https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/3xv16u/mtf_with_just_a_few_questions/cy86a99
Eclectic58MiddleAged Malcontent 2 points
First
of all, we don't dislike people, in this case, people who identify as
trans.
What we dislike and disagree with is the trans philosophy; the
idea that it's possible to be one sex born into the "wrong" body of the
other and that it's possible to change one's sex.
I personally believe
that trans people are the biggest victims of the gender system and the
trans philosophy - the idea that you have to change yourself to be
yourself.
We believe it's biologically impossible to change your sex
and we don't believe that the brain is a sexed organ,
but we also
believe that if {though} you can't become a woman, you can certainly become a
different kind of man, other than what the stereotypes (what some call
"gender" or "masculinity" and "femininity") tell you that you "should"
be. //yes!
To be clear, we believe that sex is biological and what is male or
female, man or woman.
"Gender" on the other hand, is an artificial
social construct that comprises the stereotyped notions of "masculinity"
and "femininity", in regards to personality traits, personal expression
and style, and interests.
Gender differs by culture and has not been
consistent throughout history, while sex has always been the same in
every culture and throughout history.
So, "gender" is neither innate
nor necessary to being a man or woman; it's just window dressing
traditionally meant to call attention to and emphasize one's sex; it
doesn't determine what it is in the first place. //yes v good, distinctions well articulated. and had not seen put clearly: gender traditionally meant to call attn to sex.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/3xv16u/mtf_with_just_a_few_questions/cy81xo6
-Pyrgomache_AmazonAspiring She-Hulk:
I don't know if I am a minority opinion here, but I have no problem with
trans women. I've known a few trans women (and trans men) and all of
them have been awesome people to me. //word.//
My issue with gender identity politics doesn't really have to do with individuals. My issue is with cultural sexism. //as seems appropr! why take issue with (*against*) individuals//
...In sum, I realized that all the reasons I wanted to be male were
actually due to me needing feminism, or things I can change as a woman,
or things I couldn't even change with a sex change that I need to make
peace with.
So, when I see MTF folks, I want to ask: why do you want to be a
woman? Why do you hate your body? Are you wanting to align with sexist
stereotypes?
If you want to wear a dress and makeup and be nurturing, you can
do that as a man.
You need feminism and the abolition of gender, not a
sex change. /yes. though~ seems understandable to me might be worth it to live more or less as a woman. given social reality at present.// No need to be a woman for that. Fuck with the gender binary
and just be you. /yes. if you are up to that. //
If you want to change your body because it feels wrong, and it is
causing you distress, then you need to talk to a doctor. Sex
reassignment might be right for you if you are dysphoric.
Just realize
you have benefitted from male privilege before you were perceived as
female by others and don't silence other women when they talk about
their own womanhood.
[And] please don't just conform to sexist notions
of what a woman is, and still remember, "Fuck gender, fuck what people
tell me to be, I'm just going to be me."
Either way, just do you! Do not let sexism hold you back from being gender nonconforming.
Thursday, December 24, 2015
humane and positive critique of gender
ANNOUNCEMENT {No more threads re:} "I am a trans woman! Ask me anything"
We get several posts a week from MtTs asking for hand holding on basic principles of gender critical feminism, and who magnanimously offer...
reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/
//// this cmmt v reasonable:
-dotinaline: these are people (of all sorts of bodies and relationships to them) who suffer from a lot of serious traumas from patriarchy, our common enemy.
[They] deserve a baseline level of respect, rather than baiting and ideological purity.
I hate to say it, but I've seen some of the same behavior in this sub from some users that I've seen in trans-activist circles: pedantry, willful misunderstanding, unnecessary obviously gleeful language used with the intention of causing distress.
And then people backed in a corner act out when they sense the hostility. I don't think it's cool that they acted out, but I feel that it's pretty unfair to act like they weren't cornered. We all know how people get defensive, so why put them in that position?
You could be turning away the people who need to hear dissenting conversation and alternative viewpoints the most.
I also feel that it's pretty obvious that the trans and detransitioned folks who fit this description are already aware of /asktransgender and are finding themselves booted for daring to question anything. Part of the reason many of us are here are because we noticed the very low tolerance in popular trans activism, so I fail to see why we'd seek to build on a similar model.
I understand that people need a place to vent and to deal with the pain, the frustration, abuse, and gas-lighting that happens to women, by men and transgender people.
But I also feel like gender-critical feminism is the best place to start when it comes to building a humane and positive counter-gender movement, and that may be what people seek when they come here. And that isn't the current direction of some of the conversations here.
-flowirin Post-OP TGERF /:)/ : it is important to remember that we are all humans, all people. Its not OK to pile in on people, attempt to verbally beat them down. Sure, get on top of the trolls, but the open, thinking people?
// hm now this cntrpnt is ~ not nice, but ok her pnt is not to hv to be nice:
-FemMenace In a House Divided: Typically, man comes into gender critical conversation, proclaiming to be a woman. [For us to be] stating he is a man is not an attack. ... If they want women catering to their anti-science, insulting definitions of womanhood, or a giant hugbox, that's what the rest of the internet is for. //
--dotonaline: My goal is definitely not "converts" as much as I'd ideally like there to be a visible, viable, and good-spirited critique of gender available for everyone. I can appreciate the desire for women to have the freedom to say stuff that isn't all cuddles and kisses.
But it [is sad] that the material consequences ARE young people who see this sort of behavior and are like "yep, everyone was right about radfems all along, they're all mean and shit" and go on to deprive themselves of a meaningful alternative to innate gender. You can't just tell them they're wrong for not tolerating it when they're already gone. In a very real sense, I see that as failing them.
I think it's important for us to distinguish ourselves as a different way of thinking, so that people don't feel fucking trapped in understanding themselves with the options of
"gender is real, and you're wrong and disgusting"
or
"gender is real, bodies can be wrong*, anything anyone says about themselves is right*, female people who question it are evil for describing their reality." etc. /good well put * y y / Like, those are the 2 most prevalent and available modes people have to conceive of themselves.
I think there could be immense power and relief for a LOT of people if there was a strong culture of "gender is bullshit" and address the wide variety of patriarchal and mental health reasons things are the way we are. We have no culture to support dysphoric people (and MANY people are dysphoric, and it's only increasing since there's been so much more visibility for trans folk) aside from the popular trans narrative. {Gender is real, innate; you may have been born in the wrong body; you are what you feel like and can/shld thrfr identify as.} The popular trans narrative may have a lot of initial appeal, but it leaves a lot of people stranded with something that is drastic and might not work at all to fix the issues that led them to dysphoria in the first place. /yes!
We get several posts a week from MtTs asking for hand holding on basic principles of gender critical feminism, and who magnanimously offer...
reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/
//// this cmmt v reasonable:
-dotinaline: these are people (of all sorts of bodies and relationships to them) who suffer from a lot of serious traumas from patriarchy, our common enemy.
[They] deserve a baseline level of respect, rather than baiting and ideological purity.
I hate to say it, but I've seen some of the same behavior in this sub from some users that I've seen in trans-activist circles: pedantry, willful misunderstanding, unnecessary obviously gleeful language used with the intention of causing distress.
And then people backed in a corner act out when they sense the hostility. I don't think it's cool that they acted out, but I feel that it's pretty unfair to act like they weren't cornered. We all know how people get defensive, so why put them in that position?
You could be turning away the people who need to hear dissenting conversation and alternative viewpoints the most.
I also feel that it's pretty obvious that the trans and detransitioned folks who fit this description are already aware of /asktransgender and are finding themselves booted for daring to question anything. Part of the reason many of us are here are because we noticed the very low tolerance in popular trans activism, so I fail to see why we'd seek to build on a similar model.
I understand that people need a place to vent and to deal with the pain, the frustration, abuse, and gas-lighting that happens to women, by men and transgender people.
But I also feel like gender-critical feminism is the best place to start when it comes to building a humane and positive counter-gender movement, and that may be what people seek when they come here. And that isn't the current direction of some of the conversations here.
-flowirin Post-OP TGERF /:)/ : it is important to remember that we are all humans, all people. Its not OK to pile in on people, attempt to verbally beat them down. Sure, get on top of the trolls, but the open, thinking people?
// hm now this cntrpnt is ~ not nice, but ok her pnt is not to hv to be nice:
-FemMenace In a House Divided: Typically, man comes into gender critical conversation, proclaiming to be a woman. [For us to be] stating he is a man is not an attack. ... If they want women catering to their anti-science, insulting definitions of womanhood, or a giant hugbox, that's what the rest of the internet is for. //
--dotonaline: My goal is definitely not "converts" as much as I'd ideally like there to be a visible, viable, and good-spirited critique of gender available for everyone. I can appreciate the desire for women to have the freedom to say stuff that isn't all cuddles and kisses.
But it [is sad] that the material consequences ARE young people who see this sort of behavior and are like "yep, everyone was right about radfems all along, they're all mean and shit" and go on to deprive themselves of a meaningful alternative to innate gender. You can't just tell them they're wrong for not tolerating it when they're already gone. In a very real sense, I see that as failing them.
I think it's important for us to distinguish ourselves as a different way of thinking, so that people don't feel fucking trapped in understanding themselves with the options of
"gender is real, and you're wrong and disgusting"
or
"gender is real, bodies can be wrong*, anything anyone says about themselves is right*, female people who question it are evil for describing their reality." etc. /good well put * y y / Like, those are the 2 most prevalent and available modes people have to conceive of themselves.
I think there could be immense power and relief for a LOT of people if there was a strong culture of "gender is bullshit" and address the wide variety of patriarchal and mental health reasons things are the way we are. We have no culture to support dysphoric people (and MANY people are dysphoric, and it's only increasing since there's been so much more visibility for trans folk) aside from the popular trans narrative. {Gender is real, innate; you may have been born in the wrong body; you are what you feel like and can/shld thrfr identify as.} The popular trans narrative may have a lot of initial appeal, but it leaves a lot of people stranded with something that is drastic and might not work at all to fix the issues that led them to dysphoria in the first place. /yes!
Friday, December 18, 2015
reconciling the goals of gender abolition {gender critical radical feminism} with the reality of the gendered world we are currently living in.
Transparent (2014) s02e09 Episode Script | SS
"Transparent" Man on the Land (TV Episode 2015) - IMDb
Michigan Womyn's Music Festival and transgender people - Wkp |
. . . .Lisa Vogel, fbk May2014: Ours is a fundamental and respectful feminist statement about who this gathering is intended for, and if some cannot hear this without translating that into a “policy”, “ban” or a “prohibition”, this speaks to a deep-seated failure to think outside of structures of control that inform and guide the patriarchal world. Trans womyn and transmen have always attended this gathering. Some attend wanting to change the intention, while others feel the intention includes them. /ok./ Deciding how the festival’s intention applies to each person is not what we’re about. Defining the intention of the gathering for ourselves is vital. /fair enough./ .. Aug14: We believe that support for womyn-born-female space is not at odds with standing with and for the transgender community.
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lisa vogel michfest - Google Search
Everyone wants to talk about MichFest >> The Thang Blog
This Year's Michigan Womyn's Music Festival Will Be the Last | Advocate.com
Op-ed: Michfest's Founder Chose to Shut Down Rather Than Change With the Times | Advocate.com
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* int// New Narratives 2014: Reframing the conversation | new directions in trans activism //via wkp Michfest & transgender: L Vogel: the statements calling for the boycott of the MWMF neither speak for all transgender womyn nor incl all of their voices, with regard to their support of the Festival’s intention of womyn-born-female space, for ex, the New Narratives Conference .. //
. . . .New Narratives 2014 is a trans woman-only discussion about the ways in which current trans theory harms trans women, and reconciling the goals of gender abolition {radical feminism} with the reality of the gendered world we are currently living in.
. . . . /here, hmm: cut the crap with “sex is socially constructed” and “female penis” arguments. .. How do we reduce violence against trans women of color, especially trans women of color who do sex work? How can we support trans women and trans teens who are homeless? .. We will still insist upon the ground rule that solutions to the problems of trans women cannot come at the expense of the rights of women born female. / ok well said.
The concept for this workshop came out of a conversation about attending Radfems Respond, which takes place in Portland the same weekend as our event. We plan to attend the Saturday portion of Radfems Respond, which is open to everyone. The Sunday portion of Radfems Respond is for women born female only. The thought occurred to all three of us: we’ll be in Portland anyway, so shouldn’t we use Sunday to have some tough conversations among ourselves, as trans women?
New Narratives is meant to send the explicit message that we respect female-only spaces. [and] to communicate our understanding that trans women as a community are directly impacted by some issues affecting females (and that it makes sense for the two communities to work together on these), but that there are also many issues unique to each group.
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Radical Feminism FAQ | BEND IT TIL IT BREAKS {Rachel Ivy} | Men commit 95 percent of the violent crime and 98 percent of the sexual crime in the US. Men need to confront other men. They need to stop each other from committing violence, both against men—in their endless wars, for instance—and against women.
This is what I said at Radfems Respond | BEND IT TIL IT BREAKS | Proponents of the liberal [vs radical] definition of gender believe that gender is something we are born with /seems nuts? really think this? consider/, and if a person’s inborn gender doesn’t match up with the accepted stereotypes for the body we’re born with, then it means that that person was born in the wrong body /nuts, rt?/. This definition of gender is being used to tell children, toddlers, that they were born in the wrong body if they don’t conform to gender. This is an oppressive form of biological essentialism. The only groups of people whom I’ve heard defend gender as a natural, inevitable quality that we’re born with, other than gender liberals who call themselves progressive, are men’s rights activists and conservative religious fundamentalists.
//see also// Lierre Keith at Radfems Respond | bendittilitbreaks // radical feminist & radical environmentalist lierre keith - Ggl here see also Derrick Jensen ( remember fr seattle)
myths & thetruthaboutthemichiganfestival | ..There are many trans women & allies who do not feel that Michigan's intention is transphobic.* See article on the NewStatesman website* > Miranda Yardley re Newsnight
Kellie Maloney, Newsnight, the debate the transgender community refused to have - by Miranda Yardley | NewStatesman | I was invited to debate fr the point of view of a trans woman who supports *a gender critical approach* informed by feminism. The gender critical approach establishes that "being a woman" is not a matter of an individual’s identity. Someone who is gender critical recognises that trans women are biologically male (and trans men are biologically female). ..This feminist approach views gender essentialism as the basis of women’s oppression. These questions divide trans activists and radical feminists. What are the implications for women of positing a "female brain"? Should someone be accepted as a woman just because they say they are? ///yes accepted as making valid choice to live as a woman, to find a better fit w female gender (ie stereotypes), given that we live in a world that is gendered. but no, not as indistinct from cis women. not as having a right that is denied if not explicitly included in 'women born women' groups. ///
see also:
ommadusk.tumblr.com/tagged/transactivism | personal blog of transsexual Miranda Yardley
MirandaYardley.com | Blog of Gender Critical Transsexual Miranda Yardley > Cosmopolitan interview
MirandaYardley | Matchwomen’s Festival Talk: It is wrong //unhelpful// to insist feminism centre transwomen, this forces the oppressed majority to centre the interests of part of the male oppressor class; women neither oppress nor have privilege by way of gender over trans people.
i'm scared too | uglyuglytruths.tumblr.com/tagged/trans+ideology
- The Trans Women Who Say That Trans Women Aren’t Women
* TRANSAVANT - "Trans women are women" is a lie that is as... | I am a Gender Non Conforming Male or Transwoman if you prefer
"Trans women are women" is a lie that is as dangerous to transwomen as it is to women. ..It’s a lie that sets us up to be triggered every time we are called he, or “guys” or somebody dares to suggest that we have male biology. //y. valid choice to live as woman, to have found oneself with characteristics associated with female gender and thus better able to live as a woman, without this fragile (untenable-seeming) conception of being innately a woman, born in wrong body.//
Our personality, our choices, our empathies and our identities are worthy even if they are on the wrong /other/ side of the line /from expected stereotype-gender/. The line is made up. It’s not the natural order. Men can be anything. Women can be anything. /y!!//
Postscript: I should also add that we have to live, survive and navigate our way in a gendered world and as such I support transition. I support the need to live *as* women as long as we understand and respect our differences. I also support medicalised treatment including surgery to deal with true dysphoria. Whether dysphoria is innate or a result of childhood experiences is irrelevant to the fact that it exists and needs to be treated compassionately. //as also any mental anguish, illness, suffering.//
* cf New Narratives 2014 "a discussion about the ways in which current trans theory harms trans women, and reconciling the goals of gender abolition {radical feminism} with the reality of the gendered world we are currently living in."
* TRANSAVANT p2 //I find this all sincere and thoughtful.
> Gender critical trans women: The apostates of the trans rights movement | Slate | by Michelle Goldberg (same as Nyr article) |
To the mainstream trans rights movement, womanhood (or manhood) is a matter of self-perception.
To radical feminists, it’s a material condition.
Radical feminists believe women are a subordinate social class, oppressed due to their biology, and that there’s nothing innate about femininity.
They think you can’t have a woman’s brain in a man’s body because there’s no such thing as a “woman’s brain".
They see a difference between living as a woman {experiencing, in a social gendered world, more recognition as a woman} and being one {= having found oneself to have (be) a female body}.
>> The Dispute Between Radical Feminism and Transgenderism | The New Yorker | by Michelle Goldberg //int Miranda Yardley and writer of Transavant met & started dating :)
> REAL for women | links:
--You Can’t ‘feel’ race, but can you ‘feel’ female? On Rachel Dolezal, Caitlyn Jenner, and unspeakable questions <<< y why is it dffrnt? may be a good answer, pointing out how the comparison is inappropriate, unhelpful. I'd like to hear that articulated. (ask km.)
--Men Defining Rape: A History
> The New Backlash <<<
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"Transparent" Man on the Land (TV Episode 2015) - IMDb
Michigan Womyn's Music Festival and transgender people - Wkp |
. . . .Lisa Vogel, fbk May2014: Ours is a fundamental and respectful feminist statement about who this gathering is intended for, and if some cannot hear this without translating that into a “policy”, “ban” or a “prohibition”, this speaks to a deep-seated failure to think outside of structures of control that inform and guide the patriarchal world. Trans womyn and transmen have always attended this gathering. Some attend wanting to change the intention, while others feel the intention includes them. /ok./ Deciding how the festival’s intention applies to each person is not what we’re about. Defining the intention of the gathering for ourselves is vital. /fair enough./ .. Aug14: We believe that support for womyn-born-female space is not at odds with standing with and for the transgender community.
-
lisa vogel michfest - Google Search
Everyone wants to talk about MichFest >> The Thang Blog
This Year's Michigan Womyn's Music Festival Will Be the Last | Advocate.com
Op-ed: Michfest's Founder Chose to Shut Down Rather Than Change With the Times | Advocate.com
-
* int// New Narratives 2014: Reframing the conversation | new directions in trans activism //via wkp Michfest & transgender: L Vogel: the statements calling for the boycott of the MWMF neither speak for all transgender womyn nor incl all of their voices, with regard to their support of the Festival’s intention of womyn-born-female space, for ex, the New Narratives Conference .. //
. . . .New Narratives 2014 is a trans woman-only discussion about the ways in which current trans theory harms trans women, and reconciling the goals of gender abolition {radical feminism} with the reality of the gendered world we are currently living in.
. . . . /here, hmm: cut the crap with “sex is socially constructed” and “female penis” arguments. .. How do we reduce violence against trans women of color, especially trans women of color who do sex work? How can we support trans women and trans teens who are homeless? .. We will still insist upon the ground rule that solutions to the problems of trans women cannot come at the expense of the rights of women born female. / ok well said.
The concept for this workshop came out of a conversation about attending Radfems Respond, which takes place in Portland the same weekend as our event. We plan to attend the Saturday portion of Radfems Respond, which is open to everyone. The Sunday portion of Radfems Respond is for women born female only. The thought occurred to all three of us: we’ll be in Portland anyway, so shouldn’t we use Sunday to have some tough conversations among ourselves, as trans women?
New Narratives is meant to send the explicit message that we respect female-only spaces. [and] to communicate our understanding that trans women as a community are directly impacted by some issues affecting females (and that it makes sense for the two communities to work together on these), but that there are also many issues unique to each group.
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Radical Feminism FAQ | BEND IT TIL IT BREAKS {Rachel Ivy} | Men commit 95 percent of the violent crime and 98 percent of the sexual crime in the US. Men need to confront other men. They need to stop each other from committing violence, both against men—in their endless wars, for instance—and against women.
This is what I said at Radfems Respond | BEND IT TIL IT BREAKS | Proponents of the liberal [vs radical] definition of gender believe that gender is something we are born with /seems nuts? really think this? consider/, and if a person’s inborn gender doesn’t match up with the accepted stereotypes for the body we’re born with, then it means that that person was born in the wrong body /nuts, rt?/. This definition of gender is being used to tell children, toddlers, that they were born in the wrong body if they don’t conform to gender. This is an oppressive form of biological essentialism. The only groups of people whom I’ve heard defend gender as a natural, inevitable quality that we’re born with, other than gender liberals who call themselves progressive, are men’s rights activists and conservative religious fundamentalists.
//see also// Lierre Keith at Radfems Respond | bendittilitbreaks // radical feminist & radical environmentalist lierre keith - Ggl here see also Derrick Jensen ( remember fr seattle)
myths & thetruthaboutthemichiganfestival | ..There are many trans women & allies who do not feel that Michigan's intention is transphobic.* See article on the NewStatesman website* > Miranda Yardley re Newsnight
Kellie Maloney, Newsnight, the debate the transgender community refused to have - by Miranda Yardley | NewStatesman | I was invited to debate fr the point of view of a trans woman who supports *a gender critical approach* informed by feminism. The gender critical approach establishes that "being a woman" is not a matter of an individual’s identity. Someone who is gender critical recognises that trans women are biologically male (and trans men are biologically female). ..This feminist approach views gender essentialism as the basis of women’s oppression. These questions divide trans activists and radical feminists. What are the implications for women of positing a "female brain"? Should someone be accepted as a woman just because they say they are? ///yes accepted as making valid choice to live as a woman, to find a better fit w female gender (ie stereotypes), given that we live in a world that is gendered. but no, not as indistinct from cis women. not as having a right that is denied if not explicitly included in 'women born women' groups. ///
see also:
ommadusk.tumblr.com/tagged/transactivism | personal blog of transsexual Miranda Yardley
MirandaYardley.com | Blog of Gender Critical Transsexual Miranda Yardley > Cosmopolitan interview
MirandaYardley | Matchwomen’s Festival Talk: It is wrong //unhelpful// to insist feminism centre transwomen, this forces the oppressed majority to centre the interests of part of the male oppressor class; women neither oppress nor have privilege by way of gender over trans people.
i'm scared too | uglyuglytruths.tumblr.com/tagged/trans+ideology
- The Trans Women Who Say That Trans Women Aren’t Women
* TRANSAVANT - "Trans women are women" is a lie that is as... | I am a Gender Non Conforming Male or Transwoman if you prefer
"Trans women are women" is a lie that is as dangerous to transwomen as it is to women. ..It’s a lie that sets us up to be triggered every time we are called he, or “guys” or somebody dares to suggest that we have male biology. //y. valid choice to live as woman, to have found oneself with characteristics associated with female gender and thus better able to live as a woman, without this fragile (untenable-seeming) conception of being innately a woman, born in wrong body.//
Our personality, our choices, our empathies and our identities are worthy even if they are on the wrong /other/ side of the line /from expected stereotype-gender/. The line is made up. It’s not the natural order. Men can be anything. Women can be anything. /y!!//
Postscript: I should also add that we have to live, survive and navigate our way in a gendered world and as such I support transition. I support the need to live *as* women as long as we understand and respect our differences. I also support medicalised treatment including surgery to deal with true dysphoria. Whether dysphoria is innate or a result of childhood experiences is irrelevant to the fact that it exists and needs to be treated compassionately. //as also any mental anguish, illness, suffering.//
* cf New Narratives 2014 "a discussion about the ways in which current trans theory harms trans women, and reconciling the goals of gender abolition {radical feminism} with the reality of the gendered world we are currently living in."
* TRANSAVANT p2 //I find this all sincere and thoughtful.
> Gender critical trans women: The apostates of the trans rights movement | Slate | by Michelle Goldberg (same as Nyr article) |
To the mainstream trans rights movement, womanhood (or manhood) is a matter of self-perception.
To radical feminists, it’s a material condition.
Radical feminists believe women are a subordinate social class, oppressed due to their biology, and that there’s nothing innate about femininity.
They think you can’t have a woman’s brain in a man’s body because there’s no such thing as a “woman’s brain".
They see a difference between living as a woman {experiencing, in a social gendered world, more recognition as a woman} and being one {= having found oneself to have (be) a female body}.
>> The Dispute Between Radical Feminism and Transgenderism | The New Yorker | by Michelle Goldberg //int Miranda Yardley and writer of Transavant met & started dating :)
> REAL for women | links:
--You Can’t ‘feel’ race, but can you ‘feel’ female? On Rachel Dolezal, Caitlyn Jenner, and unspeakable questions <<< y why is it dffrnt? may be a good answer, pointing out how the comparison is inappropriate, unhelpful. I'd like to hear that articulated. (ask km.)
--Men Defining Rape: A History
> The New Backlash <<<
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