Lantana (2001)
Psychiatrist Valerie Somers disappears one night; Det. Leon Zat is called to investigate; his wife has been getting advice from Somers.
cmmt: This well-delivered ensemble piece is a film version of Andrew Bovell's play SPEAKING IN TONGUES. It deals with adult relationships, particularly the sexual tension and anxiety that eventually develops in mature relationships. The plot and interaction between characters depends heavily on coincidence, but this isn't a major flaw in a film that really concerns itself with adult behavior patterns. That aspect of the film is sophisticated and honest; well worth the viewer's time. Brooding, subtle and smart are the words for LANTANA and I highly recommend it.
Anthony LaPaglia
Thursday, August 31, 2006
Wednesday, August 30, 2006
WHPK 88.5 FM Chicago: Folk
WHPK 88.5 FM Chicago: Folk:
5:00–6:00 PM
If It Ain’t Right, Get Right but today: Come all ye coleminers - with Pier
The best in old-time, traditional, and hillbilly music.
6:00–7:00 PM
The Dusties Trail with Randy and Kim but today: Girl with Tractor
The kind of country you won’ hear anywhere else.
5:00–6:00 PM
If It Ain’t Right, Get Right but today: Come all ye coleminers - with Pier
The best in old-time, traditional, and hillbilly music.
6:00–7:00 PM
The Dusties Trail with Randy and Kim but today: Girl with Tractor
The kind of country you won’ hear anywhere else.
ryan adams - Oh My Sweet Carolina
I miss Kentucky and I miss my family
all the sweetest winds they blow across the South
oh my sweet Carolina - what compels me to go -oh my sweet disposition
may you one day carry me home
this was in the mix of emmy lou harris duets I found and put here below:
The Sweetest Winds They Blow Across the South -- Adam Bristor
&hmm- HickoryWind.org | Gettin' the Feel of Hickory Wind: Ryan Adams, the mercurial (at best) carrier of Gram Parson's flame, wrote a song with a similar feeling, called "O My Sweet Carolina." (similar to Parson's song Hickory Wind)
...
girl-with-tractor stuck there bcs 'ryan' d n show for next show, played Billy Bragg (?album w Wilco) that song fr my Stanford days - roomate Casey's record? and also now "yes mary we found a human skull" ~lyrics story I don't love it as song - Handsome Family -Yes Mary, we huddled in the gloom. We built a raft from skin and bones. Only five could safely float. The others stood upon the shore. ...www.johndavies.org/2006/06/more-days-of-wonder-with-rennie-sparks.html John Davies
again not love but ok lyrics fun Nobody knows I'm Elvis nobody knows this is me
So I bought me some Levi's and grew me a beard and you'll never guess who I am
After all of my tries I've got the perfect disguise
And I'm who I want to be
I want to show you Graceland baby that's where you ought to be
I'll give you a call but let's keep it all somewhere between you and me
huh it's Waylon singing, cute:
Bet you thought I was ol' Waylon with all of my rugged good looks
Swagger and walk body and soul I bet he had what it took
I've always envied his singing the way he played a guitar
Black vest and hat that's where it's at that's what I call a star
I miss Kentucky and I miss my family
all the sweetest winds they blow across the South
oh my sweet Carolina - what compels me to go -oh my sweet disposition
may you one day carry me home
this was in the mix of emmy lou harris duets I found and put here below:
The Sweetest Winds They Blow Across the South -- Adam Bristor
&hmm- HickoryWind.org | Gettin' the Feel of Hickory Wind: Ryan Adams, the mercurial (at best) carrier of Gram Parson's flame, wrote a song with a similar feeling, called "O My Sweet Carolina." (similar to Parson's song Hickory Wind)
...
girl-with-tractor stuck there bcs 'ryan' d n show for next show, played Billy Bragg (?album w Wilco) that song fr my Stanford days - roomate Casey's record? and also now "yes mary we found a human skull" ~lyrics story I don't love it as song - Handsome Family -Yes Mary, we huddled in the gloom. We built a raft from skin and bones. Only five could safely float. The others stood upon the shore. ...www.johndavies.org/2006/06/
again not love but ok lyrics fun Nobody knows I'm Elvis nobody knows this is me
So I bought me some Levi's and grew me a beard and you'll never guess who I am
After all of my tries I've got the perfect disguise
And I'm who I want to be
I want to show you Graceland baby that's where you ought to be
I'll give you a call but let's keep it all somewhere between you and me
huh it's Waylon singing, cute:
Bet you thought I was ol' Waylon with all of my rugged good looks
Swagger and walk body and soul I bet he had what it took
I've always envied his singing the way he played a guitar
Black vest and hat that's where it's at that's what I call a star
and who's this voice, a voice I know, ah
GILLIAN WELCH - WAYSIDE -- BACK IN TIME
I wanna go back when you were mine Back baby, back in time ...
mm she is pretty her songs
I Had A Real Good Mother And Father
GILLIAN WELCH - WAYSIDE -- BACK IN TIME
I wanna go back when you were mine Back baby, back in time ...
mm she is pretty her songs
I Had A Real Good Mother And Father
And they surely stood the test
And now they’re in bright glory
And are sleeping on the savior’s breast
Caitlin Cary & Thad Cockrell, Begonias --Nude as the News: rock writing for the musically obsessed
the singers get a little more folksy with 'Something Less Than Something More' - a quick pitter-patter drum beat and lite, tickling acoustic guitars speed the tune along as Cary laments a love that was not to be. 'Picked a pretty shirt this morning - thought that stripe might catch your eye - You looked at me the same as always / I told myself another lie - Because I'm something less than something more to you - Just something here to pass the time.'
One could forgive a lazy listener for comparing Begonias, the first album pairing Raleigh, N.C.-based singer/songwriters Caitlin Cary and Thad Cockrell, with Cary's earlier work with the infamous Whiskeytown. After all, Cockrell naturally sings in the same tenor as Ryan Adams, the erstwhile alt.country wunderkind whose innate songwriting fueled two stellar albums in the mid-to-late 1990s with Cary during their chaotic days in Whiskeytown. And Begonias is, at its heart, a country album, meaning the melodies and sad tunes that dominate the record will sound somewhat familiar to old fans of Cary's first band. Finally, Cary and Cockrell sing their harmonies in natural lockstep, no doubt leading some reviewers to instantly think of the Adams-Cary harmonies that dominated the best Whiskeytown songs -- songs that many critics consider some of the most heartfelt, honest, stark tunes in the fading alt.country universe.
nice Wednes 5 to 6pm girl meets tractor on whpk, following on Pier's show.
before this was (all sounded nice)
kelly hogan "in time"
trailer bride "silk hope road" is this what I came in during and tht, is it lucinda wllms?
neko case "need to burn bridge" not sure I was in room for this
after was Guy Clark - Me I'm Feelin' The Same Lyrics
on the sunlight through your hair, your hair - the sunlight through your hair mm
now you lookin' like the mornin' side - of the best day I've ever seen aw
you lookin' like hope to a hopeless fool oh
like the end of an old bad dream, I mean - that it must've been an old bad dream
Maria - Willie Nelson ~
Corrina Corrina - Dylan
waylon jennings
wilco Forget the Flowers pretty pretty -- reminds: Send me dead flowers by the mail... and don't forget
You're trying my patience, try pink carnations
Red roses and yellow daffodils
Don't forget the flowers, someday, I know you will
found on: Being There
words: Jeff Tweedy
debuted/last played: performance history
back to the Wilco lyrics archive nice site - www.bemydemon.org A SEA BLACK WITH INK the Wilco lyrics archive
the singers get a little more folksy with 'Something Less Than Something More' - a quick pitter-patter drum beat and lite, tickling acoustic guitars speed the tune along as Cary laments a love that was not to be. 'Picked a pretty shirt this morning - thought that stripe might catch your eye - You looked at me the same as always / I told myself another lie - Because I'm something less than something more to you - Just something here to pass the time.'
One could forgive a lazy listener for comparing Begonias, the first album pairing Raleigh, N.C.-based singer/songwriters Caitlin Cary and Thad Cockrell, with Cary's earlier work with the infamous Whiskeytown. After all, Cockrell naturally sings in the same tenor as Ryan Adams, the erstwhile alt.country wunderkind whose innate songwriting fueled two stellar albums in the mid-to-late 1990s with Cary during their chaotic days in Whiskeytown. And Begonias is, at its heart, a country album, meaning the melodies and sad tunes that dominate the record will sound somewhat familiar to old fans of Cary's first band. Finally, Cary and Cockrell sing their harmonies in natural lockstep, no doubt leading some reviewers to instantly think of the Adams-Cary harmonies that dominated the best Whiskeytown songs -- songs that many critics consider some of the most heartfelt, honest, stark tunes in the fading alt.country universe.
nice Wednes 5 to 6pm girl meets tractor on whpk, following on Pier's show.
before this was (all sounded nice)
kelly hogan "in time"
trailer bride "silk hope road" is this what I came in during and tht, is it lucinda wllms?
neko case "need to burn bridge" not sure I was in room for this
after was Guy Clark - Me I'm Feelin' The Same Lyrics
on the sunlight through your hair, your hair - the sunlight through your hair mm
now you lookin' like the mornin' side - of the best day I've ever seen aw
you lookin' like hope to a hopeless fool oh
like the end of an old bad dream, I mean - that it must've been an old bad dream
Maria - Willie Nelson ~
Corrina Corrina - Dylan
waylon jennings
wilco Forget the Flowers pretty pretty -- reminds: Send me dead flowers by the mail... and don't forget
You're trying my patience, try pink carnations
Red roses and yellow daffodils
Don't forget the flowers, someday, I know you will
found on: Being There
words: Jeff Tweedy
debuted/last played: performance history
back to the Wilco lyrics archive nice site - www.bemydemon.org A SEA BLACK WITH INK the Wilco lyrics archive
Brian Flemming is possibly an asshole: Since I have real work to do, dammit, I haven't been able to follow this LG15 stuff nearly as much as I would like. But one conclusion I have reached is that there's a reasonable chance I'm an asshole.
If this whole thing turns out to be the work of a young and ambitious theater troupe or even high-school students (i.e., something like Jon Fine suggests), well, then my previous criticism seems a bit harsh. When I realized that LG15 was a hoax, my first thought, actually my only thought, was that this had to be a piece of viral marketing put on by a corporation trying to sell products to teens (this kind of thing usually is). So, naturally, the gloves were off. No need to worry about hurting the feelings of, say, the Target corporation. My toaster broke the day after the warranty expired, so they have it coming.
But what if I took the gloves off and beat up an innocent 16-year-old girl? I can tell you from experience, people look at you funny when you do that.
LG15 is of course a fake, in that it's pretending to be something that it's not. And if LG15 is a $1M corporate promotion, it's weak. But if it's one of the first projects put on by some young upstarts with limited resources, it's a damn impressive debut.
So, provisionally, I am an asshole, and I wanted to be the first to say it. (Er, with regard to this matter. I'm certainly not the first person to call me an asshole in general. Hi, Mom!)
Note to emailers who popped some Xanax with Virginia Heffernan and don't want to come down: Sorry, I can't explain every single coincidence you intrepid young sleuthers have found. Just don't have the time. But here are some relevant facts:
1. "Daniel" and "Beast" are not an unusual pairing. According to the Good Book, the Antichrist is supposed to come from the tribe of Daniel. Anyone riffing on Bible mythology might use the two terms together.
2. Bat Boy was not a hoax. We made a musical out of a character who was created by the Weekly World News in 1992. Even the WWN editors acknowledge in interviews that their paper is fake. Nobody who sees Bat Boy thinks the character actually exists. And if anyone does, tell them for me that I think they're retarded.
3. I'm not an occultist or Satanist or religionist in any way, so I'd have no motivation to introduce people to my Lord and Master Aleister Crowley. cool - saw someone pointing to this post 6-6-06 Satanic High Mass
4. I've never lied to a reporter about any of my projects. If my LG15 denial is false, the truth will come out eventually, and I'd have thrown away my credibility. And for what? A publicity stunt on YouTube? No way. When I trash my career, the casus casus? will at least be a meltdown on Oprah, or a disturbing revelation about my private life, or a woman who's no good but I just can't see it. nice. Something appropriate. It won't be a lie about YouTube.
I am not involved..
If this whole thing turns out to be the work of a young and ambitious theater troupe or even high-school students (i.e., something like Jon Fine suggests), well, then my previous criticism seems a bit harsh. When I realized that LG15 was a hoax, my first thought, actually my only thought, was that this had to be a piece of viral marketing put on by a corporation trying to sell products to teens (this kind of thing usually is). So, naturally, the gloves were off. No need to worry about hurting the feelings of, say, the Target corporation. My toaster broke the day after the warranty expired, so they have it coming.
But what if I took the gloves off and beat up an innocent 16-year-old girl? I can tell you from experience, people look at you funny when you do that.
LG15 is of course a fake, in that it's pretending to be something that it's not. And if LG15 is a $1M corporate promotion, it's weak. But if it's one of the first projects put on by some young upstarts with limited resources, it's a damn impressive debut.
So, provisionally, I am an asshole, and I wanted to be the first to say it. (Er, with regard to this matter. I'm certainly not the first person to call me an asshole in general. Hi, Mom!)
Note to emailers who popped some Xanax with Virginia Heffernan and don't want to come down: Sorry, I can't explain every single coincidence you intrepid young sleuthers have found. Just don't have the time. But here are some relevant facts:
1. "Daniel" and "Beast" are not an unusual pairing. According to the Good Book, the Antichrist is supposed to come from the tribe of Daniel. Anyone riffing on Bible mythology might use the two terms together.
2. Bat Boy was not a hoax. We made a musical out of a character who was created by the Weekly World News in 1992. Even the WWN editors acknowledge in interviews that their paper is fake. Nobody who sees Bat Boy thinks the character actually exists. And if anyone does, tell them for me that I think they're retarded.
3. I'm not an occultist or Satanist or religionist in any way, so I'd have no motivation to introduce people to my Lord and Master Aleister Crowley. cool - saw someone pointing to this post 6-6-06 Satanic High Mass
In future years, millions will probably claim to have been at the 6-6-06 High Mass held by the Church of Satan on its 40th anniversary.
To test these claimants, ask "What happened between Lust and Destruction?"
If they tell you, they weren't there.
to say you are. For the record, all that religion stuff is bullshit, and you shouldn't pollute your mind with it. Just say no. Save the planet. If your parents make you hail Satan or praise the zombie Jesus, tell them for me that I think they're retarded.4. I've never lied to a reporter about any of my projects. If my LG15 denial is false, the truth will come out eventually, and I'd have thrown away my credibility. And for what? A publicity stunt on YouTube? No way. When I trash my career, the casus casus? will at least be a meltdown on Oprah, or a disturbing revelation about my private life, or a woman who's no good but I just can't see it. nice. Something appropriate. It won't be a lie about YouTube.
I am not involved..
Tuesday, August 29, 2006
defective yeti: Irrational Exuberance:
rw: The Yeti recommends... (dYeti)
Pandora Internet Radio: Here's how Pandora works. You tell it an artist or song you like; it pulls tracks with similar styles from its database, adds them to your playlist, and streams the feed to you as a customized radio station. I'd dabbled with Pandora a few times in the past but never really saw the point: why not just listen to a radio station you enjoy instead of building one from scratch? But then I plugged the aforementioned Bitter:Sweet in there and discovered a host of similar bands. It's more of a super-sophisticated recommendation engine than radio station, but I've found an astounding amount of great music using it.If you decide to register, you check out my dy Mix.
The Best of Youth: Netflix was insistent in suggesting The Best of Youth, putting a shooting star aside the title and giving it permanent slot atop my recommendation page. I was skeptical: you see my five star ratings for "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Barton Fink" and think I'm going to enjoy a six-hour Italian soap opera? I eventually ordered the film just to get Netflix to shut up about it, and, oh my, it's sublime. Covering over 40 years in the life of a single family, this is one of the most robust and rewarding DVDs I've watched in a spell.
agreed on these two counts.
rw: The Yeti recommends... (dYeti)
Pandora Internet Radio: Here's how Pandora works. You tell it an artist or song you like; it pulls tracks with similar styles from its database, adds them to your playlist, and streams the feed to you as a customized radio station. I'd dabbled with Pandora a few times in the past but never really saw the point: why not just listen to a radio station you enjoy instead of building one from scratch? But then I plugged the aforementioned Bitter:Sweet in there and discovered a host of similar bands. It's more of a super-sophisticated recommendation engine than radio station, but I've found an astounding amount of great music using it.If you decide to register, you check out my dy Mix.
The Best of Youth: Netflix was insistent in suggesting The Best of Youth, putting a shooting star aside the title and giving it permanent slot atop my recommendation page. I was skeptical: you see my five star ratings for "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Barton Fink" and think I'm going to enjoy a six-hour Italian soap opera? I eventually ordered the film just to get Netflix to shut up about it, and, oh my, it's sublime. Covering over 40 years in the life of a single family, this is one of the most robust and rewarding DVDs I've watched in a spell.
agreed on these two counts.
- World - Times Online:
The letter was published as it was disclosed that Fraulein Kampusch would be entitled to EUR 664,900 (about GBP 450,000) in compensation from the Austrian criminal injuries compensation board. In addition, all the costs for her medical and psychiatric care, are being paid by the city of Vienna.
in this sort of situation in the US, wld the govt here do similarly?
Translation of Natascha Kampusch's letter
Kidnap girl sues to seize abductor's home
The letter was published as it was disclosed that Fraulein Kampusch would be entitled to EUR 664,900 (about GBP 450,000) in compensation from the Austrian criminal injuries compensation board. In addition, all the costs for her medical and psychiatric care, are being paid by the city of Vienna.
in this sort of situation in the US, wld the govt here do similarly?
Translation of Natascha Kampusch's letter
Kidnap girl sues to seize abductor's home
Monday, August 28, 2006
There were actually only 12 people that grabbed the Snakes on a Plane meme, but they were everywhere. :)
posted by Malor at 4:57 PM PST on August 27 cute.
...what was the meme?
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YouTube is kinda making William Gibson's "Pattern Recognition" look amazingly prophetic.
posted by davebush at 4:50 PM hmm look at.
As davebush noted, once again Gibson was there first.
=az - our heroine Cayce Pollard--a soothsaying "cool hunter" with an allergy to brand names-- is among a cult-like group of Internet obsessives that strives to find meaning and patterns within a mysterious collection of video moments, merely called "the footage," let loose onto the Internet by an unknown source. Her hobby and work collide when a megalomaniac client hires her to track down whoever is behind the footage. Cayce's quest will take her in and out of harm's way in a high-stakes game that ultimately coincides with her desire to reconcile her father’s disappearance during the September 11 attacks in New York.Although he forgoes his usual future-think tactics, this is very much a William Gibson novel, more so for fans who realize that Gibson's brilliance lies not in constructing new futures but in using astute observations of present-day cultural flotsam to create those futures. With Pattern Recognition, Gibson skips the extrapolation and focuses his acumen on our confusing contemporary world, using the precocious Pollard to personify and humanize the uncertain anxiety, optimistic hope, and downright fear many feel when looking to the future. -Jeremy Pugh good.
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The Brian Flemming aspect would be fascinating if it was intended to called out as "fake" from the beginning, and his own criticism is part of the fiction.
posted by bobo123 at 9:24 PM PST yup yup. all downhill from that possibility, now.
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posted by Malor at 4:57 PM PST on August 27 cute.
...what was the meme?
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YouTube is kinda making William Gibson's "Pattern Recognition" look amazingly prophetic.
posted by davebush at 4:50 PM hmm look at.
As davebush noted, once again Gibson was there first.
=az - our heroine Cayce Pollard--a soothsaying "cool hunter" with an allergy to brand names-- is among a cult-like group of Internet obsessives that strives to find meaning and patterns within a mysterious collection of video moments, merely called "the footage," let loose onto the Internet by an unknown source. Her hobby and work collide when a megalomaniac client hires her to track down whoever is behind the footage. Cayce's quest will take her in and out of harm's way in a high-stakes game that ultimately coincides with her desire to reconcile her father’s disappearance during the September 11 attacks in New York.Although he forgoes his usual future-think tactics, this is very much a William Gibson novel, more so for fans who realize that Gibson's brilliance lies not in constructing new futures but in using astute observations of present-day cultural flotsam to create those futures. With Pattern Recognition, Gibson skips the extrapolation and focuses his acumen on our confusing contemporary world, using the precocious Pollard to personify and humanize the uncertain anxiety, optimistic hope, and downright fear many feel when looking to the future. -Jeremy Pugh good.
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The Brian Flemming aspect would be fascinating if it was intended to called out as "fake" from the beginning, and his own criticism is part of the fiction.
posted by bobo123 at 9:24 PM PST yup yup. all downhill from that possibility, now.
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Shit. I meant "Virginia," of course.
posted by cgc373 at 5:39 PM PST on August 27 funny (short word full stop)
posted by cgc373 at 5:39 PM PST on August 27 funny (short word full stop)
It's so obvious that she's acting. I mean, isn't it? SO obvious.
posted by iconomy at 8:07 PM PST on August 27 yes
posted by iconomy at 8:07 PM PST on August 27 yes
It's obvious that she's performing, iconomy, but most of the YouTube recordings of people dancing to music videos or reading off their journals or whatever are also performances. Whether it's scripted and financed by somebody is really the question here.
posted by cgc373 at 8:10 PM PST on August 27 sure
Okay. On my previous post I hadn't been able to get the "hiking" video loaded. Nope. Fake. Done.
posted by Navelgazer at 5:52 PM P
-I'd hit that - you want fries with that?
-these videos ... they vibrate? what's the original of this? these pancakes -
-on the level
lonelygirl15: fact or fiction? | MetaFilter
posted by cgc373 at 8:10 PM PST on August 27 sure
Okay. On my previous post I hadn't been able to get the "hiking" video loaded. Nope. Fake. Done.
posted by Navelgazer at 5:52 PM P
-I'd hit that - you want fries with that?
-these videos ... they vibrate? what's the original of this? these pancakes -
-on the level
lonelygirl15: fact or fiction? | MetaFilter
Brian Flemming's Weblog: To be clear: I am not involved in any way in LG15, other than as an outside observer. I have no connection to Bree or Daniel or any other performers or creators of the LG15 phenomenon. When I made the comment, I had no intention of soliciting the speculation that has resulted, and I am surprised to see that it happened. Frankly, the last thing I want is publicity for Danielle when it's far too early for it to do any good for the project. That's why I'm trying to be an unequivocal as I can be about this: I am not involved in any way. Absolutely no involvement whatsoever.
Would this be a good time to mention that principal photography on Danielle hasn't even begun yet? No, money isn't the problem. Casting is. You can see on the IMDb page that some roles have been cast, but we haven't found the right Danielle yet. (And don't think it hasn't crossed my mind that Bree could be a potentially good Danielle. But also don't read anything into that, please.) I'm not going to go into production until I'm sure we have the right performer for the lead role. That's why there is no release date for the film. (And it definitely won't be November 2006. I don't know where that rumor came from.)
well it was a fun idea though.
so. square one?
other ready hypoth is that youtube behind it ~ recently started advertising? ~ so this would be marketing for youtube itself ~
Would this be a good time to mention that principal photography on Danielle hasn't even begun yet? No, money isn't the problem. Casting is. You can see on the IMDb page that some roles have been cast, but we haven't found the right Danielle yet. (And don't think it hasn't crossed my mind that Bree could be a potentially good Danielle. But also don't read anything into that, please.) I'm not going to go into production until I'm sure we have the right performer for the lead role. That's why there is no release date for the film. (And it definitely won't be November 2006. I don't know where that rumor came from.)
well it was a fun idea though.
so. square one?
other ready hypoth is that youtube behind it ~ recently started advertising? ~ so this would be marketing for youtube itself ~
Hi, me-10-years-ago. I've been hoping to run into you.You have everything you've always wanted, but you're still not happy? Winnicott ~ false self? Time to re-evaluate what you want. Some folks call it a mid-life crisis, but that seems rather reductive. sure.
I sort of cruised through my first 30 years, not ever really deciding what to do, just taking whatever came along. Unfortunately, that included the woman I was married to. Sure, we basically got a long, and we more-or-less liked doing the same things, but I never really chose to be with her. It just sort of happened. After 10 years of marriage, I realized I never really liked her that much, and I left. Sure, it was a bit more complicated than that, but that’s the gist.Since then, I’ve taken a lot more risks, made a lot more deliberate decisions to go after what I really wanted. I’ve changed and altered and re-evaluated and shifted what I wanted during that time, but I’ve ended up at a pretty good place. I’m married again (to someone else, natch), I have an almost completely different circle of friends (who I do see a lot), have gotten a home and a car and a good job and all that, and am, for maybe the first time in my life, happy with where I am.You say you’ve been to a psychologist. You should consider going to another one, one who will help you figure things out. If you’re in the DC area, I can suggest one. huh, in DC huh. The good news is that you’re doing this early—a lot of folks don’t do the mid-life crisis thing until much later in life, and lose a lot more time. righto. posted by MrMoonPie at 11:15 AM
and here's what seals the deal that I am with MrMoon on this:
I don't want to poo-poo what everyone else has said about religion, taking up a hobby, studying philosophy, volunteering, etc., but they did not work for me. They might work for you, and, if they do, great. But I tried all of that, including the stuff about how I should just learn to accept that what I had was, in fact, as good as I could expect life to be. I'm actually less active in such things than I was when I was 30, mainly because I'm not looking to avoid my otherwise bleak existence or fill any voids. I'm now happy with who I am and what I have, and I don't need the philosophy, religion, hobbies, walks in the woods, etc. Again, though, try them first--making a small change here and there will be much easier than making the sort of radical change I did. But, please, do whatever you need to so that you aren't here 10 years from now asking the same question. When I was 30, contemplating turning my life upside down, that's what kept me from being complacent. I turned 40 last month, and my only wish was that I'm as happy at 80 as I am now.posted by MrMoonPie at 12:25 PM
MrMoonPie! =blogspot. post re early august DC meet-up. omiewise not involved?
Lust, ein Video zu drehen? - Generation Webcam
Von Bertram Eisenhauer
10. August 2006
Also. Entweder wir hängen die Sache hoch, dann müssen wir von dem französischen Poststrukturalisten Michel Foucault reden und von dem, was er „Technologien des Selbst“ nannte. Oder wir hängen die Sache wesentlich niedriger, dann geht es um ein Mädchen und einen Jungen aus Amerika und darum, was die beiden im Zimmer des Mädchens machen. Was darf's sein? - Dachte ich mir.
Bree also, so heißt das Mädchen, meldet sich alle drei, vier Tage. Sie plaudert ein wenig über Hausaufgaben und Bücher, die sie gelesen hat, oder über ihre Stofftiere. Bei anderer Gelegenheit erzählt die Sechzehnjährige, sie sei heute in einer eher melancholischen Stimmung; zuerst will sie nicht so recht mit dem Grund dafür heraus, dann gesteht sie, sie habe Streit mit den Eltern. Die hatten ihr zum Beispiel schon mal verboten, auf einen Ausflug zu gehen mit einem gewissen Daniel, dem bereits erwähnten Jungen; sie hatte sich so darauf gefreut, sogar Eiersalat-Sandwiches vorbereitet, aber für eine Weile sah es so aus, als ob Daniel gar nicht mehr vorbeikommen dürfe.
340.000 Klicks für Bushs Massage
Wenn das nun klingt, als stünden Bree und ich uns nahe: Tun wir nicht. Ihre kleinen, für den Lauf der Welt zumeist irrelevanten Vertraulichkeiten teilt Bree nämlich per Videobotschaft mit bis zu 500.000 weiteren Benutzern der Web-Site „YouTube“ (zu deutsch „DuGlotze“); dort kennt man sie vor allem unter dem Log-in „lonelygirl15“. „Broadcast Yourself“ ist das zweideutige Motto dieser sogenannten Video-Community: „Mach dein eigenes Programm“ - und zugleich „Mach dich selbst zum Programm“. Täglich, so rechnet YouTube vor, stellen User 35.000 neue Video-Clips von höchstens zehn Minuten Dauer auf die im Frühjahr 2005 gestartete Internet-Plattform; zwischen 40 und 100 Millionen Mal werde Tag für Tag eines der Filmchen heruntergeladen.
Es ist ein gigantischer Videoschnipsel-Basar des globalen Dorfes, auf dem sich Nachrichtensendungen ebenso wiederfinden wie experimentelle Heimproduktionen von bisweilen erstaunlicher Qualität, rätselhafte japanische Fernsehshows ebenso wie Stefan Raab und Harald Schmidt, reguläre Musik-Clips ebenso wie deren Parodien. Zwei junge Asiaten in Basketball-Hemden etwa waren mit ihrer extravaganten Playback-Version des Backstreet-Boys-Liedes „I Want It That Way“, mit einfachsten Mitteln erstellt, wochenlang die Helden des Web. Und die Aufnahmen von der Rückenmassage, mit der George W. Bush Angela Merkel jüngst beim G-8-Treffen überraschte - belästigte, wie manche meinen -, finden sich bei YouTube in fast 50 Versionen; eine davon erreichte mehr als 340.000 Klicks.
Ein bißchen merkwürdig, daß er zusieht
Besonders stimuliert hat die buchstäblich kinderleichte digitale Technik den Bekenntnisdrang der Generation Webcam. „lonelygirl15“ findet offenbar gar nichts dabei, ein Video ins Netz zu stellen, in dem sie, mit wirkungsvoll niedergeschlagenem Blick aus ihren großen haselnußdunklen Augen, von einem „merkwürdigen“ Moment mit Daniel - als „danielbeast“ übrigens ebenfalls online - berichtet. Er hilft ihr beim Schnitt und war oft zeitschriftenlesend im Hintergrund ihrer Filme zu sehen gewesen; nun hatte er ein Video zusammengestellt, in dem Bree - von der Natur ohnehin mit einer vorteilhaften Knochenstruktur gesegnet - dank zahlreicher Zeitlupenbilder aussah wie die Teenager-Ausgabe von „Friends“-Star Jennifer Anniston, das kokette Die-Haare-aus-der-Stirn-Streichen eingeschlossen.
Und weil so viele ihrer Zuschauer sie darauf angesprochen hätten, erzählt „lonelygirl15“ weiter, habe sie Daniel einfach gefragt, ob er sie vielleicht, na ja, am Ende gern habe; er habe entgegnet, na ja, eigentlich schon und so. „Und was auch ein bißchen merkwürdig ist an der Sache: daß Daniel jetzt vermutlich zusieht.“ Ein leichtes Lächeln in die Linse: „Hi, Daniel.“
Naivität und Medienkompetenz
Wenig überraschend, daß dieses Video mit gut 568.000 Klicks die höchste Einschaltquote aller bisherigen Episoden um das „einsame Mädchen“ erreichte. Die Fusion aus Naivität und Medienkompetenz, aus Intimität und Zuschauerbeteiligung: einfach unwiderstehlich. (Michel Foucault würde sagen, der Benutzer werde da Zeuge einer jener Praktiken, „mit denen die Menschen aus ihrem Leben ein Werk zu machen suchen, das gewisse ästhetische Werte trägt und gewissen Stilkriterien entspricht“, aber davon wollten Sie ja nichts hören.)
Selbstredend gibt es neben jenen, die „lonelygirl15“ niedlich finden und ihre kleinen Fortsetzungsdramen immer wieder aufsuchen, solche, die sie eine „weinerliche Kuh“ und Schlimmeres schimpfen. Auch sie haben es recht einfach: Mit ihrer eigenen Webkamera und ein bißchen Software läßt sich im Handumdrehen ein Videokommentar zu den neuesten Kapriolen von „lonelygirl15“ erstellen - oder auch eine Satire, wie jene des Benutzers „fortey“, der sich über ihren Kleinmädchenton lustig machte, inklusive ihrer überdeutlichen traurigen Ausatmer.
Beinahe shakespearehaft
Besonders treffen muß das Webcam-Girl indes ein Verdacht: Sie sei eine Schwindlerin, älter, als sie angebe, keine Amateurin, sondern eine Professionelle, eine Schauspielerin auf der Jagd nach einem Fernsehauftritt womöglich. Sie wäre nicht das erste Talent, das sich bei YouTube für Größeres empfohlen hätte; auch die „New York Times“ mahnte bereits halbironisch: „Gibt jemand in Breitband-Hollywood ,lonelygirl15' endlich ihre eigene Sendung?“
Einer der „lonelygirl15“-Kritiker etwa - „gohepcat“ nennt er sich und tritt mit verspiegelter Sonnenbrille und Strohcowboyhut vor die eigene Kamera - empfindet sie denn auch als charmant, aber „ein bißchen zu perfekt“. Der „dramatische Bogen“ der Geschichte um Bree und Daniel sei „beinahe shakespearehaft“, ihre angeblich spontanen Kommentare klängen wie nach Drehbuch, sie sei zu gut ausgeleuchtet. Wieso habe, so fragt er zudem, jemand schon einen Monat vor Brees erstem Auftritt bei YouTube die Adresse lonelygirl15.com für eine Fan-Web-Site registrieren lassen? Zusammenfassend findet aber auch „gohepcat“: „Wenn es komplett gefälscht ist, ist es brillant.“ Ein anderer YouTube-Nutzer kommentierte: „Es ist egal, ob es gefälscht ist oder nicht. Es ist Unterhaltung, wie Fernsehen.“
Vielleicht ahnen ja auch „lonelygirl15“ und „danielbeast“, wie virtuell ihr Ruhm sein könnte. Nachdem sie die erste öffentliche Krise ihrer Beziehung - die im übrigen noch immer nicht eindeutig bestimmt ist - hinter sich gebracht hatten, stellten sie ein Video online, das Bree am Telefon zeigte. Darunter eingeblendet der Wortlaut des Gesprächs, das angeblich die ersehnte Klärung der Lage herbeiführte:- Was machst du nachher?- Nix Besonderes.- Lust, ein Video zu drehen?- Worüber?- Weiß nicht. Dieses Telefonat?- Wäre das nicht langweilig?- Oh. Ja.
Text: Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung, 06.08.2006, Nr. 31 / Seite 10Bildmaterial: YouTube - lonelygirl 15 - danielbeast, YouTube - lonelygirl15 - danielbeast, YouTube- lonelygirl15 - danielbeast
photo captions include:
-"Eltern sind doof"
-Die Teenagerversion von Jennifer Aniston
-Und alle fragen sich: Was macht Daniel auf Brees Bett?
Generation Webcam: Lust, ein Video zu drehen? - FAZ.NET
Von Bertram Eisenhauer
10. August 2006
Also. Entweder wir hängen die Sache hoch, dann müssen wir von dem französischen Poststrukturalisten Michel Foucault reden und von dem, was er „Technologien des Selbst“ nannte. Oder wir hängen die Sache wesentlich niedriger, dann geht es um ein Mädchen und einen Jungen aus Amerika und darum, was die beiden im Zimmer des Mädchens machen. Was darf's sein? - Dachte ich mir.
Bree also, so heißt das Mädchen, meldet sich alle drei, vier Tage. Sie plaudert ein wenig über Hausaufgaben und Bücher, die sie gelesen hat, oder über ihre Stofftiere. Bei anderer Gelegenheit erzählt die Sechzehnjährige, sie sei heute in einer eher melancholischen Stimmung; zuerst will sie nicht so recht mit dem Grund dafür heraus, dann gesteht sie, sie habe Streit mit den Eltern. Die hatten ihr zum Beispiel schon mal verboten, auf einen Ausflug zu gehen mit einem gewissen Daniel, dem bereits erwähnten Jungen; sie hatte sich so darauf gefreut, sogar Eiersalat-Sandwiches vorbereitet, aber für eine Weile sah es so aus, als ob Daniel gar nicht mehr vorbeikommen dürfe.
340.000 Klicks für Bushs Massage
Wenn das nun klingt, als stünden Bree und ich uns nahe: Tun wir nicht. Ihre kleinen, für den Lauf der Welt zumeist irrelevanten Vertraulichkeiten teilt Bree nämlich per Videobotschaft mit bis zu 500.000 weiteren Benutzern der Web-Site „YouTube“ (zu deutsch „DuGlotze“); dort kennt man sie vor allem unter dem Log-in „lonelygirl15“. „Broadcast Yourself“ ist das zweideutige Motto dieser sogenannten Video-Community: „Mach dein eigenes Programm“ - und zugleich „Mach dich selbst zum Programm“. Täglich, so rechnet YouTube vor, stellen User 35.000 neue Video-Clips von höchstens zehn Minuten Dauer auf die im Frühjahr 2005 gestartete Internet-Plattform; zwischen 40 und 100 Millionen Mal werde Tag für Tag eines der Filmchen heruntergeladen.
Es ist ein gigantischer Videoschnipsel-Basar des globalen Dorfes, auf dem sich Nachrichtensendungen ebenso wiederfinden wie experimentelle Heimproduktionen von bisweilen erstaunlicher Qualität, rätselhafte japanische Fernsehshows ebenso wie Stefan Raab und Harald Schmidt, reguläre Musik-Clips ebenso wie deren Parodien. Zwei junge Asiaten in Basketball-Hemden etwa waren mit ihrer extravaganten Playback-Version des Backstreet-Boys-Liedes „I Want It That Way“, mit einfachsten Mitteln erstellt, wochenlang die Helden des Web. Und die Aufnahmen von der Rückenmassage, mit der George W. Bush Angela Merkel jüngst beim G-8-Treffen überraschte - belästigte, wie manche meinen -, finden sich bei YouTube in fast 50 Versionen; eine davon erreichte mehr als 340.000 Klicks.
Ein bißchen merkwürdig, daß er zusieht
Besonders stimuliert hat die buchstäblich kinderleichte digitale Technik den Bekenntnisdrang der Generation Webcam. „lonelygirl15“ findet offenbar gar nichts dabei, ein Video ins Netz zu stellen, in dem sie, mit wirkungsvoll niedergeschlagenem Blick aus ihren großen haselnußdunklen Augen, von einem „merkwürdigen“ Moment mit Daniel - als „danielbeast“ übrigens ebenfalls online - berichtet. Er hilft ihr beim Schnitt und war oft zeitschriftenlesend im Hintergrund ihrer Filme zu sehen gewesen; nun hatte er ein Video zusammengestellt, in dem Bree - von der Natur ohnehin mit einer vorteilhaften Knochenstruktur gesegnet - dank zahlreicher Zeitlupenbilder aussah wie die Teenager-Ausgabe von „Friends“-Star Jennifer Anniston, das kokette Die-Haare-aus-der-Stirn-Streichen eingeschlossen.
Und weil so viele ihrer Zuschauer sie darauf angesprochen hätten, erzählt „lonelygirl15“ weiter, habe sie Daniel einfach gefragt, ob er sie vielleicht, na ja, am Ende gern habe; er habe entgegnet, na ja, eigentlich schon und so. „Und was auch ein bißchen merkwürdig ist an der Sache: daß Daniel jetzt vermutlich zusieht.“ Ein leichtes Lächeln in die Linse: „Hi, Daniel.“
Naivität und Medienkompetenz
Wenig überraschend, daß dieses Video mit gut 568.000 Klicks die höchste Einschaltquote aller bisherigen Episoden um das „einsame Mädchen“ erreichte. Die Fusion aus Naivität und Medienkompetenz, aus Intimität und Zuschauerbeteiligung: einfach unwiderstehlich. (Michel Foucault würde sagen, der Benutzer werde da Zeuge einer jener Praktiken, „mit denen die Menschen aus ihrem Leben ein Werk zu machen suchen, das gewisse ästhetische Werte trägt und gewissen Stilkriterien entspricht“, aber davon wollten Sie ja nichts hören.)
Selbstredend gibt es neben jenen, die „lonelygirl15“ niedlich finden und ihre kleinen Fortsetzungsdramen immer wieder aufsuchen, solche, die sie eine „weinerliche Kuh“ und Schlimmeres schimpfen. Auch sie haben es recht einfach: Mit ihrer eigenen Webkamera und ein bißchen Software läßt sich im Handumdrehen ein Videokommentar zu den neuesten Kapriolen von „lonelygirl15“ erstellen - oder auch eine Satire, wie jene des Benutzers „fortey“, der sich über ihren Kleinmädchenton lustig machte, inklusive ihrer überdeutlichen traurigen Ausatmer.
Beinahe shakespearehaft
Besonders treffen muß das Webcam-Girl indes ein Verdacht: Sie sei eine Schwindlerin, älter, als sie angebe, keine Amateurin, sondern eine Professionelle, eine Schauspielerin auf der Jagd nach einem Fernsehauftritt womöglich. Sie wäre nicht das erste Talent, das sich bei YouTube für Größeres empfohlen hätte; auch die „New York Times“ mahnte bereits halbironisch: „Gibt jemand in Breitband-Hollywood ,lonelygirl15' endlich ihre eigene Sendung?“
Einer der „lonelygirl15“-Kritiker etwa - „gohepcat“ nennt er sich und tritt mit verspiegelter Sonnenbrille und Strohcowboyhut vor die eigene Kamera - empfindet sie denn auch als charmant, aber „ein bißchen zu perfekt“. Der „dramatische Bogen“ der Geschichte um Bree und Daniel sei „beinahe shakespearehaft“, ihre angeblich spontanen Kommentare klängen wie nach Drehbuch, sie sei zu gut ausgeleuchtet. Wieso habe, so fragt er zudem, jemand schon einen Monat vor Brees erstem Auftritt bei YouTube die Adresse lonelygirl15.com für eine Fan-Web-Site registrieren lassen? Zusammenfassend findet aber auch „gohepcat“: „Wenn es komplett gefälscht ist, ist es brillant.“ Ein anderer YouTube-Nutzer kommentierte: „Es ist egal, ob es gefälscht ist oder nicht. Es ist Unterhaltung, wie Fernsehen.“
Vielleicht ahnen ja auch „lonelygirl15“ und „danielbeast“, wie virtuell ihr Ruhm sein könnte. Nachdem sie die erste öffentliche Krise ihrer Beziehung - die im übrigen noch immer nicht eindeutig bestimmt ist - hinter sich gebracht hatten, stellten sie ein Video online, das Bree am Telefon zeigte. Darunter eingeblendet der Wortlaut des Gesprächs, das angeblich die ersehnte Klärung der Lage herbeiführte:- Was machst du nachher?- Nix Besonderes.- Lust, ein Video zu drehen?- Worüber?- Weiß nicht. Dieses Telefonat?- Wäre das nicht langweilig?- Oh. Ja.
Text: Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung, 06.08.2006, Nr. 31 / Seite 10Bildmaterial: YouTube - lonelygirl 15 - danielbeast, YouTube - lonelygirl15 - danielbeast, YouTube- lonelygirl15 - danielbeast
photo captions include:
-"Eltern sind doof"
-Die Teenagerversion von Jennifer Aniston
-Und alle fragen sich: Was macht Daniel auf Brees Bett?
Generation Webcam: Lust, ein Video zu drehen? - FAZ.NET
Guten tag, Deutchland! Well ain't this a geographical oddity?
Germany has latched onto the Lonelygirl15 phenomenon and the debates over whether she's a hoax, scam, fake, authentic, real, or any other adjective one might use to bump up search results. right.
The Frankfurt General Frankfurt Allgemeine Sunday paper Zeitung FAZ had this to say about what has clearly become an obsession for those of us at EW: translation courtesy the Babelfish [Edit: Babelfish sucked at translating this, I ended up doing it myself] hmm still looks awfully auto translated. wh, fine with me, I like it raw.
HEADING: Fair of the privacies; The generation Webcam has a new star: "lonelygirl15". Only: Is it also authentic? Aber: Ist es also wahr? well authentic prob another word. the also is what I am trying the sound of.
TEXT: OF von BERTRAM EISENHAUER FRANKFURT.
Thus. Either we hang it high, then we must talk about the French Poststructuralist Michel Foucault and about what he called "technologies of the self". Or we hang the thing substantially lower, which makes it about a girl and a boy, a matter out of America and around it, which the two make in the room of the girl. What darf's its? - imagined I.
Bree thus, the girl, announces herself every three, four days. Sh chats little over homework and books, which it read. At other times the sixteen-year-old girl, shows a a rather melancholischen tendency; first she doesn't want to talk about it, then confesses a controversy with her parents. Those parents had already forbidden, for example, going on a trip going with a certain Daniel, to the boy already mentioned; she had prepared for it, even Eiersalat [Egg Salad?] Sandwiches in such a way, but for one while it looked in such a way, as if Daniel was not allowed to go any further. If now sounds, as if Bree and I would be close to us.
Bree divides their small mostly privacies -- irrelevant for most of the world -- by video message with up to 500,000 further users of the Web Site "YouTube" (in German "DuGlotze"); here she goes by the name "lonelygirl15". "Broadcast Yourself" is the ambiguous slogan of this so-called video Community: "Make your own promo" - and at the same time "Make you to the promo [?]". Daily, then YouTube enumerates, places 35,000 new videos of at the most ten minutes duration. in spring 2005 they started the InterNet platform; between 40 and 100 million downloadeds a day for day one the Filmchen. It is a gigantic video chip bazaar of the global village, on which newscasts appear, likewise, like experimental home productions of sometimes amazing quality, puzzling Japanese television shows just like Stefan Raab and Harald Schmidt, regular music clips just like their Parodies. Two young Asians in basketball shirts about were with their extravaganten Playback version of the Backstreet Boys song "I want It That Way", with simplest means provided, for weeks the heroes of the Web and the photographs of the Rueckenmassage, with the George W. Bush Angela Merkel recently with the G-8-Treffen surprised - troubled, like some mean -, are with YouTube in nearly 50 versions; of it reached more than 340,000 clicks.
Particularly the literally very easy digital technology stimulated the confession urge of the generation Webcam. "lonelygirl15" does not find obviously nothing at all to place a video in the net in that she, with effectively struck down view from her large haselnussdunklen eyes, from a "strange" moment with Daniel - as likewise on-line "danielbeast" - reported. He helps to see her with the cut and in the background of their films had been magazine-reading often; now it had included a video arranged, in which Bree - a beauty of nature with a favourable bone structure anyway - looked owing to numerous slow motion pictures like the expenditure for the rodent [no idea -- but i love it] of "Friends" star Jennifer Anniston, the kokette the hair out the front capers. And because so many of their spectators would have addressed it on it, told "lonelygirl15" further, asked it Daniel simply whether he has her perhaps, well, at the end gladly; it answered, well, actually already and so. "and which also a little is strange at the thing: that Daniel probably watches now." An easy smile into the lens: "good one, Daniel."
Little surprising that this video with well 568,000 Klicks achieved the highest ratingses of all past episodes around the "lonely girl". The fusion of Naivite and authority, from Intimacy and spectator participation: simply irresistible. (Michel Foucault would say, the user there a witness of one of those practices, "with those humans from its life a work to make would seek, which carries certain aesthetic values and corresponds to certain style criteria", but of it you wanted to hear nothing.) Naturally there are such, which grumble her a "weinerliche cow" and worse beside those, which find "lonelygirl15" nice and visit its small continuation dramas again and again. Also they have it quite simply: With its own Web camera and little software can be provided in the hand turning a video comment to the newest Kapriolen of "lonelygirl15" - or also a satire, as those of the user "fortey", who made itself merry over their small girl clay/tone, including their over-clear sad Ausatmer.
Particularly to meet the Webcam Girl must meanwhile a suspicion: It is not a Schwindlerin, older, than it indicates, Amateur, but a professional one, an actress on the hunt for a television appearance possibly. It would not be the first talent, that would have been recommended with YouTube for larger; also the "New York Times" reminded already halfironically: "does someone give its own transmission to lonelygirl15 in broadband Hollywood, ' finally?" One the "lonelygirl15"-Kritiks- "gohepcat" steps themselves with verspiegelter sun glasses and straw cowboy hat before the own camera - feels it also as charming, but "a little too perfectly". The "dramatic elbow" of history around Bree and Daniel is, their allegedly spontaneous comments would sound "almost shakespearehaft" as after film script, it is too well illuminated. Why have, he asks, someone one month before Brees first appearance with YouTube register the address lonelygirl15.com for a fan Web Site? In addition, in summary finds "gohepcat": "if it is completely falsified, is brilliant." Another YouTube user commentated: "it is no matter whether it is falsified or not. It is maintenance, like television." Perhaps also "lonelygirl15" suspects and "danielbeast", how virtual its fame could be. After they the first public crisis of their relationship - which is in all other respects not yet clearly certain - behind itself had brought, placed it a video on-line, which showed Bree at the telephone. Faded in among them the wording of the discussion, which caused allegedly desired clarifying of the situation: - which you make afterwards? - Nix special. - desire to turn a video? - about what? - white not. This telephone call? - wouldn't that be boring? - Oh. Yes.
ah found the article: Generation Webcam: Lust, ein Video zu drehen? - FAZ.NET
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The debate rages at Wikipedia over whether or not Lonelygirl15 should have an entry in the online encyclopedia. If you have an account, please go to the Deletion Review and chime in (preferably supporting Undelete) about the matter. It blows my mind how many Wikipedia editors think this is a non-issue, despite the fact that GERMANS ARE WRITING ABOUT IT AND SENDING IT THROUGH THE MICHEL FOUCAULT WRINGER.
Germany has latched onto the Lonelygirl15 phenomenon and the debates over whether she's a hoax, scam, fake, authentic, real, or any other adjective one might use to bump up search results. right.
The Frankfurt General Frankfurt Allgemeine Sunday paper Zeitung FAZ had this to say about what has clearly become an obsession for those of us at EW: translation courtesy the Babelfish [Edit: Babelfish sucked at translating this, I ended up doing it myself] hmm still looks awfully auto translated. wh, fine with me, I like it raw.
HEADING: Fair of the privacies; The generation Webcam has a new star: "lonelygirl15". Only: Is it also authentic? Aber: Ist es also wahr? well authentic prob another word. the also is what I am trying the sound of.
TEXT: OF von BERTRAM EISENHAUER FRANKFURT.
Thus. Either we hang it high, then we must talk about the French Poststructuralist Michel Foucault and about what he called "technologies of the self". Or we hang the thing substantially lower, which makes it about a girl and a boy, a matter out of America and around it, which the two make in the room of the girl. What darf's its? - imagined I.
Bree thus, the girl, announces herself every three, four days. Sh chats little over homework and books, which it read. At other times the sixteen-year-old girl, shows a a rather melancholischen tendency; first she doesn't want to talk about it, then confesses a controversy with her parents. Those parents had already forbidden, for example, going on a trip going with a certain Daniel, to the boy already mentioned; she had prepared for it, even Eiersalat [Egg Salad?] Sandwiches in such a way, but for one while it looked in such a way, as if Daniel was not allowed to go any further. If now sounds, as if Bree and I would be close to us.
Bree divides their small mostly privacies -- irrelevant for most of the world -- by video message with up to 500,000 further users of the Web Site "YouTube" (in German "DuGlotze"); here she goes by the name "lonelygirl15". "Broadcast Yourself" is the ambiguous slogan of this so-called video Community: "Make your own promo" - and at the same time "Make you to the promo [?]". Daily, then YouTube enumerates, places 35,000 new videos of at the most ten minutes duration. in spring 2005 they started the InterNet platform; between 40 and 100 million downloadeds a day for day one the Filmchen. It is a gigantic video chip bazaar of the global village, on which newscasts appear, likewise, like experimental home productions of sometimes amazing quality, puzzling Japanese television shows just like Stefan Raab and Harald Schmidt, regular music clips just like their Parodies. Two young Asians in basketball shirts about were with their extravaganten Playback version of the Backstreet Boys song "I want It That Way", with simplest means provided, for weeks the heroes of the Web and the photographs of the Rueckenmassage, with the George W. Bush Angela Merkel recently with the G-8-Treffen surprised - troubled, like some mean -, are with YouTube in nearly 50 versions; of it reached more than 340,000 clicks.
Particularly the literally very easy digital technology stimulated the confession urge of the generation Webcam. "lonelygirl15" does not find obviously nothing at all to place a video in the net in that she, with effectively struck down view from her large haselnussdunklen eyes, from a "strange" moment with Daniel - as likewise on-line "danielbeast" - reported. He helps to see her with the cut and in the background of their films had been magazine-reading often; now it had included a video arranged, in which Bree - a beauty of nature with a favourable bone structure anyway - looked owing to numerous slow motion pictures like the expenditure for the rodent [no idea -- but i love it] of "Friends" star Jennifer Anniston, the kokette the hair out the front capers. And because so many of their spectators would have addressed it on it, told "lonelygirl15" further, asked it Daniel simply whether he has her perhaps, well, at the end gladly; it answered, well, actually already and so. "and which also a little is strange at the thing: that Daniel probably watches now." An easy smile into the lens: "good one, Daniel."
Little surprising that this video with well 568,000 Klicks achieved the highest ratingses of all past episodes around the "lonely girl". The fusion of Naivite and authority, from Intimacy and spectator participation: simply irresistible. (Michel Foucault would say, the user there a witness of one of those practices, "with those humans from its life a work to make would seek, which carries certain aesthetic values and corresponds to certain style criteria", but of it you wanted to hear nothing.) Naturally there are such, which grumble her a "weinerliche cow" and worse beside those, which find "lonelygirl15" nice and visit its small continuation dramas again and again. Also they have it quite simply: With its own Web camera and little software can be provided in the hand turning a video comment to the newest Kapriolen of "lonelygirl15" - or also a satire, as those of the user "fortey", who made itself merry over their small girl clay/tone, including their over-clear sad Ausatmer.
Particularly to meet the Webcam Girl must meanwhile a suspicion: It is not a Schwindlerin, older, than it indicates, Amateur, but a professional one, an actress on the hunt for a television appearance possibly. It would not be the first talent, that would have been recommended with YouTube for larger; also the "New York Times" reminded already halfironically: "does someone give its own transmission to lonelygirl15 in broadband Hollywood, ' finally?" One the "lonelygirl15"-Kritiks- "gohepcat" steps themselves with verspiegelter sun glasses and straw cowboy hat before the own camera - feels it also as charming, but "a little too perfectly". The "dramatic elbow" of history around Bree and Daniel is, their allegedly spontaneous comments would sound "almost shakespearehaft" as after film script, it is too well illuminated. Why have, he asks, someone one month before Brees first appearance with YouTube register the address lonelygirl15.com for a fan Web Site? In addition, in summary finds "gohepcat": "if it is completely falsified, is brilliant." Another YouTube user commentated: "it is no matter whether it is falsified or not. It is maintenance, like television." Perhaps also "lonelygirl15" suspects and "danielbeast", how virtual its fame could be. After they the first public crisis of their relationship - which is in all other respects not yet clearly certain - behind itself had brought, placed it a video on-line, which showed Bree at the telephone. Faded in among them the wording of the discussion, which caused allegedly desired clarifying of the situation: - which you make afterwards? - Nix special. - desire to turn a video? - about what? - white not. This telephone call? - wouldn't that be boring? - Oh. Yes.
ah found the article: Generation Webcam: Lust, ein Video zu drehen? - FAZ.NET
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The debate rages at Wikipedia over whether or not Lonelygirl15 should have an entry in the online encyclopedia. If you have an account, please go to the Deletion Review and chime in (preferably supporting Undelete) about the matter. It blows my mind how many Wikipedia editors think this is a non-issue, despite the fact that GERMANS ARE WRITING ABOUT IT AND SENDING IT THROUGH THE MICHEL FOUCAULT WRINGER.
Screens - Is the Debunker Also the Bunker?
Brian Flemming — fake doc-man nonpareil — might just know too much.
I’m late to say this, but he has an excellent analysis of lonelygirl15’s videos. indeed. huh.
But is it too excellent?*
Someone named “Bill Cosby,” on a break from his daily rounds preaching responsible fatherhood (or maybe — gasp! — he emailed me under a fake name!), has decided that Flemming is the big deus ex machina here. (Bill Cosby also goes by the name Xanax.)
*IMDb :: Boards :: Danielle (2007): Danielle is very much in the works, however. It's the story of a devout Christian high-school girl who comes into possession of evidence that Jesus never existed. This new title will help us focus attention on what the movie is actually about, and also appeal to one of the film's main target audiences -- people Danielle's age, who I think are important to reach with the message of the film. I hope to reveal more later in the year, as we work full-time on the film and generate some stories to tell.
end of Flemming's jumpstheshark post:
Adapting the epistolary novel form to YouTube still has some promise, however. I'm certainly ready to be fooled by another one. Or perhaps to perpetrate one.
Unless I really did perpetrate this one and I'm just trying to distance myself from it because it's now failing.
Just kidding. You know me. I'd never try to fool anybody like that. 11:26 AM
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-No idea if Flemming’s the guy–though the wording of his posts is certainly interesting. But the general idea that a small group of performers/filmmakers is behind it squares with some of what I’ve been hearing: http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/FineOnMedia/archiv es/2006/08/lonelygirl15_th_1.html?campaign_id=rss_blog_ fineonmedia
Brian Flemming — fake doc-man nonpareil — might just know too much.
I’m late to say this, but he has an excellent analysis of lonelygirl15’s videos. indeed. huh.
But is it too excellent?*
Someone named “Bill Cosby,” on a break from his daily rounds preaching responsible fatherhood (or maybe — gasp! — he emailed me under a fake name!), has decided that Flemming is the big deus ex machina here. (Bill Cosby also goes by the name Xanax.)
*IMDb :: Boards :: Danielle (2007): Danielle is very much in the works, however. It's the story of a devout Christian high-school girl who comes into possession of evidence that Jesus never existed. This new title will help us focus attention on what the movie is actually about, and also appeal to one of the film's main target audiences -- people Danielle's age, who I think are important to reach with the message of the film. I hope to reveal more later in the year, as we work full-time on the film and generate some stories to tell.
end of Flemming's jumpstheshark post:
Adapting the epistolary novel form to YouTube still has some promise, however. I'm certainly ready to be fooled by another one. Or perhaps to perpetrate one.
Unless I really did perpetrate this one and I'm just trying to distance myself from it because it's now failing.
Just kidding. You know me. I'd never try to fool anybody like that. 11:26 AM
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-No idea if Flemming’s the guy–though the wording of his posts is certainly interesting. But the general idea that a small group of performers/filmmakers is behind it squares with some of what I’ve been hearing: http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/FineOnMedia/archiv es/2006/08/lonelygirl15_th_1.html?campaign_id=rss_blog_ fineonmedia
= Judging from the comments of more than one person (and, though I'm sorry to add to the layers of murk here, each refused to talk to me if I quoted them), a likely scenario goes something like this: Lonelygirl15 is not "real," but, contrary to some early speculation, the videos are not part of a viral marketing campaign dreamed up by some major advertiser, nor some music marketing company, nor a promotional stunt set up by one of the Viacoms or NBCs of the world. Rather, it's the product of a coterie of smart and not-yet-massively-famous performers (and, perhaps, others). These people, or their representatives, have had discussions with at least one major company regarding a deal to produce what I take to be short-form serial stuff on the Web. And said coterie may be closing in on (or has already gotten) representation from a major talent agency.
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Screens - Web Video - Virginia Heffernan - Arts - New York Times Blog: With television and the Internet converging at last, who's going to watch all this here-goes-nothing online video? Everything from political propaganda videos to pseudo-candid celebrity rants seems to expect an audience. 'Screens' will find, review and make sense of all those senseless new images:
web video, viral video, user-driven video, custom interactive video, embedded video ads, web-based VOD, broadband television, diavlogs, vcasts, vlogs, video podcasts, mobisodes, webisodes, mashups and more.
Screens - ‘…someone to talk to too lol’
-Corcaroli put it very well: “I do find it deeply, deeply weird that no one has come forward who knows these kids personally.” I was certain that by now the internet geek squads would have easily figured out this whole thing. Finding the fan site being registered before the videos were made has been the ONLY real leak.
Screens - A Pause for Some Words From Bree
-I’ll say this for her: She’s mastered the art of sticking to your talking points when dealing with the media. All the quotes she emailed to the (other) Times are versions of something she says in this email:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2319463,00.ht ml
I like how she discusses Occam’s Razor and the Treaty of Versailles with the Times of London, and Relativity and Yalta with us. I guess Occam doesn’t play in Peoria?
-i’m a 10 year old girl and even i’m not falling for this! cute. (really you're 10?)
-It’s fascinating to watch Wikipedians argue over Lonelygirl15’s worthiness to be included in their august web-tome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lonelygirl15
web video, viral video, user-driven video, custom interactive video, embedded video ads, web-based VOD, broadband television, diavlogs, vcasts, vlogs, video podcasts, mobisodes, webisodes, mashups and more.
Screens - ‘…someone to talk to too lol’
-Corcaroli put it very well: “I do find it deeply, deeply weird that no one has come forward who knows these kids personally.” I was certain that by now the internet geek squads would have easily figured out this whole thing. Finding the fan site being registered before the videos were made has been the ONLY real leak.
Screens - A Pause for Some Words From Bree
-I’ll say this for her: She’s mastered the art of sticking to your talking points when dealing with the media. All the quotes she emailed to the (other) Times are versions of something she says in this email:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2319463,00.ht ml
I like how she discusses Occam’s Razor and the Treaty of Versailles with the Times of London, and Relativity and Yalta with us. I guess Occam doesn’t play in Peoria?
-i’m a 10 year old girl and even i’m not falling for this! cute. (really you're 10?)
-It’s fascinating to watch Wikipedians argue over Lonelygirl15’s worthiness to be included in their august web-tome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lonelygirl15
She wants to believe
Virginia Heffernan on LG15.
Heffernan was able to get an email out of "Bree":
Virginia Heffernan on LG15.
Heffernan was able to get an email out of "Bree":
Tell me this doesn’t ring true:I started watching videos a couple months ago after Daniel sent me a video by paytotheorderofofof. He knows so much about tech stuff (I’m really bad at it!) and so one day we started playing around with his camera and it was so much fun.
Okay, Virginia: It doesn't ring true.
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and (I am impressed with Brian Flemming's commentary - that's http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming) also see:
Arguments for a real LG15 fall short: In short, the evidence Heffernan cites is not persuasive -- it's mostly stuff that could be present in both the fake and real scenarios. I.e., not militating for one or the other. But here's some evidence that would be more consistent with a real scenario ...
Lonelygirl15 jumps the shark:
Here's the story [ on YouTube since mid-June].
There's this 16-year-old girl named Bree. She's supercute. She's also supersmart -- for fun, she reads books like Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel. She's also sheltered -- she's been homeschooled most of her life, which means she's fairly innocent and doesn't meet a lot of guys.
In other words, she's exactly the kind of girl that the young male YouTube demographic would fantasize about.
Enter Daniel. Daniel is Bree's friend. He's not really good-looking. He's kind of awkward. He's a computer geek. And Bree likes him. Holy crap. That's exactly the kind of thing that the young male YouTube demographic would fantasize about.
But, as in Moonlighting and other successful TV shows, while there is chemistry between the two main characters, there is no actual romance yet. They're "friends." Gotta have somewhere to go.
That's the basic setup, and it wasn't obvious at the start that it was fake. After all, a girl at a webcam is a girl at a webcam. How would you know if she was faking it? Had Bree just stayed put and talked, she probably could have told us anything without us knowing whether it was real or not.
But then came the plot. The producers had decided on the romance genre. Like all writers of love stories, they needed to find a blocking force, or there is no story. Boy likes girl. Girl likes boy. What could possibly keep these two lovebirds apart?
Answer: Satan.
I'm totally not kidding. ok here's where you got me. Sold! on this post.
Bree has dropped hints about her religion since she started vidblogging. What religion is it? We don't know.
..things really fell apart. Bree posted a video that played out like a soap opera. It just reeks of fakeness. Game over. Here are the problems with "I Probably Shouldn't Post This...": 1. Why are Bree and Daniel recording their fight on the webcam? Daniel actually expresses opposition to recording it -- and then allows it to happen anyway. Bree makes a lame excuse for it: "The whole world has seen everything already." This breaks a cardinal rule of serious mock-doc shooting: Never show a scene that would not plausibly be shot. Christopher Guest can (and does) break this rule, but a hoax cannot. The shaky setup forces these talented performers into some stilted acting and improvisation. Bree's bedroom suddenly looks like acting class. 2. Who edited this video? Daniel is the "computer genius" who handles the editing of Bree's videos. But they just had a fight, and it's not plausible that Daniel would then happily edit Bree's video for her -- leaving in the parts his character didn't want recorded in the first place. The editors of this show forgot a key fact: They're not supposed to exist. 3. Why did Bree post the video? Titling it "I Probably Shouldn't Post This..." isn't good enough. The Bree character actually wouldn't post this. But the producers need to get across a story point, so they have their character do something she wouldn't really do. Heartbreaking.
Is it/isn't it fake could have been an interesting running theme for the series, if only it hadn't so clearly answered the question so early. Now the only mystery is exactly who is behind it and why they're doing it.
Here's the story [ on YouTube since mid-June].
There's this 16-year-old girl named Bree. She's supercute. She's also supersmart -- for fun, she reads books like Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel. She's also sheltered -- she's been homeschooled most of her life, which means she's fairly innocent and doesn't meet a lot of guys.
In other words, she's exactly the kind of girl that the young male YouTube demographic would fantasize about.
Enter Daniel. Daniel is Bree's friend. He's not really good-looking. He's kind of awkward. He's a computer geek. And Bree likes him. Holy crap. That's exactly the kind of thing that the young male YouTube demographic would fantasize about.
But, as in Moonlighting and other successful TV shows, while there is chemistry between the two main characters, there is no actual romance yet. They're "friends." Gotta have somewhere to go.
That's the basic setup, and it wasn't obvious at the start that it was fake. After all, a girl at a webcam is a girl at a webcam. How would you know if she was faking it? Had Bree just stayed put and talked, she probably could have told us anything without us knowing whether it was real or not.
But then came the plot. The producers had decided on the romance genre. Like all writers of love stories, they needed to find a blocking force, or there is no story. Boy likes girl. Girl likes boy. What could possibly keep these two lovebirds apart?
Answer: Satan.
I'm totally not kidding. ok here's where you got me. Sold! on this post.
Bree has dropped hints about her religion since she started vidblogging. What religion is it? We don't know.
..things really fell apart. Bree posted a video that played out like a soap opera. It just reeks of fakeness. Game over. Here are the problems with "I Probably Shouldn't Post This...": 1. Why are Bree and Daniel recording their fight on the webcam? Daniel actually expresses opposition to recording it -- and then allows it to happen anyway. Bree makes a lame excuse for it: "The whole world has seen everything already." This breaks a cardinal rule of serious mock-doc shooting: Never show a scene that would not plausibly be shot. Christopher Guest can (and does) break this rule, but a hoax cannot. The shaky setup forces these talented performers into some stilted acting and improvisation. Bree's bedroom suddenly looks like acting class. 2. Who edited this video? Daniel is the "computer genius" who handles the editing of Bree's videos. But they just had a fight, and it's not plausible that Daniel would then happily edit Bree's video for her -- leaving in the parts his character didn't want recorded in the first place. The editors of this show forgot a key fact: They're not supposed to exist. 3. Why did Bree post the video? Titling it "I Probably Shouldn't Post This..." isn't good enough. The Bree character actually wouldn't post this. But the producers need to get across a story point, so they have their character do something she wouldn't really do. Heartbreaking.
Is it/isn't it fake could have been an interesting running theme for the series, if only it hadn't so clearly answered the question so early. Now the only mystery is exactly who is behind it and why they're doing it.
Here's some free advice for the next hoaxters, drawn from the lonelygirl15 mistakes.
Avoid all hints of professionalism. The lighting on Bree is incredibly good, certainly ranking among the very best webcam lighting ever. The video quality is also quite good for a webcam -- almost no noise at all in the signal. Real webcam videos have flaws. And casual vidbloggers tend to be pretty inconsistent -- they don't put out a steady stream of similar-looking videos on a regular schedule. Having Bree not post for a month, or having her videos look very unpolished when Daniel isn't around to edit them would have added verisimilitude.
The story is not king...in mock-doc, the style takes story's place at the top. Not one single idea should make it into the piece if it is not 100% consistent with the central conceit. Because in this form of fiction, unlike most others, one inconsistent part can destroy the whole.
Know that you're going to be investigated. Bree's first video was posted in June. A fan website called lonelygirl15.com, purportedly created by an independent fan, appeared in July, after Bree became popular on YouTube. But YouTubers discovered that the lonelygirl15.com domain was registered on May 12, 2006 -- before the world even knew lonelygirl15 existed. Oops. The excuse offered by the fan website's apparent proprietor sounds like desperate backfilling.[said Daniel registered it] Strange, he didn't mention this intriguing fact at the start. And he would have.
YouTube is a conversation. The Bree videos so far all could have been shot within the span of one or two days. That may work financially for the production, but it wreaks havoc on verisimilitude. If the lonelygirl15 saga were real, Bree and Daniel would be far more specific in responding to the comments of other YouTubers. In fact, Bree mentioned specific YouTube denizens in her first videoblog post, but she hasn't mentioned a single YouTube user in the weeks since -- even though many users have posted response videos. She and Daniel only make vague references like "you guys were asking about..." Not good enough. If Bree and Daniel existed in real time, they'd be referencing specific comments and videos, both inside and outside YouTube.
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NY Mag on lonelygirl15. "It's the birth of WikiTV." »0
NEW Decent acoustic cover of Outkast's "Hey Ya" by someone named Obadiah Parker. Turns it into a strangely sad song. See also: the video to Outkast's new single, "Morris Brown." »0
Lonelygirl15's Online Diary Is the Birth of a New Art Form -- New York Magazine via rw
By Adam Sternbergh
She’s a suspiciously photogenic teen who films first-person confessionals in her bedroom, detailing the dramas of her so-called life. Most of them revolve around her study-buddy Daniel, who secretly (okay, not so secretly—is anything a secret in the YouTube world?) has a crush on her. This is all supposedly done without the knowledge of her religious, homeschooling parents. From her first video, posted June 16, she’s doled out new chapters in two-minute chunks, each with an alluring title such as “Boy Problems,” “Dad ‘Talks’ to Daniel,” and “What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?” And lots of viewers are caught up in her micro-soap; her videos have totaled almost 2 million views, her “channel” is the fourth most popular on YouTube, and the New York Times’ Virginia Heffernan recently lobbied for her to get her own TV show. still without her parents knowing? Along the way, people have started questioning whether she even exists, and for good reason: She’s just a little too charming, her videos a little too well edited, and her story a little too neatly laid out. Some skeptical YouTubers are posting short films dedicated to debunking her, while others wave a smoking gun: The domain name for her fan site was registered a month before her first video went up. Ironically, her most prominent critic—a YouTuber named Gohepcat, a film-geek hipster in mirrored sunglasses and a cowboy hat—has become a mini–YouTube star in his own right. [Lonelygirl15 a Fake?] And because anyone on YouTube can post responses or theories about Lonelygirl (and plenty have), her story now has its own metastasizing, David Lynch–worthy cast.
..Wouldn’t this be the ultimate viral-marketing technique—to create not only the cute-girl phenomenon but the she’s-a-fake controversy as well?
..not everyone commenting on Lonelygirl can be part of the hoax (if it is a hoax). But they’re all, in their own way, now part of her story.
And presto: Just like that, Lonelygirl’s tale goes from Web-based melodrama or viral-marketing trickery toward something like a brand-new art form. It’s the birth of WikiTV: a television show created by a broad community of participants and built not of sequential, hour-long episodes, but of two-minute interconnected parcels. The story line is both linear (will Daniel get the girl?) and expansive (enter the Mirrored Cowboy!), and anyone can join in.
Which means that, of all the possible outcomes to the Lonelygirl story, the one in which she actually turns out to be just some cute teen with preternatural editing skills will be the least interesting of all. The second-least-interesting outcome—and the one I dread, and half-expect—is that once her page views reach critical mass, she’ll start popping open the Mountain Dews and talking about how deliciously refreshing they are. hmmhee
The best scenario is that she’s a sleeper agent in the employ of MTV, or VH1, or some as-yet-unidentified entity, and that others will follow her fictional lead. Of course, as a necessary side effect, YouTube will be flooded with crap. (Or even more flooded with crap.) But the weak story lines will wither and the smartly crafted ones will blossom, just as Lonelygirl’s have. And maybe this, and not some NBC shows for sale on iTunes, is the future of television—or the promised land of a new narrative form.
By Adam Sternbergh
She’s a suspiciously photogenic teen who films first-person confessionals in her bedroom, detailing the dramas of her so-called life. Most of them revolve around her study-buddy Daniel, who secretly (okay, not so secretly—is anything a secret in the YouTube world?) has a crush on her. This is all supposedly done without the knowledge of her religious, homeschooling parents. From her first video, posted June 16, she’s doled out new chapters in two-minute chunks, each with an alluring title such as “Boy Problems,” “Dad ‘Talks’ to Daniel,” and “What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?” And lots of viewers are caught up in her micro-soap; her videos have totaled almost 2 million views, her “channel” is the fourth most popular on YouTube, and the New York Times’ Virginia Heffernan recently lobbied for her to get her own TV show. still without her parents knowing? Along the way, people have started questioning whether she even exists, and for good reason: She’s just a little too charming, her videos a little too well edited, and her story a little too neatly laid out. Some skeptical YouTubers are posting short films dedicated to debunking her, while others wave a smoking gun: The domain name for her fan site was registered a month before her first video went up. Ironically, her most prominent critic—a YouTuber named Gohepcat, a film-geek hipster in mirrored sunglasses and a cowboy hat—has become a mini–YouTube star in his own right. [Lonelygirl15 a Fake?] And because anyone on YouTube can post responses or theories about Lonelygirl (and plenty have), her story now has its own metastasizing, David Lynch–worthy cast.
..Wouldn’t this be the ultimate viral-marketing technique—to create not only the cute-girl phenomenon but the she’s-a-fake controversy as well?
..not everyone commenting on Lonelygirl can be part of the hoax (if it is a hoax). But they’re all, in their own way, now part of her story.
And presto: Just like that, Lonelygirl’s tale goes from Web-based melodrama or viral-marketing trickery toward something like a brand-new art form. It’s the birth of WikiTV: a television show created by a broad community of participants and built not of sequential, hour-long episodes, but of two-minute interconnected parcels. The story line is both linear (will Daniel get the girl?) and expansive (enter the Mirrored Cowboy!), and anyone can join in.
Which means that, of all the possible outcomes to the Lonelygirl story, the one in which she actually turns out to be just some cute teen with preternatural editing skills will be the least interesting of all. The second-least-interesting outcome—and the one I dread, and half-expect—is that once her page views reach critical mass, she’ll start popping open the Mountain Dews and talking about how deliciously refreshing they are. hmmhee
The best scenario is that she’s a sleeper agent in the employ of MTV, or VH1, or some as-yet-unidentified entity, and that others will follow her fictional lead. Of course, as a necessary side effect, YouTube will be flooded with crap. (Or even more flooded with crap.) But the weak story lines will wither and the smartly crafted ones will blossom, just as Lonelygirl’s have. And maybe this, and not some NBC shows for sale on iTunes, is the future of television—or the promised land of a new narrative form.
Saturday, August 26, 2006
Fametracker :: The Fame Audit :: Kate Winslet:
Okay, look. Here's the thing about that Kate Winslet/Rachel Weisz 2 Stars 1 Slot I wrote back in 2003: I gave the advantage to Weisz, and I was wrong. Comparing Weisz and Winslet now demonstrates how very wrong I was: Winslet is in the midst of Oscar hoopla surrounding her fourth nomination. And Weisz has been reunited with her Chain Reaction co-star Keanu Reeves in Constantine, which, more like Crapstantine. 'Hell wants him'? Hell's the only one.
We love Winslet in much the same way, and for much the same reason, that we love her Sense & Sensibility co-star Emma Thompson: she's a natural actor and a really cool person. ...with her canny combination of normal, out-of-the-spotlight living and mostly good movies, Winslet has been one of our most beloved actors ever since Heavenly Creatures, more than ten years ago. She never held herself up as an icon of anything, really, and is unfailingly lovable and charming in interviews -- which you might not think of as a talent, especially, until you consider how few of her colleagues possess it.
Assets: - So very pretty. well. cool.
Okay, look. Here's the thing about that Kate Winslet/Rachel Weisz 2 Stars 1 Slot I wrote back in 2003: I gave the advantage to Weisz, and I was wrong. Comparing Weisz and Winslet now demonstrates how very wrong I was: Winslet is in the midst of Oscar hoopla surrounding her fourth nomination. And Weisz has been reunited with her Chain Reaction co-star Keanu Reeves in Constantine, which, more like Crapstantine. 'Hell wants him'? Hell's the only one.
We love Winslet in much the same way, and for much the same reason, that we love her Sense & Sensibility co-star Emma Thompson: she's a natural actor and a really cool person. ...with her canny combination of normal, out-of-the-spotlight living and mostly good movies, Winslet has been one of our most beloved actors ever since Heavenly Creatures, more than ten years ago. She never held herself up as an icon of anything, really, and is unfailingly lovable and charming in interviews -- which you might not think of as a talent, especially, until you consider how few of her colleagues possess it.
Assets: - So very pretty. well. cool.
Fametracker :: 2 Stars 1 Slot :: Battle of the Southern Shitkickers :: Josh Lucas vs. Cole Hauser: That was a nice little career Cole Hauser had, once upon a time. He had so much going for him: rugged good looks, friendship with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck .. and a cool name. That wasn't a household name, mind you, but maybe if he'd really applied himself, he might have worked his way up to being the Bill Paxton of his generation.
Then Legally Blonde made $95 million.
You might wonder, 'What possible affect could the success of a frothy, candy-coloured chick flick have on the career prospects of an all-American manly man?' Well, much as a butterfly flapping its wings in China can cause a storm of lazy analogies over New York City, so does chaos theory operate among Hollywood movie studios. The unexpected success of Legally Blonde meant that, the next time Reese Witherspoon made a frothy romantic comedy, the studio that released it would pour tens of millions of marketing dollars into ensuring that lightning struck again. (And hell, why not make a literal lightning strike a plot point in the movie, just for fun!) The real draw in Witherspoon's next romantic comedy -- the cute, cookie-cutter romcom Sweet Home Alabama -- is obviously Witherspoon herself, and her non-dilemma of choosing between her tight-assed Manhattan fiancé or the Southern-fried sweetheart whose child bride she'd been years before. This means the Southern-fried sweetheart had to be a rugged manly man (to differentiate him from the somewhat wussy Manhattanite) -- someone not too famous, because he couldn't be more famous than Reese Witherspoon. How about a redhead? How about Josh Lucas? so that's? y - how quickly I forget the name.
And that's where Sweet Home Alabama went ahead and buried Cole Hauser.
Then Legally Blonde made $95 million.
You might wonder, 'What possible affect could the success of a frothy, candy-coloured chick flick have on the career prospects of an all-American manly man?' Well, much as a butterfly flapping its wings in China can cause a storm of lazy analogies over New York City, so does chaos theory operate among Hollywood movie studios. The unexpected success of Legally Blonde meant that, the next time Reese Witherspoon made a frothy romantic comedy, the studio that released it would pour tens of millions of marketing dollars into ensuring that lightning struck again. (And hell, why not make a literal lightning strike a plot point in the movie, just for fun!) The real draw in Witherspoon's next romantic comedy -- the cute, cookie-cutter romcom Sweet Home Alabama -- is obviously Witherspoon herself, and her non-dilemma of choosing between her tight-assed Manhattan fiancé or the Southern-fried sweetheart whose child bride she'd been years before. This means the Southern-fried sweetheart had to be a rugged manly man (to differentiate him from the somewhat wussy Manhattanite) -- someone not too famous, because he couldn't be more famous than Reese Witherspoon. How about a redhead? How about Josh Lucas? so that's? y - how quickly I forget the name.
And that's where Sweet Home Alabama went ahead and buried Cole Hauser.
Mister Poll: Most genuine actress:
This poll was created on 2005-06-14 07:13:51 by RobotWisdom.
| Which actress do you think is most trustworthy/genuine? | ||
  | | Kate Winslet (17%) |
| | Cate Blanchett (14%) |
| | Sissy Spacek (14%) |
| | Scarlett Johansson (12%) |
| | Drew Barrymore (11%) |
| | Liv Tyler (9%) |
| | Joan Cusack (9%) |
| | Diane Lane (5%) |
| | Ashley Judd (4%) |
| ||
| | 362 total votes |
Actresses - age?
K Dunst - April 1982 . so she's now 24 - Bonnie age. scarlett j 1984, lohan 86, duff 87.
J Stiles - March 1981.
Ginnifer Goodwin - May 1978 - ooh in Memphis.
Maggie Gyllenhaal - Nov 1977 - NY.
Reese Witherspoon - March 1976 - born N Orleans. I'm really liking on her..
Gwyneth Paltrow - Sept 1972.
Angelina Jolie - June 1975.
Catherine Z-J - Sept 1969. she seemed like a star before she seemed like t-mobile's salesgirl.
Jennifer Aniston - Feb 1969.
Cate Blanchett - May 1969. oh she's from Australia (Melbourne, Vi). I think she's very good.
Julia R -Oct 1967.
Lauren Graham - Mar 1967. doesn't belong in list? -but she could, I think, but for seeming prefer comic-light roles.
Helena Bonham Carter - May 1966. lovely - in her own league? - the one I favor above.
Catherine Keener - Mar 1960.
Michelle Pfeiffer - Apr 1958.
J Stiles - March 1981.
Ginnifer Goodwin - May 1978 - ooh in Memphis.
Maggie Gyllenhaal - Nov 1977 - NY.
Reese Witherspoon - March 1976 - born N Orleans. I'm really liking on her..
Gwyneth Paltrow - Sept 1972.
Angelina Jolie - June 1975.
Catherine Z-J - Sept 1969. she seemed like a star before she seemed like t-mobile's salesgirl.
Jennifer Aniston - Feb 1969.
Cate Blanchett - May 1969. oh she's from Australia (Melbourne, Vi). I think she's very good.
Julia R -Oct 1967.
Lauren Graham - Mar 1967. doesn't belong in list? -but she could, I think, but for seeming prefer comic-light roles.
Helena Bonham Carter - May 1966. lovely - in her own league? - the one I favor above.
Catherine Keener - Mar 1960.
Michelle Pfeiffer - Apr 1958.
kirsten dunst -Search www.fametracker.com
Fametracker :: 2 Stars 1 Slot :: Battle of the Perky Co-Eds :: Kirsten Dunst vs. Reese Witherspoon: both perky co-eds have balanced their perky co-ed roles with more daring material. ..there's Dunst's subtle and stunning performance in The Virgin Suicides as Lux Lisbon. Rebelling against her repressive parents by offering her body and heart to any of the neighbourhood boys who'd take it, Lux is clever, sexy, and bereft, often in the same scene. As the only Lisbon sister worth remembering, Dunst pretty much carries the movie, and does it confidently and well.
Fametracker :: Blue Moons :: Hollywood Gene Project :: Clone Fever: ... the Geneticists had a few anxious moments during Dunst's performance in crazy/beautiful -- wondering whether the trashiness of Dunst's character was a harbinger of latent porn leanings just waiting to assert themselves -- so far, Dunst seems firmly installed at the virginal end of the MPAA ratings scale.
Fametracker :: The Fame Audit :: Renée Zellweger: ...in light of Zellweger's stunningly vertical career trajectory despite her humble beginnings, the question is which of the moderately cute stars of today's teen comedies is eight years away from her second Best Actress Oscar nomination? Kirsten Dunst? Reese Witherspoon? Katie Holmes? Any of them, we would submit, has as much claim to success as an actor as Zellweger does. They each have a pleasantly likable screen presence (which sounds like damnation with faint praise, but is actually a rarer blessing than you'd think; it's the difference between a Kirsten Dunst and a Neve Campbell). They're each attractive in a kind of perky but not especially stunning way (the difference between a Katie Holmes and an Angelina Jolie). They each have a reputation for extreme diligence in their work -- more diligence than raw talent, you might say (the difference between a Reese Witherspoon and a Kate Winslet). ok, Winslet is the one to play me in P&P The Movie and Reese W does seem hard-working but isn't she also a good actress - underestimated ?
Fametracker :: 2 Stars 1 Slot :: Battle of the Willowy Former Child Stars Who Did That Thing Once :: Anna Paquin vs. Claire Danes:
But you know who's laughing now? Kirsten Dunst. Little Kirsten Dunst, from Interview with the Vampire, who seemed destined for pseudo-fringe stardom and yet now is a big star in Spider-Man and never gets confused with nobody, no how.
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Fametracker :: The Fame Audit :: Maria Bello: We think Bello should be a big star. We know Hollywood isn't notoriously kind to woman in their mid-to-late thirties, but come on -- Kirsten Dunst can't play every part. (Seriously, Hollywood -- she can't. Save some for the fishes.)
..Obviously, what Hollywood needs -- though it may not have known it until right this very minute -- is someone who comes off as the product of a gene splice between Sharon Stone and Frances McDormand. In other words, Maria Bello. ..She's like Sharon Stone gone horribly right. Deserved approximate level of fame: Angelina Jolie. word to Maria Bello (Hist Of Violence), Frances McDormand (she was my favorite even as a bit part in Sth's Gotta Give), and hey also Kyra Sedgewick (The Woodsman).
Fametracker :: The Fame Audit :: Frances McDormand: She had been quietly building a résumé of varied, intriguing roles. Like Meryl Streep or Sissy Spacek, McDormand wasn't constantly in our faces, but simply showed up for work, kicked some ass, and called it a day, returning afterward to a private life about which we know very little...the combination of an Oscar and a great instinct for choosing her projects has made McDormand a Hollywood A-lister who never wastes our time: she seems only to do work she believes in, and her belief in her work makes us believe in it, too. (Plus, remember that acceptance speech, in which she thanked Ethan Coen for making her an actress, and Joel Coen for making her a woman? That's what you call cool, friend. Take that, Susan Sarandon.)
Fametracker :: 2 Stars 1 Slot :: Battle of the Perky Co-Eds :: Kirsten Dunst vs. Reese Witherspoon: both perky co-eds have balanced their perky co-ed roles with more daring material. ..there's Dunst's subtle and stunning performance in The Virgin Suicides as Lux Lisbon. Rebelling against her repressive parents by offering her body and heart to any of the neighbourhood boys who'd take it, Lux is clever, sexy, and bereft, often in the same scene. As the only Lisbon sister worth remembering, Dunst pretty much carries the movie, and does it confidently and well.
Fametracker :: Blue Moons :: Hollywood Gene Project :: Clone Fever: ... the Geneticists had a few anxious moments during Dunst's performance in crazy/beautiful -- wondering whether the trashiness of Dunst's character was a harbinger of latent porn leanings just waiting to assert themselves -- so far, Dunst seems firmly installed at the virginal end of the MPAA ratings scale.
Fametracker :: The Fame Audit :: Renée Zellweger: ...in light of Zellweger's stunningly vertical career trajectory despite her humble beginnings, the question is which of the moderately cute stars of today's teen comedies is eight years away from her second Best Actress Oscar nomination? Kirsten Dunst? Reese Witherspoon? Katie Holmes? Any of them, we would submit, has as much claim to success as an actor as Zellweger does. They each have a pleasantly likable screen presence (which sounds like damnation with faint praise, but is actually a rarer blessing than you'd think; it's the difference between a Kirsten Dunst and a Neve Campbell). They're each attractive in a kind of perky but not especially stunning way (the difference between a Katie Holmes and an Angelina Jolie). They each have a reputation for extreme diligence in their work -- more diligence than raw talent, you might say (the difference between a Reese Witherspoon and a Kate Winslet). ok, Winslet is the one to play me in P&P The Movie and Reese W does seem hard-working but isn't she also a good actress - underestimated ?
Fametracker :: 2 Stars 1 Slot :: Battle of the Willowy Former Child Stars Who Did That Thing Once :: Anna Paquin vs. Claire Danes:
But you know who's laughing now? Kirsten Dunst. Little Kirsten Dunst, from Interview with the Vampire, who seemed destined for pseudo-fringe stardom and yet now is a big star in Spider-Man and never gets confused with nobody, no how.
........
Fametracker :: The Fame Audit :: Maria Bello: We think Bello should be a big star. We know Hollywood isn't notoriously kind to woman in their mid-to-late thirties, but come on -- Kirsten Dunst can't play every part. (Seriously, Hollywood -- she can't. Save some for the fishes.)
..Obviously, what Hollywood needs -- though it may not have known it until right this very minute -- is someone who comes off as the product of a gene splice between Sharon Stone and Frances McDormand. In other words, Maria Bello. ..She's like Sharon Stone gone horribly right. Deserved approximate level of fame: Angelina Jolie. word to Maria Bello (Hist Of Violence), Frances McDormand (she was my favorite even as a bit part in Sth's Gotta Give), and hey also Kyra Sedgewick (The Woodsman).
Fametracker :: The Fame Audit :: Frances McDormand: She had been quietly building a résumé of varied, intriguing roles. Like Meryl Streep or Sissy Spacek, McDormand wasn't constantly in our faces, but simply showed up for work, kicked some ass, and called it a day, returning afterward to a private life about which we know very little...the combination of an Oscar and a great instinct for choosing her projects has made McDormand a Hollywood A-lister who never wastes our time: she seems only to do work she believes in, and her belief in her work makes us believe in it, too. (Plus, remember that acceptance speech, in which she thanked Ethan Coen for making her an actress, and Joel Coen for making her a woman? That's what you call cool, friend. Take that, Susan Sarandon.)
Fametracker :: 2 Stars 1 Slot :: Battle of the Battle of Heirs Apparent :: Kirsten Dunst vs. Julia Stiles vs. Maggie Gyllenhaal: First off, let's get this question out of the way: Of course we need a new Julia Roberts. Hollywood, obviously, can't function without a go-to romantic-comedy queen.Roberts was a mere twenty-three years old huh when Pretty Woman opened in 1990, and she immediately established herself as America's Sweetheart. And, in the ensuing fourteen years, no one female movie star has risen to challenge her seriously.
Kirsten Dunst is now twenty-one. Julia Stiles is twenty-two. Maggie Gyllenhaal is twenty-six. And all three are, of course, starring this week in Mona Lisa Smile, in which they play the rapt students to Roberts's wise teacher.Make no mistake: Roberts is still the star, but she's no longer the ingenue.
...Dunst, for her part, didn't defeat Reese Witherspoon so much as cede to her a certain niche of disposable fluff comedies, which Witherspoon -- her own impressive acting chops notwithstanding -- seems all too happy to dominate.
Gyllenhaal is, in every respect, the dark horse: she's the oldest, the brunette-iest, and the least conventionally good-looking. But who knows? A strong showing as the vamp in Smile might yet vault her to Next Roberts status, as opposed to simply Next Sherilyn Fenn status.
Kirsten Dunst is now twenty-one. Julia Stiles is twenty-two. Maggie Gyllenhaal is twenty-six. And all three are, of course, starring this week in Mona Lisa Smile, in which they play the rapt students to Roberts's wise teacher.Make no mistake: Roberts is still the star, but she's no longer the ingenue.
...Dunst, for her part, didn't defeat Reese Witherspoon so much as cede to her a certain niche of disposable fluff comedies, which Witherspoon -- her own impressive acting chops notwithstanding -- seems all too happy to dominate.
Gyllenhaal is, in every respect, the dark horse: she's the oldest, the brunette-iest, and the least conventionally good-looking. But who knows? A strong showing as the vamp in Smile might yet vault her to Next Roberts status, as opposed to simply Next Sherilyn Fenn status.
A List Of Things Thrown Five Minutes Ago - 8/8/2004 who will be the next julia roberts?
also via ggl: fametracker julia.robertsI like comparing..here, younger actresses. see the comments...
kirsten dunst, julia stiles. I find myself consistently curious about how these girls come off..
lindsay lohan and hilary duff don't interest me I guess. (scarlett johannsen lost my interest after LostinTr. and Natalie Portman has lost my interest but maybe that's undeserved.) ann hathaway I haven't seen.
reese witherspoon, I say yes, she's a star - and a serious actress and seeming good person.
tv guide capsule rvw says miscast in MonaLisaSmiles, so who cld've been instead? ~catherine keener maybe? who is in a category with julia roberts? meaning even just, her age?
Regularly "opens" a movie without needing a hot male actor's star power -- beat that, Angelina, Meg, Jodie, Gwyneth, and Helen!beat that, Angelina, Meg, Jodie, Gwyneth, and Helen!
so that's: Angelina Jolie - but she's a star. like a rock star. Gwyneth Paltrow - also ~ more glam.
Helen Hunt - ok. and I like watching her better.. Jodie Foster - ok. also ~ can play more serious roles.
Meg Ryan -I dislike her standard character who makes those faces. she was good in When a Man Loves A Woman.
Fametracker :: The Fame Audit :: Julia Roberts: She has been the most bankable woman in Hollywood, more or less, for the last ten years. With the possible exception of Harrison Ford, she's the closest thing to blue-chip stock that Hollywood has. huh
Regularly "opens" a movie without needing a hot male actor's star power -- beat that, Angelina, Meg, Jodie, Gwyneth, and Helen!beat that, Angelina, Meg, Jodie, Gwyneth, and Helen!
so that's: Angelina Jolie - but she's a star. like a rock star. Gwyneth Paltrow - also ~ more glam.
Helen Hunt - ok. and I like watching her better.. Jodie Foster - ok. also ~ can play more serious roles.
Meg Ryan -I dislike her standard character who makes those faces. she was good in When a Man Loves A Woman.
Fametracker :: The Fame Audit :: Julia Roberts: She has been the most bankable woman in Hollywood, more or less, for the last ten years. With the possible exception of Harrison Ford, she's the closest thing to blue-chip stock that Hollywood has. huh
doesn't capitalize on Julia Roberts' charm. The dramatic genre has never been her forte. She's been very successful at the box office in romantic comedies (Pretty Woman, My Best Friend's Wedding, Notting Hill, Runaway Bride) and thrillers (Sleeping with the Enemy, Pelican Brief). However, her dramatic roles have led to varying results. Only when they tap into her spitfire southern charm, as in Something to Talk About and Erin Brokovich, can she negotiate through slightly heavier material. huh, ok.
Now that she has her Oscar (which felt like a lifetime achievement award ala Susan Sarandon and Jessica Langes' wins the last decade, despite her still young age), her career has kicked it into low gear. ..[Here she is] trying to tell a bunch of up-and-coming Hollywood protégés that art is important and we must let it challenge us. I think she should stay away from characters making such assertions, because she herself is an actress who doesn't participate in challenging art herself, nor should she. I believe her best performance was in "My Best Friend's Wedding." She was a selfish single-woman who was a trouble-maker and a lot of fun.
IMDb user comments for Mona Lisa Smile (2003) Author: vatz from So Cal
Now that she has her Oscar (which felt like a lifetime achievement award ala Susan Sarandon and Jessica Langes' wins the last decade, despite her still young age), her career has kicked it into low gear. ..[Here she is] trying to tell a bunch of up-and-coming Hollywood protégés that art is important and we must let it challenge us. I think she should stay away from characters making such assertions, because she herself is an actress who doesn't participate in challenging art herself, nor should she. I believe her best performance was in "My Best Friend's Wedding." She was a selfish single-woman who was a trouble-maker and a lot of fun.
IMDb user comments for Mona Lisa Smile (2003) Author: vatz from So Cal
Mona Lisa Smile - IMDb user comments
If anything, we are more drawn to the strength of the relationships of the students to each other yep rather than the instructor. Where 'Poets' drew Robin Williams character deep into the lives of his students, Watson's student relationship is manufactured at best, strained and intrusive at worst.
The film deserves unexpected credit for not casting itself as a unilateral message of contemporary feminism. It allows Watson, as the enlightened teacher, to offer her message of women's potential in non-traditional roles, yet also allows one of her students to assert the right to choose that traditional role without condescension. y good ~
If anything, we are more drawn to the strength of the relationships of the students to each other yep rather than the instructor. Where 'Poets' drew Robin Williams character deep into the lives of his students, Watson's student relationship is manufactured at best, strained and intrusive at worst.
The film deserves unexpected credit for not casting itself as a unilateral message of contemporary feminism. It allows Watson, as the enlightened teacher, to offer her message of women's potential in non-traditional roles, yet also allows one of her students to assert the right to choose that traditional role without condescension. y good ~
Thursday, August 24, 2006
Saved: Rescue Me, but with ambulances! - TWoP Forums:
I liked the episode. I liked the confined space and the way a situation that was not such a big deal gradually slipped through everyone’s fingers until it was out of control. Certainly the writers can be heavy handed and significant but I’m pulling for this show. I really enjoy it. Plus, they can just go right ahead providing employment for the small and incestuous Canadian acting community. I’m sure I recognized all the supporting players.
The only thing I’m not feeling is Angela’s need for control. On a show like this there’s always one female character working with the guys and she’s always a Type-A ball buster. They’d better back up the control issue with something substantive post-haste, or give Angela something more interesting to worry about. Post #164
I liked the episode. I liked the confined space and the way a situation that was not such a big deal gradually slipped through everyone’s fingers until it was out of control. Certainly the writers can be heavy handed and significant but I’m pulling for this show. I really enjoy it. Plus, they can just go right ahead providing employment for the small and incestuous Canadian acting community. I’m sure I recognized all the supporting players.
The only thing I’m not feeling is Angela’s need for control. On a show like this there’s always one female character working with the guys and she’s always a Type-A ball buster. They’d better back up the control issue with something substantive post-haste, or give Angela something more interesting to worry about. Post #164
HEY MOM THE MEATLOAF WE WANT IT NOW!!!
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somemeatloaf.wav(123K) ---- somemeatloaf.mp3(123K)
John Beckwith (Owen Wilson): 'You know what? I will have some meatloaf. Let's have some meatloaf.'
Chazz Reinhold (Will Ferrell): 'You want some?'
John: 'Yes.'
Chazz: 'I knew you'd come-- Hey, Mom! The meatloaf! We want it now! The meatloaf!'
shedoing.wav(92K) ---- shedoing.mp3(92K)
Chazz: 'We want it now! The meatloaf! What is she doing? I never know what she's doing back there.'
themeatloaf.wav(34K) ---- themeatloaf.mp3(34K)
The MovieWavs Page - Wedding Crashers Wavs Mp3s Movie Quotes Movie Sounds Movie Wavs:
somemeatloaf.wav(123K) ---- somemeatloaf.mp3(123K)
John Beckwith (Owen Wilson): 'You know what? I will have some meatloaf. Let's have some meatloaf.'
Chazz Reinhold (Will Ferrell): 'You want some?'
John: 'Yes.'
Chazz: 'I knew you'd come-- Hey, Mom! The meatloaf! We want it now! The meatloaf!'
shedoing.wav(92K) ---- shedoing.mp3(92K)
Chazz: 'We want it now! The meatloaf! What is she doing? I never know what she's doing back there.'
themeatloaf.wav(34K) ---- themeatloaf.mp3(34K)
Ma! The meatloaf! FUCK!
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Mario was playing this on his radio show..
Guardian Unlimited Books || Interview: Joan Didion:
When Quintana died, she stopped writing. 'I'm going through this process twice now. It's a different process, because the relationship to a child is at once more fundamental and less intimate. Because a grown child has his or her own life and isn't part of your daily life. And you might talk on the phone once a day, but that's not every breath you take. Which someone you live with is.'
When Quintana died, she stopped writing. 'I'm going through this process twice now. It's a different process, because the relationship to a child is at once more fundamental and less intimate. Because a grown child has his or her own life and isn't part of your daily life. And you might talk on the phone once a day, but that's not every breath you take. Which someone you live with is.'
Sunday, August 20, 2006
Townes Van Zandt - Frequently Asked Questions:
John Townes Van Zandt was born March 7, 1944 in Ft. Worth Texas.
He married Fran Petters in 1965. The marriage produced a son, John Townes Van Zandt II born April 11, 1969 in Houston TX. Townes and his first wife (Fran) were divorced in January 1970.
Townes married his second wife, Cindy, in Nashville in September 1978 (they had lived together since late 1974); they were divorced on February 10 1983 in Travis County Texas.
Townes third and final marriage was to Jeanene Munsell, who was born in Corpus Christi, Texas on February 21, 1957. The pair met in Austin TX December 9th 1980 the day after John Lennon was killed. They took up residency together that very day. They were legally married March 14, 1983 ten days before the birth of their first child William Vincent. Their second child, Katie Belle Van Zandt was born nine years later on February 14, 1992 in Nashville, TN. They were divorced May 2, 1994 although they remained extremely close and bought a second home together on Old Hickory Lake in Mt. Juliet TN which Townes named Bayou Self. When off the road back home in Tennessee, Townes split his time between the family home, The Ponderosa when he was behaving well enough to be around the children and Bayou Self when he wasn't. Townes died at the lakehouse in Mt. Juliet of a heart attack following hip surgery on New Years Day, 1997. age 53.
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John Townes Van Zandt was born March 7, 1944 in Ft. Worth Texas.
He married Fran Petters in 1965. The marriage produced a son, John Townes Van Zandt II born April 11, 1969 in Houston TX. Townes and his first wife (Fran) were divorced in January 1970.
Townes married his second wife, Cindy, in Nashville in September 1978 (they had lived together since late 1974); they were divorced on February 10 1983 in Travis County Texas.
Townes third and final marriage was to Jeanene Munsell, who was born in Corpus Christi, Texas on February 21, 1957. The pair met in Austin TX December 9th 1980 the day after John Lennon was killed. They took up residency together that very day. They were legally married March 14, 1983 ten days before the birth of their first child William Vincent. Their second child, Katie Belle Van Zandt was born nine years later on February 14, 1992 in Nashville, TN. They were divorced May 2, 1994 although they remained extremely close and bought a second home together on Old Hickory Lake in Mt. Juliet TN which Townes named Bayou Self. When off the road back home in Tennessee, Townes split his time between the family home, The Ponderosa when he was behaving well enough to be around the children and Bayou Self when he wasn't. Townes died at the lakehouse in Mt. Juliet of a heart attack following hip surgery on New Years Day, 1997. age 53.
posted this already earlier dlww probably back when saw Be Here.
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