The Unit. swedish author. Other press. into scandinavian writing lately? knausgaard norway. whatshisname iceland who I've tht for some time shld try Halldor Laxness that blue bk whatitstitle, that I like. now I have archipelago cloth edtn of his first novel.
The Unit appeals because about closed space, finite life.
like Saramago, The Cave. which I am trying to remember. the clay figurines they take to sell. and they move there, why do they have to move there? a closed inside world. entertainment. amenities. then what happens?
az- The Cave - by Jose Saramago (2002)
-az rvw: The Cave follows the fortunes of an aging potter, Cipriano Algor, beginning with his weekly delivery of plates to the Center,
a high-walled, windowless shopping complex, residential community, and nerve center that dominates the region.
What sells at the Center will sell everywhere else, and what the Center rejects can barely be given away in the surrounding towns and villages. The news for Cipriano that morning isn't good. Half of his regular pottery shipment is rejected, and he is told that the consumers now prefer plastic tableware. Over the next week, he and his grown daughter Marta grieve for their lost craft, but they gradually open their eyes to the strange bounty of their new condition: a stray dog adopts them, and a lovely widow enters Cipriano's life. ...
-pubwkly: Widowed Cipriano Algor is a 64-year-old Portuguese potter who finds his business collapsing when the demand dries up for his elegant, handcrafted wares. His potential fate seems worse than poverty-to move with his daughter, Marta, and his son-in-law, Mar‡al Gacho, into a huge, arid complex known as "The Center," where Gacho works as a security guard. But Algor gets an order from the Center for hundreds of small ceramic figurines, a task that has Marta and Algor hustling to meet the delivery date. [-Cipriano sells his earthenware pots and jugs there until he is told that they are "worthless." People prefer plastic. Cipriano decides to make ceramic dolls instead.]
..a stunning ending after the doll project crashes, when Algor becomes a resident of the Center and finds a shocking surprise in a cave unearthed beneath it.
remembering .. was it like Plato's cave? men in chains, watching shadows? (but why? do we learn why & by whom set up, or are we left there ~ parable)Saramago deserves special kudos for his one-dog canine chorus, a stray mutt named Found that Algor adopts.
oh yeah I liked that dog. I think I liked this book. -The close to nature life of the village and the globalized Centre are in total contrast and the drive from the village to the Centre is unforgettable, first passing the so-called green belt where nothing is green (and the insides of the strawberries grown there are white), then through the industrial belt, then the shanty town where the poor live, then through the city itself to the impenetrable fortress called the Centre. Consumers are barraged with advertising slogans and expect to find everything (or a copy of everything) that can be bought from anywhere in the world as well as every imaginable form of entertainment including a casino, a racing track for cars, a beach with waves -- even sensations, like being in a tornado, or a blizzard can be experienced inside the Centre.
right these are the 'amenities' I was thinking of. the artificial landscapes, weather. Most of the apartments in the Centre do not even have windows that look out, many of the residents prefer a view of the inside of the Centre itself, and half the dwellings have no windows at all.
-The Center, an imposing complex of arcades, shops, staircases, escalators, cafes, terraces, movie theaters, discotheques, big-screen tvs, electronic games, billboards, mannequins, a church, a casino, a gymnasium, a roller coaster, and a zoo (p. 241).
-The meaning of the discovery at The Center that inspires them to run away is a bit of a mystery to me. ok so yes maybe its meaning is left ambiguous
-In his novel, Saramago's frequent allusions to Plato's cave transition from metaphorical to literal. During excavation, Plato's cave is literally unearthed beneath The Center, containing six bodies imprisoned there with ropes, and "as if a metal spike had been put through their skulls to keep them fixed to the stone" (p. 292).
ok there go then. that's wh seemed to remember. When Plato's cave becomes a tourist attraction, Cipriano and his family leave The Center to "start a new life a long way from here" (p. 305).
+ Ishiguro, Never Let Me Go. "final donation." same phrase right?no actually d n say that phrase; says 'fourth donation.' they die in making this fourth donation, if not at the first second or third. oh ok also they speak not of dying but 'completing.' az- Never Let Me Go - customer reviews srch: 'donation' -"You were brought into this world for a purpose." Never Let Me go opens with the young narrator Kathy H. telling us that she has been a "carer" now for eleven years, and that the authorities - whomever they are - have been generally pleased with her work. Then she talks about her "doners" and their "impressive recovery time," even before the "fourth donation."
-I do find myself wondering how it can be economical to raise clones for the donation of 2, 3 or at the most 4 organs, although it is implied that the donation process continues after "completion" or death - that what remains of the clone is preserved and more organs are harvested. A grim, very disturbing idea, and the calm acceptance of it makes the novel so tragic.
-Ishiguro creates a convincing vocabulary, milieu, and mythology for this setting: guardians, carers, donors, completing, Exchanges, Sales, the Gallery, Norfolk, and an eerie sense of the students having "been told and not told."
-seemingly benign misconception that Norfolk is where lost articles are found and reclaimed. Articles like her beloved tape and Tommy's football shirt.
and what was the Gallery? that Madame came to the school & took paintings for? why was art emphasized in their teaching? -In the Hailsham academy, children must produce large quantities of art, which is then sold in exchanges and rewarded generously based on the levels of talent and creativity it produces. Kathy H. recalls that an exceptionally good work of art would mysteriously disappear, and it was rumored that a gallery existed to showcase all of the outstanding work. The older graduates speak of the gallery, and how the mysterious woman in charge, "Madame," will use the works as an indicator of whether the two deserve this privilege.
ah. whether they seem to have souls. but, it turns out there is no gallery? what was the art for?-At one level this is a deeply moving and extremely sad love story told by a young woman, the sole survivor of a love triangle. At another level it is a nightmarish horror tale whose protagonists have all come to life through cloning, and from day one were then raised at Hailsham, a special "boarding school" where, in total isolation, they were being prepared for an early death by organ donation to terminally ill but
maculately conceived "normal" humans. .. Hailsham graduates can expect to "complete" (their euphemism for the verb die) before they even reach the age of thirty. One lives one's life according to the time at one's disposal. It is remarkable how the basic human emotions and interactions get deformed to accommodate the much-shortened lifetime of these characters. At some point all humans become aware of their mortality, but this point obviously gets much moved up when early "completion" becomes a near certainty. This novel explores in some depth the extent to which mortality-awareness affects human feelings and actions.
-The book doesn't emphasize at all on the technical details of what really goes on behind the scenes when a "donation" is given ("what body part did they take away now from this poor child now?") or what the actual scientific purpose is. I found a strong feeling of gloom and sadness as I lived through the emotions of the characters and constantly hoped for their escape, which of course never came. This sadness surprisingly stayed with me for quite a while.
-Girl loves longstanding male bestfriend, but subsumes her love when it becomes clear that her female best friend is also interested in the same boy. Kathy's narrative is clean and matter of fact, full of the detail of day to day school day memories. The story of love lost and regained which drives the narrative forward is one which has been played out in love songs (like the fictional "Never Let Me Go" song which Kathy takes to) for as long as love songs have been written. But this is no ordinary coming of age story. Nor is it really about a love story, although the whole concept of love, and artistic power is one which sets off the sinister underlying elements of the story. .. What the reader finally becomes aware of, more or less concurrent with the narrator, is that the characters are clones, `created' rather than born, solely for the sake of providing replacement parts for `humans,' a `species' to which these people clearly do not belong.
Somehow, and somewhere, one imagines a kind of parental set - the persons, scientists or whatever who have created them, and who has the responsibility for their existence. These missing characters form part of the novel's setting: the backstory and backdrop which is never revealed. The gods which created Kathy, Tommy and Ruth are missing from the novel, along with any kind of reference for morality. Not quite missing however are those people after whom the clones are created--the "possibles" -- and there is a kind of touching nostalgia of the sort that an adopted person might feel for his real but utterly inaccessible parents among the characters for their possible.
[...'possibles'? are the models for the clones? voluntary? (why 'possible'?) how did that work? maybe Ishiguro did not say much about it
-Ishiguro tells a heartbreaking story of human resignation, but he falls short in the science fiction elements of his book. The gaps in the picture Ishiguro paints of a world where a special race of human exists are never quite filled-even with Madame and Miss Emily's confessions. The book seems unfinished to me, because the full scope and rules of Ruth, Tommy, and Kathy's special world is not revealed. The question of the possibles is never resolved, though it seems something that Tommy and Kathy would have asked about. The fact that the way these people come into Hailsham still remains hazy is bothersome]..the ethics of this world, or the terrible use of what are clearly people in this way is hardly raised, with the very brief exception of a last ditch visit made by Kathy and Tommy, in an attempt to get `out of' the donor program - based on a rumour circulated among the donors that anyone who demonstrated `true love' might get let off. The lovers made their pilgrimage, and instead found some semblance of the horrible truth about their existence.
The morality in this novel is pretty clear, but there are also hints that the book may be showing us more the similarities rather than the differences in the lives of these characters and those of the readers. After all, we are all going to die after a relatively short life of utilitarian work on behalf of someone else
but? not *all* work on behalf of someone else?, and while we may have the consolations of family which the characters in Never Let Me Go don't, the novel makes our own exertions on the hamster wheel seem almost as futile as Kathy's. It's a chilling notion that makes you want to go berserk just like Tommy.
-To me, it's not just about the cloned kids. By midnight shadow
This book is very disturbing. At first, I was very sad about the fate of the three main characters and my attention dwelt on questioning the morality of cloning. But when I reached the part when Tommy said "...It's a shame, Kath, because we've loved each other all our lives. But in the end, we can't stay together forever." In this sense, what is the difference between them and us? The "students" worked hard on their art, on poetry, on creativity but in the end, all are futile. All of them are doomed to die upon the 4th donation at the latest. How about us? We work hard through school and work. In the end, what does all that matter? No matter how much two people love each other, one thing is certain and that is "we can't stay together forever." For Kath and Tommy, it might be 3 months. To us, it might be 30 years but in the end, our end is the same. No escape.