and Daddy you don't want to see them, or I'm picking you up at seven for dinner.
House: What do you mean? You just said...?
Dr. Wilson: I lied. I've been lying to you in increasing amounts ever since I told you you looked good unshaved a year ago. It's a little experiment, you know, to see where you'd draw the line.
Dr. Foreman: Why are you riding on me?
House: It's what I do. Has it gotten worse lately?
Dr. Foreman: Yeah. Seems to me.
House: Really? Well, that rules out the race thing. You were just as black last week.
Dr. Foreman: You figure that anybody that gives a crap about people in Africa must be full of it?
House: Yes. There's an evolutionary imperative why we give a crap about our family and friends. And there's an evolutionary imperative why we don't give a crap about anybody else. If we loved all people indiscriminately, we couldn't function.
Dr. Foreman: Hmmm. So, the great humanitarian's as selfish as the rest of us.
House: Just not as honest about it.
House: I assume "minimal at best" is your stiff upper lip British way of saying "no chance in hell"?
Dr. Chase: I'm Australian.
House: You put the Queen on your money. You're British.
House: You know how it is with nuns - take out their IUDs and they bounce right back.
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the totally reminds me of ...
You Can Count On Me Script at IMSDb:
Terry and Rudy are in a giggly tangled panicked heap at the
top of the stairs, shaking Rudy's arm and sleeve, frantically
trying to get the jacket off.
Sammy comes in. They freeze.
SAMMY
What is going on in here?
TERRY
Um -- We were just out doing some
star-gazing, and, uh, Rudy lost track
of the time. Which I totally warned
him about.
(To Rudy)
You are a bad kid.
Sunday, April 22, 2007
TelevisionWithoutPity recap - Three Stories - p11:
There's also the question of how long House has actually worked for the hospital, since this is supposed to take place five years ago and, in the first episode, Cuddy said that House had been avoiding Clinic duty for six years. Yet here, she doesn't appear to have a pre-established relationship with House. right I was wondering this. at the time he is not a Dr on staff at the hospital where he is being treated, or is he? dsn't seem like it.
...
He wants the blockage removed from his leg, even though it will cause all the dead tissue waste the built up behind to clot to be released into his blood system and possibly kill him. The advantage to this is that, providing he survives, his chances of recovering the full use of his leg are good. ? I don't remember that the chances were good. oh ok maybe the chances he will survive are not good but if he does he will probably have use of his leg.
Cuddy says that the post-operative pain will be incredible. House says he's aware of that, and that this is his choice.
There's also the question of how long House has actually worked for the hospital, since this is supposed to take place five years ago and, in the first episode, Cuddy said that House had been avoiding Clinic duty for six years. Yet here, she doesn't appear to have a pre-established relationship with House. right I was wondering this. at the time he is not a Dr on staff at the hospital where he is being treated, or is he? dsn't seem like it.
...
He wants the blockage removed from his leg, even though it will cause all the dead tissue waste the built up behind to clot to be released into his blood system and possibly kill him. The advantage to this is that, providing he survives, his chances of recovering the full use of his leg are good. ? I don't remember that the chances were good. oh ok maybe the chances he will survive are not good but if he does he will probably have use of his leg.
Cuddy says that the post-operative pain will be incredible. House says he's aware of that, and that this is his choice.
Television Without Pity recap - Kids - p9:
House returns to his office to find Wilson and his next interviewee waiting. He apologizes, saying he had to 'take a dump.' The interviewee is a sassy young thing who immediately replies that she's sure it's better to interview right after a dump than before it. House is thrown off a bit by the witty retort, and downs a few pills to steady himself as he asks Dr. Sass if she actually speaks four languages, or just wrote it on her résumé to look good. Dr. Sass sasses that she can swear in six. Wilson raises his eyebrows. House asks Dr. Sass why she's leaving her current job; did she fall in love with her boss, or did he fall in love with her? Wilson's eyebrows continue their ascent, and he mutters something about that being a reasonable question, since almost all fellowships end that way. Dr. Sass just says it was 'nothing like that,' and House immediately asks her if she's Jewish. Dr. Sass says she is indeed, and House's next question is whether or not what they say about Jewish foreplay is true. 'Uh-uh-uh -- ' says Wilson, who knows House better than anyone and still wasn't expecting him to ask a question as wildly inappropriate as that. But Dr. Sass will not be thrown! She says it's 'two hours of begging.' House says he heard it was four. 'I'm only half Jewish,' Dr. Sassenstein admits. Wilson just looks back and forth between the two, searching for the family resemblance that must be there as Dr. Sassenstein is obviously House's secret daughter.
(Dr Petra Gilmar with green high heels)
By the way, being able to identify a woman's Prada shoes from a distance of thirty feet is so gay that it's heterosexual again, so there is no hoyay in this scene.
House returns to his office to find Wilson and his next interviewee waiting. He apologizes, saying he had to 'take a dump.' The interviewee is a sassy young thing who immediately replies that she's sure it's better to interview right after a dump than before it. House is thrown off a bit by the witty retort, and downs a few pills to steady himself as he asks Dr. Sass if she actually speaks four languages, or just wrote it on her résumé to look good. Dr. Sass sasses that she can swear in six. Wilson raises his eyebrows. House asks Dr. Sass why she's leaving her current job; did she fall in love with her boss, or did he fall in love with her? Wilson's eyebrows continue their ascent, and he mutters something about that being a reasonable question, since almost all fellowships end that way. Dr. Sass just says it was 'nothing like that,' and House immediately asks her if she's Jewish. Dr. Sass says she is indeed, and House's next question is whether or not what they say about Jewish foreplay is true. 'Uh-uh-uh -- ' says Wilson, who knows House better than anyone and still wasn't expecting him to ask a question as wildly inappropriate as that. But Dr. Sass will not be thrown! She says it's 'two hours of begging.' House says he heard it was four. 'I'm only half Jewish,' Dr. Sassenstein admits. Wilson just looks back and forth between the two, searching for the family resemblance that must be there as Dr. Sassenstein is obviously House's secret daughter.
(Dr Petra Gilmar with green high heels)
By the way, being able to identify a woman's Prada shoes from a distance of thirty feet is so gay that it's heterosexual again, so there is no hoyay in this scene.
Saturday, April 21, 2007
Television Without Pity » House » [extra] The Garrett Lerner Interview co exec prdcr (who reads twop recaps) intrvwd by recapper Sara M
cool tht I remembered this... found my dlcs mark by tele-v + item, satisfying.
z0611.
_________________________________________________________
and, have been placing dlcs marks in the single twop thread for House during airing of season one:
Old House Thread - TWoP Forums p146
Mar 15, 2005 = epis "Control" - just saw aired as repeat - beginning of Vogler arc. business woman needs heart but bulimia wld exclude her. & House to Cameron: everyone likes you. C: do you? I need to know. H: No.
Old House Thread - TWoP Forums p249
Apr 12, 2005 = epis "Role Model" (1st on 3rd disc, ie 6 fr end of seasn1). patient is Senator. + House gives speech for Vogler. & C resigns
Old House Thread - TWoP Forums p311
May 3, 2005 = "Kids" = meningitis outbreak, 12yrld girl swimmer. + House interviews to fill C's spot. I liked the banter w intrvwee Dr. Petra Gilmar...
p312-But, but, I want to keep the green pointy shoes applicant. She's fun.
Old House Thread - TWoP Forums p372 (of 539 pages til June 9 when House got own forums) p372 = May 17, 2005 = airing of "Three Stories", so praise & discussn start here /why was he so resolute about his leg?
cool tht I remembered this... found my dlcs mark by tele-v + item, satisfying.
z0611.
_________________________________________________________
and, have been placing dlcs marks in the single twop thread for House during airing of season one:
Old House Thread - TWoP Forums p146
Mar 15, 2005 = epis "Control" - just saw aired as repeat - beginning of Vogler arc. business woman needs heart but bulimia wld exclude her. & House to Cameron: everyone likes you. C: do you? I need to know. H: No.
Old House Thread - TWoP Forums p249
Apr 12, 2005 = epis "Role Model" (1st on 3rd disc, ie 6 fr end of seasn1). patient is Senator. + House gives speech for Vogler. & C resigns
Old House Thread - TWoP Forums p311
May 3, 2005 = "Kids" = meningitis outbreak, 12yrld girl swimmer. + House interviews to fill C's spot. I liked the banter w intrvwee Dr. Petra Gilmar...
p312-But, but, I want to keep the green pointy shoes applicant. She's fun.
Old House Thread - TWoP Forums p372 (of 539 pages til June 9 when House got own forums) p372 = May 17, 2005 = airing of "Three Stories", so praise & discussn start here /why was he so resolute about his leg?
- Role Model
- Babies & Bathwater
- Kids
- Love Hurts
- Three Stories
- Honeymoon watched these final two of the season last nite
Old House Thread - TWoP Forums p249
= Apr 12, 2005 = original airdate of episode "Role Model" (1st on 3rd disc, ie 6 fr end of season 1). patient is Senator. House gives speech for Vogler.
when she knocks he is playing the piano...
--Got to see a little of Hugh Laurie's musical talent, yay! He was playing, in a minor key, High Hopes. You know, the one about the ant and the rubber tree plant. Heh.
--That last scene with House and Cameron was just so sad. She resigned and offer her hand and he couldn't even look at her. That part was just heartbreaking. Good job on both their parts.
--The ending was amazing. The way he just couldn't look at her. If I didn't know House, it would've looked like he was almost crying..
= Apr 12, 2005 = original airdate of episode "Role Model" (1st on 3rd disc, ie 6 fr end of season 1). patient is Senator. House gives speech for Vogler.
- I don't do speeches. I'm shy.
- ...especially since he's a politician, his brain's all twisted.
- Afternoon delight - she loves the hard wood. (as he twirls his cane)
- They don't call it the White House for the paint job.
when she knocks he is playing the piano...
--Got to see a little of Hugh Laurie's musical talent, yay! He was playing, in a minor key, High Hopes. You know, the one about the ant and the rubber tree plant. Heh.
--That last scene with House and Cameron was just so sad. She resigned and offer her hand and he couldn't even look at her. That part was just heartbreaking. Good job on both their parts.
--The ending was amazing. The way he just couldn't look at her. If I didn't know House, it would've looked like he was almost crying..
- Cameron: I figured everything you do, you do it to help people. But I was wrong. You do it because it's right.
1-21: "Three Stories" 2005.05.17 - TWoP Forums:
-This is easily my favorite episode of the season because of the way it has all the parts of the typical formulaic House episode, but refuses to lay them down in anything resembling a formulaic way. The details of this episode rock, from the Ducklings-in-the-Making to the way the auditorium kept getting full, bit by bit... I liked that very much. noticed it after Cameron in doorway answered his question - House: it's not your case. Cameron: nothing wrong with a consult.
-I'll go you one better and say that this is easiest one of the best hours of television I've ever seen. And I'm old. And I watch a lot of television.
-For me too. I've always loved this series - they had me at "Brain tumor, she’s gonna die, boring" [heh - pilot episode (I just read opening bit of twop recap of it) - House's very first scene] - but I didn't know it had this in it. An absolutely stunning episode, from the writing to directing to acting to editing to ... everything. It was hilarious and heartbreaking, thought-provoking and nuanced, and I loved the surreal, non-linear structure that thumbed its nose at all of us who thought the show was defiantly formulaic.
-Usually I have to do something else while I watch TV, like surf the net, or the dishes - this episode had me captivated.
-One of the neatest things about my experience of watching this episode is how closely it mirrored the actual events in the show. I was cleaning the kitchen and half-listening/half-watching, and as the show progressed it started taking up more and more of my attention until by the end (with the "it was House" reveal) I was standing in the living room. I love how it was a subversion and subtle parody of the normal formulaic structure.
And I just want to second (or third) the person that said one of the best TV episodes I've ever seen.
yeah. this episode got me thinking to own the House season 1 dvd. which is not really a want, but it's what I think when watching something this good - I decide I 'want' to own it. it's a way of commending, or so. anyway it certainly would be fine to own, watchable w m & d at pasadena, but no rush. ditto Kidnapped. - maybe less worth it than House. but a fine long suspense movie starring jeremy sisto as a v likeable character, not bad. FridayNightLights, that I will actually get I think. mom wld love watching it. dad wldn't mind. and it's really a lovely view of life, as believably good.
-This is easily my favorite episode of the season because of the way it has all the parts of the typical formulaic House episode, but refuses to lay them down in anything resembling a formulaic way. The details of this episode rock, from the Ducklings-in-the-Making to the way the auditorium kept getting full, bit by bit... I liked that very much. noticed it after Cameron in doorway answered his question - House: it's not your case. Cameron: nothing wrong with a consult.
-I'll go you one better and say that this is easiest one of the best hours of television I've ever seen. And I'm old. And I watch a lot of television.
-For me too. I've always loved this series - they had me at "Brain tumor, she’s gonna die, boring" [heh - pilot episode (I just read opening bit of twop recap of it) - House's very first scene] - but I didn't know it had this in it. An absolutely stunning episode, from the writing to directing to acting to editing to ... everything. It was hilarious and heartbreaking, thought-provoking and nuanced, and I loved the surreal, non-linear structure that thumbed its nose at all of us who thought the show was defiantly formulaic.
-Usually I have to do something else while I watch TV, like surf the net, or the dishes - this episode had me captivated.
-One of the neatest things about my experience of watching this episode is how closely it mirrored the actual events in the show. I was cleaning the kitchen and half-listening/half-watching, and as the show progressed it started taking up more and more of my attention until by the end (with the "it was House" reveal) I was standing in the living room. I love how it was a subversion and subtle parody of the normal formulaic structure.
And I just want to second (or third) the person that said one of the best TV episodes I've ever seen.
yeah. this episode got me thinking to own the House season 1 dvd. which is not really a want, but it's what I think when watching something this good - I decide I 'want' to own it. it's a way of commending, or so. anyway it certainly would be fine to own, watchable w m & d at pasadena, but no rush. ditto Kidnapped. - maybe less worth it than House. but a fine long suspense movie starring jeremy sisto as a v likeable character, not bad. FridayNightLights, that I will actually get I think. mom wld love watching it. dad wldn't mind. and it's really a lovely view of life, as believably good.
“Seeing is of course very much a matter of verbalization. Unless I call my attention to what passes before my eyes, I simply won’t see…. It’s all a matter of keeping my eyes open.”
- Annie Dillard
huh I don't think I usually relate to Dillard but there it is.
in context does she mean "Seeing is..." for her? I'm pretty sure it is *not* "very much a matter of verbalization" for everyone. for most people, I think, the verbalization is after the seeing. but I also really do not see what's there unless I call attention to to what's before my eyes by articulating it.
“The journal is the ideal place of refuge for the inner self because it constitutes a counterworld: a world to balance the other.”
- Joyce Carol Oates
oh I was misunderstanding that. I was liking the thought that when one takes notes, can experience it as a counter to oneself, as a talking to and with.
but she means, doesnt she, an inner world to balance the outer.
I was interested in a balancing of yourself ~ by yourself, when writing notes.
better name for the activity I mean? than "notes". hmm. am not thinking of one...
quotes in post Praise to journal keepers: by journal keepers, for journal keepers at Frederick Giasson’s Weblog: I keep many journals: Blogs, Moleskine notebooks, writings and highlightings in books. All these journals have their place; each try to cope with a specific task; all are priceless.
- Annie Dillard
huh I don't think I usually relate to Dillard but there it is.
in context does she mean "Seeing is..." for her? I'm pretty sure it is *not* "very much a matter of verbalization" for everyone. for most people, I think, the verbalization is after the seeing. but I also really do not see what's there unless I call attention to to what's before my eyes by articulating it.
“The journal is the ideal place of refuge for the inner self because it constitutes a counterworld: a world to balance the other.”
- Joyce Carol Oates
oh I was misunderstanding that. I was liking the thought that when one takes notes, can experience it as a counter to oneself, as a talking to and with.
but she means, doesnt she, an inner world to balance the outer.
I was interested in a balancing of yourself ~ by yourself, when writing notes.
better name for the activity I mean? than "notes". hmm. am not thinking of one...
quotes in post Praise to journal keepers: by journal keepers, for journal keepers at Frederick Giasson’s Weblog: I keep many journals: Blogs, Moleskine notebooks, writings and highlightings in books. All these journals have their place; each try to cope with a specific task; all are priceless.
Friday, April 20, 2007
attending again to comments by jazzmasterson - his dlcs linklog:
"The ecstasy of influence: A plagiarism" by Jonathan Lethem (Harper's Magazine)
-Fascinating exploration of creativity and the ways in wh previous work gets entangled in the new. will be interesting to see how full-text search and the ease of copying & remixing plays out. I had this marked a but the int to me is more about this comment -- ease (with hypertext) of copying & remixing, exactly (when quoting blurs with when not ~ here I mostly use italics for when not but ~ distinction not sharp to me ) -- than with Lethem's.
huh actually I alrdy did note that comment in first jazzm post and also this one that I want to again remind me of:
if:book: blogging restructures consciousness?
-This is alongside some of the ideas I've been beating around; that the act of writing and journaling, in particular, actually affects your awareness...
well the mode does. cut - paste. alt-backspace (undo). esp that one always interests me, since I believe I find myself expecting to be able to execute an Undo by thought alone of something just done ~ commuting (the expectation of) that capability from typing to ~ other physical movements huh. eg I put something over there then prefer that I had not, and I think: ok - Undo!
just now looked at his 3 pgmrks tagged @blogme including:
Frédérick Giasson's Weblog - Analog Blog - Organize your Moleskine notebook as a blog
-Blogs are modern "commonplace book"s yes yes for me that is v much what is - a hypetext note common book quotations with scribbles --a way to make sense of the world to yourself. Frederick here uses the moleskine to take lessons from the blogs and reapply them to paper. okay let's see.
hmm that link not getting me there. here go-
Analog Blog - Organize your Moleskine notebook as a blog at Frederick Giasson’s Weblog
Published January 23rd, 2005 in Arts, Notetaking and Writing.
top/bttm works for me (rather than quadrants) but ok I see: when he says he is numbering not every page but only the right-hand pages, he does not mean he is skipping numbers: he is treating each two-page-spread as a single page with one number, four quadrants.
trackback to Analogue Journal -- murky.org : A lovely idea about using web-based techniques in an analogue world.
and follow-up On Analog Blog reactions at Frederick Giasson’s Weblog: I also want to answer to this blogger (thank for your post, it was relevant):“This strikes me as obviously silly. A blog is, and to be a blog pretty much has to be, a hypertext document displayed on a computer with an internet connection.."Who says that a link, is necessary an HTML hyperlink on internet? A link is basically a relation between two things. It can be two websites, but it can also be two train stations, two ideas...
"The ecstasy of influence: A plagiarism" by Jonathan Lethem (Harper's Magazine)
-Fascinating exploration of creativity and the ways in wh previous work gets entangled in the new. will be interesting to see how full-text search and the ease of copying & remixing plays out. I had this marked a but the int to me is more about this comment -- ease (with hypertext) of copying & remixing, exactly (when quoting blurs with when not ~ here I mostly use italics for when not but ~ distinction not sharp to me ) -- than with Lethem's.
huh actually I alrdy did note that comment in first jazzm post and also this one that I want to again remind me of:
if:book: blogging restructures consciousness?
-This is alongside some of the ideas I've been beating around; that the act of writing and journaling, in particular, actually affects your awareness...
well the mode does. cut - paste. alt-backspace (undo). esp that one always interests me, since I believe I find myself expecting to be able to execute an Undo by thought alone of something just done ~ commuting (the expectation of) that capability from typing to ~ other physical movements huh. eg I put something over there then prefer that I had not, and I think: ok - Undo!
just now looked at his 3 pgmrks tagged @blogme including:
Frédérick Giasson's Weblog - Analog Blog - Organize your Moleskine notebook as a blog
-Blogs are modern "commonplace book"s yes yes for me that is v much what is - a hypetext note common book quotations with scribbles --a way to make sense of the world to yourself. Frederick here uses the moleskine to take lessons from the blogs and reapply them to paper. okay let's see.
hmm that link not getting me there. here go-
Analog Blog - Organize your Moleskine notebook as a blog at Frederick Giasson’s Weblog
Published January 23rd, 2005 in Arts, Notetaking and Writing.
- A comment system is implemented for each post. (In our case, it will be your own comments on past posts.) he comments on back pages, working in so that will not run out of space for 'post' pages or for 'comment pages' one before the other. mmm will run out mutually ~
- The posts on the blog are usually classified in categories. plus metadata written on upper rate and 'permalinks' in form of [book #: page #] which assumes you have multiple moleskine books
- plus also upper left [date : location] This is probably one of the most important feature. With it, you'll be able to track the evolution of your thoughts. After you can optionally add the location where you write the post. It's a way to help you remember the circumstances of your writing. The mind work this way; with a simple smell, image or word you can remember a whole situation. I agree with that.
top/bttm works for me (rather than quadrants) but ok I see: when he says he is numbering not every page but only the right-hand pages, he does not mean he is skipping numbers: he is treating each two-page-spread as a single page with one number, four quadrants.
trackback to Analogue Journal -- murky.org : A lovely idea about using web-based techniques in an analogue world.
and follow-up On Analog Blog reactions at Frederick Giasson’s Weblog: I also want to answer to this blogger (thank for your post, it was relevant):“This strikes me as obviously silly. A blog is, and to be a blog pretty much has to be, a hypertext document displayed on a computer with an internet connection.."Who says that a link, is necessary an HTML hyperlink on internet? A link is basically a relation between two things. It can be two websites, but it can also be two train stations, two ideas...
DVD Verdict Review - Dharma And Greg: Season One:
My other problem with this series is that it's set in the wrong era. If the show had been made in the late sixties with Goldie Hawn in the lead role, it would have been a grand slam winner. huh, int re era but I nvr much have enjoyed goldiehawn... But set in the late nineties it just doesn't ring true. Let's look at the lifestyle she and her parents lead…they're vegetarians. Oh boy, is that comedy fodder! They're environmentally conscious. Hysterical! And her father has no love for the government—join the club. heh. ok.
Actually, Dharma comes from a loving, functional family whereas Greg's parents are much more comical in their stodgy rich folk way. They bear a striking resemblance to Richard and Emily of Gilmore Girls." yes, but all comical - caricatures - which emily & richard sometimes are, but there are enough moments where their characters have real depth. and, I was just thinking about this - note that gilmoregirls started later - 2000? - and Dharma&G started in 1997.
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Dharma & Greg | TV Review | Entertainment Weekly: Couples, couples, couples — coupling and uncoupling the very concept of The Couple. That's what you find flipping channels on any given Tuesday, as the title characters on Will & Grace, Dharma & Greg, and the central players on Sports Night all banter, dither, and seek solace in each other. Of this trio, Will & Grace is couple-ating with the most amusing inventiveness and variety.
...an I Love Lucyan gut buster in which Grace wore a bust-enhancing ''hydro-bra'' to impress an old flame. Of course, the thing started to leak, leaving loyal Will no choice but to keep his hands clamped over his pal's mammaries, lest they start gushing. James Burrows (W&G's regular director) excels at choreographing this sort of slapstick; he can make a vulgar joke seem like a sly witticism through economy of movement.
My other problem with this series is that it's set in the wrong era. If the show had been made in the late sixties with Goldie Hawn in the lead role, it would have been a grand slam winner. huh, int re era but I nvr much have enjoyed goldiehawn... But set in the late nineties it just doesn't ring true. Let's look at the lifestyle she and her parents lead…they're vegetarians. Oh boy, is that comedy fodder! They're environmentally conscious. Hysterical! And her father has no love for the government—join the club. heh. ok.
Actually, Dharma comes from a loving, functional family whereas Greg's parents are much more comical in their stodgy rich folk way. They bear a striking resemblance to Richard and Emily of Gilmore Girls." yes, but all comical - caricatures - which emily & richard sometimes are, but there are enough moments where their characters have real depth. and, I was just thinking about this - note that gilmoregirls started later - 2000? - and Dharma&G started in 1997.
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Dharma & Greg | TV Review | Entertainment Weekly: Couples, couples, couples — coupling and uncoupling the very concept of The Couple. That's what you find flipping channels on any given Tuesday, as the title characters on Will & Grace, Dharma & Greg, and the central players on Sports Night all banter, dither, and seek solace in each other. Of this trio, Will & Grace is couple-ating with the most amusing inventiveness and variety.
...an I Love Lucyan gut buster in which Grace wore a bust-enhancing ''hydro-bra'' to impress an old flame. Of course, the thing started to leak, leaving loyal Will no choice but to keep his hands clamped over his pal's mammaries, lest they start gushing. James Burrows (W&G's regular director) excels at choreographing this sort of slapstick; he can make a vulgar joke seem like a sly witticism through economy of movement.
House: Airborne - tv.com - episode quotes
House: Can you say "Crickey Mate"?
12 year-old Boy: Crickey Mate.
House: Perfect. Now no matter what I say you'll agree with me, okay.
12 year-old Boy: Okay.
House: Nicely done. You, disagree with everything I say.
Foreign Man: Sorry, not understand.
House: Close enough. (to random woman) You get morally outraged by everything I say.
Sour Faced Girl: (about House writing on the movie screen) That's permanent marker, you know.
House: Wow, you guys are good.
House: Airborne - TV Squad: House finding the three people to stand in as Chase, Cameron, and Foreman was hilarious. I loved that. The woman who got to fill in for Cameron was outstanding. Her timing was perfect.
twop recaplet Airborne: With the help of some makeshift Cottages -- a child, a guy who doesn't speak English, and a woman who rocks a sweater vest and attitude better than Cameron ever did -- House diagnoses...
House: Can you say "Crickey Mate"?
12 year-old Boy: Crickey Mate.
House: Perfect. Now no matter what I say you'll agree with me, okay.
12 year-old Boy: Okay.
House: Nicely done. You, disagree with everything I say.
Foreign Man: Sorry, not understand.
House: Close enough. (to random woman) You get morally outraged by everything I say.
Sour Faced Girl: (about House writing on the movie screen) That's permanent marker, you know.
House: Wow, you guys are good.
House: Airborne - TV Squad: House finding the three people to stand in as Chase, Cameron, and Foreman was hilarious. I loved that. The woman who got to fill in for Cameron was outstanding. Her timing was perfect.
twop recaplet Airborne: With the help of some makeshift Cottages -- a child, a guy who doesn't speak English, and a woman who rocks a sweater vest and attitude better than Cameron ever did -- House diagnoses...
Wednesday, April 18, 2007
House Episodes | TVGuide.com:
A 6-year-old girl collapses with pericarditis, then has a stroke. This shouldn't be happening to someone so young. But then Chase and Cameron find a bloody T-shirt in a vent in her bedroom. Meanwhile, her 8-year-old brother develops a crush on Cameron, who has been bickering with Chase since she broke off their affair. And House gives Wilson a pair of theater tickets, then becomes jealous when he goes to the play with Cuddy.
I enjoyed this episode.
A 6-year-old girl collapses with pericarditis, then has a stroke. This shouldn't be happening to someone so young. But then Chase and Cameron find a bloody T-shirt in a vent in her bedroom. Meanwhile, her 8-year-old brother develops a crush on Cameron, who has been bickering with Chase since she broke off their affair. And House gives Wilson a pair of theater tickets, then becomes jealous when he goes to the play with Cuddy.
I enjoyed this episode.
Tuesday, April 17, 2007
The Riches - TWoP Forums P41:
There were some absolutely stellar moments tonight--Dahlia and Hugh, Dahlia and Di Di in the small, quiet scene in the jail cell yes that was lovely Dahlia singing Jesus loves me this I know because the Bible tells me so --but they're trying to keep so many plates spinning and things are all over the place. yes I wish that it would settle down into a routine. I'd like to see the Riches being the Riches at school & work (Dahlia working with the nice dentist) seems unsustainable the way they are going for this show to last and be aptly titled.
Wayne continues to be totally failing to control events, and I'm still in disbelief at what they're putting Di Di through with Ken. Who totally didn't need so much screen time tonight, and added nothing to his scenes at the office except pointless distraction from the real action with Dahlia and Hugh.
Meanwhile, way to make the subtext text by calling Dale a sociopath fifteen times. I had to fast-forward through the final scene with Earl, because that's just not what I'm watching this show for. me too ~?~ too mean-sad (Which, yes, is my own problem me too ; but illustrates the way in which they just haven't decided what they want the show to be.) -kieyra
I've been thinking could they liquidate The Riches' assetts, fly the family to the United Kingdom, buy an RV, and live off the grid there?
away from Dale and Ginny and the clan, and away from anyone who now knowes them as Doug & Cherene
There were some absolutely stellar moments tonight--Dahlia and Hugh, Dahlia and Di Di in the small, quiet scene in the jail cell yes that was lovely Dahlia singing Jesus loves me this I know because the Bible tells me so --but they're trying to keep so many plates spinning and things are all over the place. yes I wish that it would settle down into a routine. I'd like to see the Riches being the Riches at school & work (Dahlia working with the nice dentist) seems unsustainable the way they are going for this show to last and be aptly titled.
Wayne continues to be totally failing to control events, and I'm still in disbelief at what they're putting Di Di through with Ken. Who totally didn't need so much screen time tonight, and added nothing to his scenes at the office except pointless distraction from the real action with Dahlia and Hugh.
Meanwhile, way to make the subtext text by calling Dale a sociopath fifteen times. I had to fast-forward through the final scene with Earl, because that's just not what I'm watching this show for. me too ~?~ too mean-sad (Which, yes, is my own problem me too ; but illustrates the way in which they just haven't decided what they want the show to be.) -kieyra
I've been thinking could they liquidate The Riches' assetts, fly the family to the United Kingdom, buy an RV, and live off the grid there?
away from Dale and Ginny and the clan, and away from anyone who now knowes them as Doug & Cherene
Monday, April 16, 2007
YouTube - Amy Winehouse=Rehab
tried to make me go to Rehab I said No, no, no
yes I been black
but when I come back
wow - I've recently seen her in media - but I did not know she sounded like this
The DL - Amy Winehouse 'Rehab' Live!
The DL - Amy Winehouse 'Valerie' Live sounds like? . . . ah! got it. here she sounds v much to me like patty griffin but voice is not similar is it? I asked joe he was v helpful he said there is a similarity has to do w the breath, the pacing ~way breath runs out at end of lyric phrase
Valerie - The Zutons - covered by Amy Winehouse - Lyrics:
Well Sometimes I Go Out, By Myself, And I Look Across The Water.
And I Think Of All The Things, Of What You're Doing, And I Paint A Picture.
Since I've Come Home, Well My Body's Been A Mess, And I Miss Your Tender Hair, And The Way You Like To Dress.
Oh Wont You Come On Over, Stop Making A Fool Out Of Me, Why Dont You Come On Over, Valerie.
Valerie Valerie Valerie
Did You Have To Go To Jail, Put Your House Out Up For Sale, Did You Get A Good Lawyer.
I Hope You Didnt Catch A Tan, I Hope You Find The Right Man, Who'll Fix It For You.
Are You Shopping Anywhere, Change The Color Of Your Hair, And Are You Busy.
Did You Have To Pay That Fine, That You Were Dodging All The Time, Are You Still Dizzy.
Well Since I Come Home, Well My Body's Been A Mess, And I Miss Your Tender Hair, And The Way You Like To Dress.
Oh Wont You Come On Over, Stop Making A Fool Out Of Me, Oh Why Dont You Come On Over, Valerie.
Valerie Valerie Valerie
Well Sometimes I Go Out, By Myself, And I Look Across The Water.
And I Think Of All The Things, What You're Doing, And In My Head I Paint A Picture.
Since I've Come Home, Well My Body's Been A Mess, And I Miss Your Tender Hair, And The Way You Like To Dress.
Oh Wont You Come On Over, Stop Making A Fool Out Of Me, Why Dont You Come On Over, Valerie.
Valerie Valerie Valerie Valerie Valerie Valerie Valerie Valerie
tried to make me go to Rehab I said No, no, no
yes I been black
but when I come back
wow - I've recently seen her in media - but I did not know she sounded like this
The DL - Amy Winehouse 'Valerie' Live sounds like? . . . ah! got it. here she sounds v much to me like patty griffin but voice is not similar is it? I asked joe he was v helpful he said there is a similarity has to do w the breath, the pacing ~way breath runs out at end of lyric phrase
Valerie - The Zutons - covered by Amy Winehouse - Lyrics:
Well Sometimes I Go Out, By Myself, And I Look Across The Water.
And I Think Of All The Things, Of What You're Doing, And I Paint A Picture.
Since I've Come Home, Well My Body's Been A Mess, And I Miss Your Tender Hair, And The Way You Like To Dress.
Oh Wont You Come On Over, Stop Making A Fool Out Of Me, Why Dont You Come On Over, Valerie.
Valerie Valerie Valerie
Did You Have To Go To Jail, Put Your House Out Up For Sale, Did You Get A Good Lawyer.
I Hope You Didnt Catch A Tan, I Hope You Find The Right Man, Who'll Fix It For You.
Are You Shopping Anywhere, Change The Color Of Your Hair, And Are You Busy.
Did You Have To Pay That Fine, That You Were Dodging All The Time, Are You Still Dizzy.
Well Since I Come Home, Well My Body's Been A Mess, And I Miss Your Tender Hair, And The Way You Like To Dress.
Oh Wont You Come On Over, Stop Making A Fool Out Of Me, Oh Why Dont You Come On Over, Valerie.
Valerie Valerie Valerie
Well Sometimes I Go Out, By Myself, And I Look Across The Water.
And I Think Of All The Things, What You're Doing, And In My Head I Paint A Picture.
Since I've Come Home, Well My Body's Been A Mess, And I Miss Your Tender Hair, And The Way You Like To Dress.
Oh Wont You Come On Over, Stop Making A Fool Out Of Me, Why Dont You Come On Over, Valerie.
Valerie Valerie Valerie Valerie Valerie Valerie Valerie Valerie
The DL - Amy Winehouse 'Rehab' Live!
View all 311 comments:
-She looks like such a sad girl. She tries to come off as tough. She looks better here than in that video. Great talent tho. huh, does she seem sad? (wld make some sense of my liking her so well).
-she is totally herself-much better than the video- watch how she moves her hands and listen to how she sings the lyrics-she is phenomenal- do you recognize it? No bullshit-just purely who she is singing from her soul!
-i love both versions but the live one reveals her off the chain voice!respect
-I love her because she has an amazing voice and also has a sense of humor.
-as a black american i have to say when it comes to black american soul, white UK singers do it so much better than white american singers. not only do they come with feeling, they come with their own style. dusty, timi yuro, tom jones, lulu, annie lennox, alison moyet, lisa stansfield, etc. these are all true soul singers.
--But Aretha, Stevie, Al Green, Ray Charles, Marvin Gaye, Staples Singers, etc. Let us not forget the original inspiration.
-we know who the originals are-that goes w/o saying. black american soul is always gonna be what it is. the point is, when its in non-black, & sometimes, non-american hands, whats the verdict? & suprisingly its often done quite well...which proves that we all have soul. some are just better than others at expressing it.
-i think she's channelling the look of the ronettes, which is a cool look if you ask me.
-looks like she should work in a roadside cafe or selling candy floss at the fair
-Wow, she's pretty good here. And like somebody said earlier, she doesn't seem to make much effort to sing that good.
-amazing voice. she not like other artist that can't sing without that voice enhancer thingy.
-I wish she would put a whole album of just her and a guitar. This sounds better than the album.
--Use firefox video capture to download all these acoustic songs,then convert em to mp3 and BANG..u have a mini album :D
-Having recently stumbled upon Amy on YouTube, I got to say I'm enamored. Love the attitude, not to mention the vocal talent and ability to hold a performance in the palm of her hand.
-Her talent is mesmerizing.
-what i like most about her is she is sincere with her style of music. its obvious she has a blk influence but she doesnt come off as a poser like say justin timberlake her voice is great and her swag is real.
-Wowyzowy, what a voice,what a girl,what a coolness.
this song swings straight from the hips.
View all 311 comments:
-She looks like such a sad girl. She tries to come off as tough. She looks better here than in that video. Great talent tho. huh, does she seem sad? (wld make some sense of my liking her so well).
-she is totally herself-much better than the video- watch how she moves her hands and listen to how she sings the lyrics-she is phenomenal- do you recognize it? No bullshit-just purely who she is singing from her soul!
-i love both versions but the live one reveals her off the chain voice!respect
-I love her because she has an amazing voice and also has a sense of humor.
-as a black american i have to say when it comes to black american soul, white UK singers do it so much better than white american singers. not only do they come with feeling, they come with their own style. dusty, timi yuro, tom jones, lulu, annie lennox, alison moyet, lisa stansfield, etc. these are all true soul singers.
--But Aretha, Stevie, Al Green, Ray Charles, Marvin Gaye, Staples Singers, etc. Let us not forget the original inspiration.
-we know who the originals are-that goes w/o saying. black american soul is always gonna be what it is. the point is, when its in non-black, & sometimes, non-american hands, whats the verdict? & suprisingly its often done quite well...which proves that we all have soul. some are just better than others at expressing it.
-i think she's channelling the look of the ronettes, which is a cool look if you ask me.
-looks like she should work in a roadside cafe or selling candy floss at the fair
-Wow, she's pretty good here. And like somebody said earlier, she doesn't seem to make much effort to sing that good.
-amazing voice. she not like other artist that can't sing without that voice enhancer thingy.
-I wish she would put a whole album of just her and a guitar. This sounds better than the album.
--Use firefox video capture to download all these acoustic songs,then convert em to mp3 and BANG..u have a mini album :D
-Having recently stumbled upon Amy on YouTube, I got to say I'm enamored. Love the attitude, not to mention the vocal talent and ability to hold a performance in the palm of her hand.
-Her talent is mesmerizing.
-what i like most about her is she is sincere with her style of music. its obvious she has a blk influence but she doesnt come off as a poser like say justin timberlake her voice is great and her swag is real.
-Wowyzowy, what a voice,what a girl,what a coolness.
this song swings straight from the hips.
Tim Goodman. The Bastard Machine : "The Riches" Ep. 4-5, plus Friday marathon and review/preview ||| comments:
-Wayne and Dahlia may never get their stories straight (like the kids seem too), unless the writing team chooses to address the drama/comedy dissonance with fewer broad strokes. Maybe the off-kilter feeling has more to do with budgets and scheduling with the result being less time to preen over the results like HBO.
An aside: One of the most compelling dramatic representations of a street hustler not being able to understand even a modest assignment was Charlize Theron in 'Monster', while interviewing for a secretarial position. huh. A different tonality (not played for laughs), but brilliant in revealing the hard reality outsiders face when trying to go straight. Posted By: hickcity
-I suppose the writers made him a lawyer in order to make it plausible that there are no old friends that might trip them up. heh. Posted By: hickcity
-With The Riches, the writing is a little weak, but Izzard and Minnie beyond excellent. Izzard is obviously an immense talent, but who knew that Minnie Driver could do this? Off-topic: "Friday Night Lights" was a little off on the season wrap-up for obvious reasons ???, but overall it was a fabulous series. Dunno if it will be renewed (after CC's CC? oh the Culture Commisar TimGoodman so somewhere he talks about this proclimation), but I would be satisfied with a 1-hit-wonder, if that's the way it goes. Posted By: eroseme
-I think Minnie Driver has always been great but she is hard to cast. She is physically very different than most actresses. I think she is one of those rare actresses like Juliane Moore who come into their own AFTER fourty. int. Very rare. Helen Mirren, Judy Dench, those type of actresses. The really really good kind. Posted By: amandapants
-I'd also mention the well-wrought characters of the kids, who act like real kids. Posted By: jim94121
-No one has mentioned the episode (4th?) with the scene where Eddie Izzard visits Doug's ex-wife and phones Minnie Driver who is is sitting outside. What starts as a con transforms into a conversation between the two of them, her incarceration and his sorrow at having been responsible for it. It's the stuff I'll never seen on non-cable; it's surprising and literary in its quality. that scene was lovely, mainly bcs of Minnie Driver I think, but Izzard too. I don't know if it was a well-designed scene ~ but Dahlie getting so emotional that she now just responds when he says "Doug?" without any mediation of the role: "I didn't say anything."
As for the "no way he's a lawyer" thread, are *any* TV lawyers realistic? Allie McBeal, who worked about 45 minutes a day? (oh, well that was a comedy.) Law and Order? Talk about someone who never fails - how realistic is that? A fair point that one can't waltz in and practice corporate law but it doesn't unhitch the show from my truck. On the contrary I think one of the themes in The Riches is the Impostor Syndrome, and how we all feel at moments that we're faking it til we're making it. Posted By: jim94121
-Wayne and Dahlia may never get their stories straight (like the kids seem too), unless the writing team chooses to address the drama/comedy dissonance with fewer broad strokes. Maybe the off-kilter feeling has more to do with budgets and scheduling with the result being less time to preen over the results like HBO.
An aside: One of the most compelling dramatic representations of a street hustler not being able to understand even a modest assignment was Charlize Theron in 'Monster', while interviewing for a secretarial position. huh. A different tonality (not played for laughs), but brilliant in revealing the hard reality outsiders face when trying to go straight. Posted By: hickcity
-I suppose the writers made him a lawyer in order to make it plausible that there are no old friends that might trip them up. heh. Posted By: hickcity
-With The Riches, the writing is a little weak, but Izzard and Minnie beyond excellent. Izzard is obviously an immense talent, but who knew that Minnie Driver could do this? Off-topic: "Friday Night Lights" was a little off on the season wrap-up for obvious reasons ???, but overall it was a fabulous series. Dunno if it will be renewed (after CC's CC? oh the Culture Commisar TimGoodman so somewhere he talks about this proclimation), but I would be satisfied with a 1-hit-wonder, if that's the way it goes. Posted By: eroseme
-I think Minnie Driver has always been great but she is hard to cast. She is physically very different than most actresses. I think she is one of those rare actresses like Juliane Moore who come into their own AFTER fourty. int. Very rare. Helen Mirren, Judy Dench, those type of actresses. The really really good kind. Posted By: amandapants
-I'd also mention the well-wrought characters of the kids, who act like real kids. Posted By: jim94121
-No one has mentioned the episode (4th?) with the scene where Eddie Izzard visits Doug's ex-wife and phones Minnie Driver who is is sitting outside. What starts as a con transforms into a conversation between the two of them, her incarceration and his sorrow at having been responsible for it. It's the stuff I'll never seen on non-cable; it's surprising and literary in its quality. that scene was lovely, mainly bcs of Minnie Driver I think, but Izzard too. I don't know if it was a well-designed scene ~ but Dahlie getting so emotional that she now just responds when he says "Doug?" without any mediation of the role: "I didn't say anything."
As for the "no way he's a lawyer" thread, are *any* TV lawyers realistic? Allie McBeal, who worked about 45 minutes a day? (oh, well that was a comedy.) Law and Order? Talk about someone who never fails - how realistic is that? A fair point that one can't waltz in and practice corporate law but it doesn't unhitch the show from my truck. On the contrary I think one of the themes in The Riches is the Impostor Syndrome, and how we all feel at moments that we're faking it til we're making it. Posted By: jim94121
Charlotte Sometimes - Feb07 - NYRB Children's Collection
oh nice...NYRB, wow. someone there has such great taste. I mean this is really about my fvrt childrens book of all and so long outofprint. aware of this bcs cust ord'd 2 copies. points to him too.
About NYRB - NYRB ---
What the press has said about NYRB Classics ...
In 1999 the New York Review of Books launched the most ambitious publishing program in America. Today, with 100 books reissued in its Classics Series, we can also call it the most spectacular. Its roster of authors is a literary who's who: Balzac and Chekhov, Stendhal, Pasternak and Colette, Henry James and Nathaniel Hawthorne. Its titles encompass such universally acclaimed works as the Richard Hughes novel A High Wind in Jamaica and Robert Burton's classic omnibus, The Anatomy of Melancholy. In addition to wealths of insight and writerly skill, these books share something else: All were long out of print. They are reminders that even high achievement is no guarantee of immortality in the crowded realm of literature.. —J. Peder Zane, Raleigh News & Observer
In these faith-testing times, I've found something that deserves unwavering belief—the New York Review of Books publishing house. Nearly everything it does is nearly perfect. hear hear. You'll marvel at the editorial choices—forgotten travelogues that turn out to be journeys themselves, nonfiction ephemera rescued from ferociously unfair obscurity and deceptively short novels, like O'Brien's, that remind you of the reason you like reading to begin with. The reason, of course, is that it's a rare pleasure to find something that breathes new life into the same old stories that life constantly re-enacts. —Daniel Handler (a.k.a. Lemony Snicket) Newsday
NYRB Classics is a terrific reprint line—really amazingly fine in its choice of titles and in the design of the books. —Michael Dirda, The Washington Post
Congratulations to NYRB Classics. . .they have been putting out an extraordinarily good list lately, and I have been torn as to which one to choose. —Nicholas Lezard, Guardian
Overall the collection is faultless. —Vogue
For the past four decades, The New York Review of Books has tirelessly championed liberal causes. It comes, therefore, as a welcome surprise that the magazine's new book-publishing imprint—New York Review Books Classics—is performing a nonpartisan service, excellently. —The National Review
oh nice...NYRB, wow. someone there has such great taste. I mean this is really about my fvrt childrens book of all and so long outofprint. aware of this bcs cust ord'd 2 copies. points to him too.
About NYRB - NYRB ---
What the press has said about NYRB Classics ...
In 1999 the New York Review of Books launched the most ambitious publishing program in America. Today, with 100 books reissued in its Classics Series, we can also call it the most spectacular. Its roster of authors is a literary who's who: Balzac and Chekhov, Stendhal, Pasternak and Colette, Henry James and Nathaniel Hawthorne. Its titles encompass such universally acclaimed works as the Richard Hughes novel A High Wind in Jamaica and Robert Burton's classic omnibus, The Anatomy of Melancholy. In addition to wealths of insight and writerly skill, these books share something else: All were long out of print. They are reminders that even high achievement is no guarantee of immortality in the crowded realm of literature.. —J. Peder Zane, Raleigh News & Observer
In these faith-testing times, I've found something that deserves unwavering belief—the New York Review of Books publishing house. Nearly everything it does is nearly perfect. hear hear. You'll marvel at the editorial choices—forgotten travelogues that turn out to be journeys themselves, nonfiction ephemera rescued from ferociously unfair obscurity and deceptively short novels, like O'Brien's, that remind you of the reason you like reading to begin with. The reason, of course, is that it's a rare pleasure to find something that breathes new life into the same old stories that life constantly re-enacts. —Daniel Handler (a.k.a. Lemony Snicket) Newsday
NYRB Classics is a terrific reprint line—really amazingly fine in its choice of titles and in the design of the books. —Michael Dirda, The Washington Post
Congratulations to NYRB Classics. . .they have been putting out an extraordinarily good list lately, and I have been torn as to which one to choose. —Nicholas Lezard, Guardian
Overall the collection is faultless. —Vogue
For the past four decades, The New York Review of Books has tirelessly championed liberal causes. It comes, therefore, as a welcome surprise that the magazine's new book-publishing imprint—New York Review Books Classics—is performing a nonpartisan service, excellently. —The National Review
Sunday, April 15, 2007
Elliott Bay Book Co. - Staff Recommends - Paul:
Fup
by Jim Dodge
I read this book three times in one day, and I've read it countless times since, sometimes aloud, other times to music, other times in silence. I could go on at length about the plot—a grandfather, a grandson, some magic whiskey, a duck, and tons of post holes—but none of that could relay the importance of reading Fup: it's a magical book, it feels like some sort of weird totem dug up from the earth, and every time I read it I'm reminded that there is more to reading than simply extracting information or making little movies in your mind. I am reminded that there is an ambiguous leap in reading that is taken, somewhere between the words on the page and the synapses of the mind, and that that leap is one of the most wonderful and magical parts of being alive.
FUP. fup fup fup fup fup.
I was trying to recall - paul's favorite book, about a duck, by ~ jim sth? title is ~ hap? and I got a first edition hardcover, it's at 9619. but ebbco page wld not load and ggl: book duck was not promisting. finally got in to this page.
fup fup fup fup fup.
Fupby Jim Dodge
I read this book three times in one day, and I've read it countless times since, sometimes aloud, other times to music, other times in silence. I could go on at length about the plot—a grandfather, a grandson, some magic whiskey, a duck, and tons of post holes—but none of that could relay the importance of reading Fup: it's a magical book, it feels like some sort of weird totem dug up from the earth, and every time I read it I'm reminded that there is more to reading than simply extracting information or making little movies in your mind. I am reminded that there is an ambiguous leap in reading that is taken, somewhere between the words on the page and the synapses of the mind, and that that leap is one of the most wonderful and magical parts of being alive.
FUP. fup fup fup fup fup.
I was trying to recall - paul's favorite book, about a duck, by ~ jim sth? title is ~ hap? and I got a first edition hardcover, it's at 9619. but ebbco page wld not load and ggl: book duck was not promisting. finally got in to this page.
fup fup fup fup fup.
Friday, April 13, 2007
Chuck Lorre Productions - [Vanity Cards] - Text:
Dharma & Greg
YEAR ONE
01 .. I believe that if you can't find anything nice to say about people whom you've helped to make wildly successful and then they stabbed you in the back, then don't say anything at all. .. huh relevant to jaime -
02 .. I believe I've spent my life expecting people to behave in a certain way. I believe that when they didn't behave according to my expectations, I became angry, sad, confused and occasionally fearful. I believe these expectations are the reason I've been angry, sad, confused and occasionally fearful more than I care to admit. .. hmm again, jaime.
Dharma & Greg
YEAR ONE
01 .. I believe that if you can't find anything nice to say about people whom you've helped to make wildly successful and then they stabbed you in the back, then don't say anything at all. .. huh relevant to jaime -
02 .. I believe I've spent my life expecting people to behave in a certain way. I believe that when they didn't behave according to my expectations, I became angry, sad, confused and occasionally fearful. I believe these expectations are the reason I've been angry, sad, confused and occasionally fearful more than I care to admit. .. hmm again, jaime.
List of Dharma & Greg episodes - Wkp:
The Mamas and the Papas -In the first part of this special one-hour season finale, Dharma and Greg find themselves once again trying to make peace between their polar opposite parents when an argument breaks out over whether the couple will vacation with the Finkelsteins or the Montgomerys. Dharma tries to appease both sides by arranging for everyone to spend the weekend at the Montgomerys' mountain chalet, but when the usual bickering and insults kick into high gear, it finally sends Dharma and Greg over the edge. In the second half-hour, Dharma & Greg get stuck in a snowstorm after leaving the chalet and begin to wonder how their diverse upbringings will affect them as parents.
so that was the finale. saw it in am a friday or 2 ago - finding that FX airs Dharma & Greg 2 episodes at 9am weekdays - and this episode sold me on them, I really liked it. dharma & greg in broken down van start talking about parenting and dharma writes out problems and they pull slips of paper & diagree how wld handle - and dharma is afraid "I don't think we're going to be able to work this out" and greg says "we always work out" and then says how he might compromise and then dharma says Let's make a baby. greg - right here? dharma nods. and they send away AAA when a guy arrives..
what other episodes have I seen (this is my new new-to-me show):
Try to Remember This Kind of September -Dharma's best friend from her childhood commune days, September (Juliette Lewis), pops back into her life unexpectedly, evoking feelings of jealousy in Dharma when she proves to be the perfect hippie child in Abby and Larry's eyes. earlier in the final season 5. I liked this bcs I like Juliette Lewis a lot..
and that one was followed by the next one in sequence that season:
Used Karma -When Greg starts to dress and act strangely after driving the used car Dharma recently bought, she worries he's been possessed by the spirit of the car's previous owner, a petty criminal and gambler who met an untimely death. Meanwhile, Edward has Larry set up a security camera at his house to help catch the kid who eggs his house every Halloween, but the "trick" is still on him, on a special Halloween-themed episode. I liked seeing Dharma play the down-to-earth role to Greg's being nutty. her parents, have you asked him what's going on? I try but when I say What is happening? he just says "you are, baby, you are."
and this morning I saw
Invasion of the Buddy Snatcher -Dharma becomes friends with Greg's poker buddies and "humanizes" them to Greg. last episode of season 1.
Ringing Up Baby -Dharma agrees to adopt the baby of a pregnant checkout girl named Donna. first episodes of season 2.
I was looking up this episode to see where this fell in relation to the one that turned out to be the finale (I wondered if they had found out they could not have kids? but no, this adoption idea was three years before that finale)
I like Dharma a lot. I really enjoy her nuttyness (in contrast to Lorelai, where I like that she is playful but it is her seriousness I like and her silly banter is not much funny to me). Dharma giving the final update after the birth of Donna's baby: he's a beautiful boy! five five - five five - and one! (fingers, toes, ..)
The Mamas and the Papas -In the first part of this special one-hour season finale, Dharma and Greg find themselves once again trying to make peace between their polar opposite parents when an argument breaks out over whether the couple will vacation with the Finkelsteins or the Montgomerys. Dharma tries to appease both sides by arranging for everyone to spend the weekend at the Montgomerys' mountain chalet, but when the usual bickering and insults kick into high gear, it finally sends Dharma and Greg over the edge. In the second half-hour, Dharma & Greg get stuck in a snowstorm after leaving the chalet and begin to wonder how their diverse upbringings will affect them as parents.
so that was the finale. saw it in am a friday or 2 ago - finding that FX airs Dharma & Greg 2 episodes at 9am weekdays - and this episode sold me on them, I really liked it. dharma & greg in broken down van start talking about parenting and dharma writes out problems and they pull slips of paper & diagree how wld handle - and dharma is afraid "I don't think we're going to be able to work this out" and greg says "we always work out" and then says how he might compromise and then dharma says Let's make a baby. greg - right here? dharma nods. and they send away AAA when a guy arrives..
what other episodes have I seen (this is my new new-to-me show):
Try to Remember This Kind of September -Dharma's best friend from her childhood commune days, September (Juliette Lewis), pops back into her life unexpectedly, evoking feelings of jealousy in Dharma when she proves to be the perfect hippie child in Abby and Larry's eyes. earlier in the final season 5. I liked this bcs I like Juliette Lewis a lot..
and that one was followed by the next one in sequence that season:
Used Karma -When Greg starts to dress and act strangely after driving the used car Dharma recently bought, she worries he's been possessed by the spirit of the car's previous owner, a petty criminal and gambler who met an untimely death. Meanwhile, Edward has Larry set up a security camera at his house to help catch the kid who eggs his house every Halloween, but the "trick" is still on him, on a special Halloween-themed episode. I liked seeing Dharma play the down-to-earth role to Greg's being nutty. her parents, have you asked him what's going on? I try but when I say What is happening? he just says "you are, baby, you are."
and this morning I saw
Invasion of the Buddy Snatcher -Dharma becomes friends with Greg's poker buddies and "humanizes" them to Greg. last episode of season 1.
Ringing Up Baby -Dharma agrees to adopt the baby of a pregnant checkout girl named Donna. first episodes of season 2.
I was looking up this episode to see where this fell in relation to the one that turned out to be the finale (I wondered if they had found out they could not have kids? but no, this adoption idea was three years before that finale)
I like Dharma a lot. I really enjoy her nuttyness (in contrast to Lorelai, where I like that she is playful but it is her seriousness I like and her silly banter is not much funny to me). Dharma giving the final update after the birth of Donna's baby: he's a beautiful boy! five five - five five - and one! (fingers, toes, ..)
Thursday, April 12, 2007
Song Lyrics : You Are Not Needed Now (Townes Van Zandt)
Well, the birds were talking all at once
and the old man mowing down his lawn
he didn't look like much too bad a guy
And I was thinkin' Hang on, man, something's wrong
your blues seems to be gone
heaven ain't bad but you don't get nothing done.
Lay down your head with mine
you are not needed now
and we got things to do
Between the blankets made of wool
the trains roll by every half an hour
and the body can get no restin' done, that's true
so I do my best, as best I can
thinkin' big and making plans
and wondering where them trains are rolling to
Lay down your head poor boy
and feel how the ground does move
and hear how them drivers sing
Well, goodbye friends, it's time to close
everybody knows that's the way it goes
where was it you lived in case I'm ever there
Well, three doors down and two behind
and it gets a little bit out of hand sometimes
don't let it fool you into thinkin you don't care
Lay down your head and fly
I'll quietly pass you by
you won't even see me go
Well, the birds were talking all at once
and the old man mowing down his lawn
he didn't look like much too bad a guy
And I was thinkin' Hang on, man, something's wrong
your blues seems to be gone
heaven ain't bad but you don't get nothing done.
Lay down your head with mine
you are not needed now
and we got things to do
Between the blankets made of wool
the trains roll by every half an hour
and the body can get no restin' done, that's true
so I do my best, as best I can
thinkin' big and making plans
and wondering where them trains are rolling to
Lay down your head poor boy
and feel how the ground does move
and hear how them drivers sing
Well, goodbye friends, it's time to close
everybody knows that's the way it goes
where was it you lived in case I'm ever there
Well, three doors down and two behind
and it gets a little bit out of hand sometimes
don't let it fool you into thinkin you don't care
Lay down your head and fly
I'll quietly pass you by
you won't even see me go
Wednesday, April 11, 2007
via Speak (2004) (TV) (which is on channel 41 lifetime now) to Steve Zahn (who I thought I recognized as McFly from Back to the Future but no guess not - where I've seen him is Riding in Cars with Boys where he was the young husband, sweet but ~useless and drug lost, to Drew Barrymore's character)
to SubUrbia (1996) (which I have not seen and maybe I actually d n like any of Linklater's films - hear about him as if he is interesting and maybe the name sounds its so I've thought maybe I just happened not to like whichever movie I was watching did not care for Waking Life and found Before Sunset awful, the dialogue offensively awfully pretentious & cliched, not that there aren't people that talk like that but I find them as is said insufferable, oh and Tape was pretty bad too!):
--Linklater is treading in some of his familiar water ... one night in the night of a group of adolescents dealing with that difficult period at the end of high school, when one stops being what one must be and starts being what one chooses to be.
huh. doesn't seem profound but maybe that's the rub. when I got to St and felt inarticulately that this is just us now, why aren't we being...? what? did I mean, why am I not being what I choose to be.
HS being what you must be.
then: it's your life. the reason to do anything is you.
oh yeah the actor in Back to the Future was Crispin Glover
nobody else seems to think Steve Zahn resembles him
Crispin Glover Steve Zahn "looks like" - Google Search
to SubUrbia (1996) (which I have not seen and maybe I actually d n like any of Linklater's films - hear about him as if he is interesting and maybe the name sounds its so I've thought maybe I just happened not to like whichever movie I was watching did not care for Waking Life and found Before Sunset awful, the dialogue offensively awfully pretentious & cliched, not that there aren't people that talk like that but I find them as is said insufferable, oh and Tape was pretty bad too!):
--Linklater is treading in some of his familiar water ... one night in the night of a group of adolescents dealing with that difficult period at the end of high school, when one stops being what one must be and starts being what one chooses to be.
huh. doesn't seem profound but maybe that's the rub. when I got to St and felt inarticulately that this is just us now, why aren't we being...? what? did I mean, why am I not being what I choose to be.
HS being what you must be.
then: it's your life. the reason to do anything is you.
oh yeah the actor in Back to the Future was Crispin Glover
nobody else seems to think Steve Zahn resembles him
Crispin Glover Steve Zahn "looks like" - Google Search
Sunday, April 8, 2007
SteveKrause.org: Pandora and Lastfm -- Nature [inherent qualities] vs. Nurture (as in, it's all about the people around you) in Music Recommenders:
Pandora is less subject to the echo chamber of overly like minds ["locked loops"], but it has its own fundamental challenge in its reliance on matching songs' "genes". Pandora's success hinges on a theory, and a specific implementation of that theory, about why music recommendations work. By contrast, Last.fm simply describes what goes together according to its audience and then makes relatively simple inferences from that. So if there are hidden factors that Pandora isn't explicitly capturing, Last.fm is at least capturing them indirectly.
It's not hard to find cases where Pandora's approach runs aground, although the system's lack of transparency makes it difficult to know where the problem lies. For example, it's hard to explain Pandora's initial choices for Gary Numan (he of "Cars" fame). With Numan as the seed, Pandora gave me syrupy pop tunes by Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark and the Human League. Yes, each artist's most famous material was from the same time and was primarily electronic, but the latter two really miss the Numan aesthetic, which is more like supercooled liquid metal than warm syrup. Pandora went on to do somewhat better, but not great, with subsequent tunes. In comparison, Last.fm immediately delivered Numan-appropriate songs from Assemblage 23, Killing Joke, Kraftwerk, and Skinny Puppy, eventually drifting into less relevant territory. Still, Pandora partially redeemed itself with an inspired connection: "Out of Control" by Ric Ocasek (former leader of the Cars), an obscure cut from an artist that is far from obvious as a connection for Gary Numan. striking incidental connection that the above brief parentheticals for Ocasek & for Numan each say 'Cars' - to understand that this does not indicate an obvious connection, I needed to learn that Numan is famous for a song called "Cars" not for anything to do with the band that Ocasek headed.
I think I remember Colbert talking about Ric Ocasek - removing him, maybe from his dead-to-me board? and then Ocasek was there, on the show? maybe.
I found Last.fm better than Pandora at delivering songs that I liked or at least didn't feel compelled to skip, which is the most important thing when I'm listening while doing something else. Meanwhile, Pandora had more misses but was more likely to surface something truly out of left field, as with the Ric Ocasek example. I think Pandora has greater promise because it is far easier for Pandora to incorporate Last.fm's functionality than the other way around. That said, Pandora's advantage comes at a significant cost to its business, with all the manual work it entails. At this point, Pandora is not delivering proportionally more benefit for that cost—which is why I used the word "promise" above.
The key to Pandora's changing the game is to take better advantage of its exclusive, hard-to-replicate metadata about music. Users may never be able to objectively judge the quality of recommendations among different services, but they can definitely tell the difference between services with unique ways of getting to recommendations. For example, I'd like to see Pandora expose some of its internal attributes as dials for the user to control. If I put in the singer Paul Westerberg (former leader of the Replacements), I'd like to tell the system ie to match more strongly along his lyrical style right I'd like that too rather than by the fact he has a 'gravely male voice' (which is one of the things Pandora said it was matching on). It's easy to picture many other creative uses of Pandora's metadata, both in terms of a recommender and other applications.
. . . ______________________
Finally, I wonder why Pandora continues to employ hundreds of attributes. In the world of modeling preferences, hundreds of variables typically can be consolidated down to a much smaller number with nearly the same predictive power. Typically, you start with a large number of variables as a kind of fishing expedition and then, over time, reduce the set down to those that are doing most of the work. The reduced set can be part of the original set and/or new variables derived specifically for predictive power. For a manual-labor-intensive business like Pandora's, being able to cut the number of variables in half (or a lot more) would help contain the costs. And if there's good reason not to consolidate attributes -
well aren't they interested in the Musical Genome Project in the first place, in its own right?
Pandora Internet Radio:
Ever since we started the Music Genome Project, our friends would ask:
Can you help me discover more music that I'll like?
Those questions often evolved into great conversations. Each friend told us their favorite artists and songs, explored the music we suggested, gave us feedback, and we in turn made new suggestions. Everybody started joking that we were now their personal DJs.
We created Pandora so that we can have that same kind of conversation with you.
see. Pandora was subsequent to the Music Genome Project.
On January 6, 2000 a group of musicians and music-loving technologists came together with the idea of creating the most comprehensive analysis of music ever.
It's not about what a band looks like, or what genre they supposedly belong to, or about who buys their records - it's about what each individual song sounds like.
Pandora is less subject to the echo chamber of overly like minds ["locked loops"], but it has its own fundamental challenge in its reliance on matching songs' "genes". Pandora's success hinges on a theory, and a specific implementation of that theory, about why music recommendations work. By contrast, Last.fm simply describes what goes together according to its audience and then makes relatively simple inferences from that. So if there are hidden factors that Pandora isn't explicitly capturing, Last.fm is at least capturing them indirectly.
It's not hard to find cases where Pandora's approach runs aground, although the system's lack of transparency makes it difficult to know where the problem lies. For example, it's hard to explain Pandora's initial choices for Gary Numan (he of "Cars" fame). With Numan as the seed, Pandora gave me syrupy pop tunes by Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark and the Human League. Yes, each artist's most famous material was from the same time and was primarily electronic, but the latter two really miss the Numan aesthetic, which is more like supercooled liquid metal than warm syrup. Pandora went on to do somewhat better, but not great, with subsequent tunes. In comparison, Last.fm immediately delivered Numan-appropriate songs from Assemblage 23, Killing Joke, Kraftwerk, and Skinny Puppy, eventually drifting into less relevant territory. Still, Pandora partially redeemed itself with an inspired connection: "Out of Control" by Ric Ocasek (former leader of the Cars), an obscure cut from an artist that is far from obvious as a connection for Gary Numan. striking incidental connection that the above brief parentheticals for Ocasek & for Numan each say 'Cars' - to understand that this does not indicate an obvious connection, I needed to learn that Numan is famous for a song called "Cars" not for anything to do with the band that Ocasek headed.
I think I remember Colbert talking about Ric Ocasek - removing him, maybe from his dead-to-me board? and then Ocasek was there, on the show? maybe.
I found Last.fm better than Pandora at delivering songs that I liked or at least didn't feel compelled to skip, which is the most important thing when I'm listening while doing something else. Meanwhile, Pandora had more misses but was more likely to surface something truly out of left field, as with the Ric Ocasek example. I think Pandora has greater promise because it is far easier for Pandora to incorporate Last.fm's functionality than the other way around. That said, Pandora's advantage comes at a significant cost to its business, with all the manual work it entails. At this point, Pandora is not delivering proportionally more benefit for that cost—which is why I used the word "promise" above.
The key to Pandora's changing the game is to take better advantage of its exclusive, hard-to-replicate metadata about music. Users may never be able to objectively judge the quality of recommendations among different services, but they can definitely tell the difference between services with unique ways of getting to recommendations. For example, I'd like to see Pandora expose some of its internal attributes as dials for the user to control. If I put in the singer Paul Westerberg (former leader of the Replacements), I'd like to tell the system ie to match more strongly along his lyrical style right I'd like that too rather than by the fact he has a 'gravely male voice' (which is one of the things Pandora said it was matching on). It's easy to picture many other creative uses of Pandora's metadata, both in terms of a recommender and other applications.
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Finally, I wonder why Pandora continues to employ hundreds of attributes. In the world of modeling preferences, hundreds of variables typically can be consolidated down to a much smaller number with nearly the same predictive power. Typically, you start with a large number of variables as a kind of fishing expedition and then, over time, reduce the set down to those that are doing most of the work. The reduced set can be part of the original set and/or new variables derived specifically for predictive power. For a manual-labor-intensive business like Pandora's, being able to cut the number of variables in half (or a lot more) would help contain the costs. And if there's good reason not to consolidate attributes -
well aren't they interested in the Musical Genome Project in the first place, in its own right?
Pandora Internet Radio:
Ever since we started the Music Genome Project, our friends would ask:
Can you help me discover more music that I'll like?
Those questions often evolved into great conversations. Each friend told us their favorite artists and songs, explored the music we suggested, gave us feedback, and we in turn made new suggestions. Everybody started joking that we were now their personal DJs.
We created Pandora so that we can have that same kind of conversation with you.
see. Pandora was subsequent to the Music Genome Project.
On January 6, 2000 a group of musicians and music-loving technologists came together with the idea of creating the most comprehensive analysis of music ever.
It's not about what a band looks like, or what genre they supposedly belong to, or about who buys their records - it's about what each individual song sounds like.
az- The Girls: A Novel - by Lori Lansens - Apr07
caught eye on mlrm shlf bcs cover art, title remind of MelanieRaeThon ~ GirlsInTheGrass. and huh: Conjoined twins Rose and Ruby Darlen -- aren't those the same names as on epis of Nip/Tuck ? ah just the name Rose in common. and huh - Rose and Raven Rosenberg played by real-life conjoined twins Reba and Lori Schappell. Lansens says idea for book after seeing bit of documentary re Reba & Lori . huh, just coincidence that for both stories, the inspiration involved Reba & Lori *and* name Rose was given to one of the fictional twins?
Talk:Lori and Reba Schappell - Wkp
This is from Chuck Shepherd's "News of the Weird" column, October 23, 2005:
Reba Schappell, of Reading, Pa., a professional country music singer who is also a conjoined twin with sister Lori, was profiled in a September segment of the BBC radio series "Who Runs Your World." [BBC News, 9-21-05]
Said Reba, "When I am singing, Lori is like any other fan, except she's up on the stage with me (covered in a blanket to reduce the distraction)."
Said Lori: "I do not ask for anything from Reba. I don't get in to her concerts free just because she's a conjoined twin. I have to pay, just like every other fan that comes to the concert."
well that seems unfair. stars probably often invite family to shows gratis. and Lori has to go, of course - Reba is in her debt for cooperating, isn't she?
What Happened After Dr. James Goodrich Separated the Head-Joined Aguirre Twins
The country’s—or perhaps the world’s—oldest living craniopagus twins, Lori and Reba Schappell, have an answer for Goodrich—well, more Lori than Reba ...
caught eye on mlrm shlf bcs cover art, title remind of MelanieRaeThon ~ GirlsInTheGrass. and huh: Conjoined twins Rose and Ruby Darlen -- aren't those the same names as on epis of Nip/Tuck ? ah just the name Rose in common. and huh - Rose and Raven Rosenberg played by real-life conjoined twins Reba and Lori Schappell. Lansens says idea for book after seeing bit of documentary re Reba & Lori . huh, just coincidence that for both stories, the inspiration involved Reba & Lori *and* name Rose was given to one of the fictional twins?
Talk:Lori and Reba Schappell - Wkp
This is from Chuck Shepherd's "News of the Weird" column, October 23, 2005:
Reba Schappell, of Reading, Pa., a professional country music singer who is also a conjoined twin with sister Lori, was profiled in a September segment of the BBC radio series "Who Runs Your World." [BBC News, 9-21-05]
Said Reba, "When I am singing, Lori is like any other fan, except she's up on the stage with me (covered in a blanket to reduce the distraction)."
Said Lori: "I do not ask for anything from Reba. I don't get in to her concerts free just because she's a conjoined twin. I have to pay, just like every other fan that comes to the concert."
well that seems unfair. stars probably often invite family to shows gratis. and Lori has to go, of course - Reba is in her debt for cooperating, isn't she?
What Happened After Dr. James Goodrich Separated the Head-Joined Aguirre Twins
The country’s—or perhaps the world’s—oldest living craniopagus twins, Lori and Reba Schappell, have an answer for Goodrich—well, more Lori than Reba ...
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