Friday, June 30, 2006
Chicago mile x mile
Welcome to mile by mile
This is the web version of a set of photographs that map chicago's famous and rarely-comprimising grid into 212 4"x6" snapshots. According to the Summer 2001 CTA bus & rail map,
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m i l e b y m i l e
click on a picture to see the intersection
http://www.fakeisthenewreal.org/milexmile/mxm-layout.html
This is the web version of a set of photographs that map chicago's famous and rarely-comprimising grid into 212 4"x6" snapshots. According to the Summer 2001 CTA bus & rail map,
"Chicago street numbers start at State and Madison downtown. State Street divides east and west addresses, and Madison Street divides north and south addresses. ... One mile is equal to 800 street numbers."I took pictures at intersections at every mile street - streets numbered with multiples of 800. The south side warps the numbering system; Roosevelt Road is one mile of south of Madison and numbered 1200. The next mile you are greeted the street named for the assassinated mayor Anton Cermak, which is numbered 2200. after that the numbering system returns to 800 a mile. i took these pictures during the second warmest and sunniest january in chicago in the last 135 years, between 1/2/02 and 1/22/02. I used with a lomo smenha loaded with kodak and fuji 100, 200 and 400 film. The Walgreen's at Roosevelt and Canal (not a mile intersection) developed my film. I drove a 1990 mazda mpv and, on one occasion, a 1995 toyota corolla. cool technical disclosure. I saw dirt roads, hundreds of bungalows, indiana, powerplants, overpasses, white terracotta, an giant fiberglass indian with a 'dental care' sign on 55th? going West (to Midway)beyond Garfield station?, gas stations, harold's chicken shacks, many many of my fellow chicagoans. lovely.
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m i l e b y m i l e
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state was the main road for going downstate madison was our president out by o'hare pacifc and bryn mawr doesn't exist its in an unicorporated part inside town pacific and belmont hosts us hair force an old ladies beauty salon bryn mawr stops at a forest preserve and doesnt go through western is the longest street in the city broadway takes over ashland past addison and then 800 w is called clarendon clark is 1600 w for a few blocks in rogers park too many corners to count had payless shoe sources pulaski used to be crawford its still crawford in the suburbs it changes at devon narragansett turns into nagle at about lawrence, which is called gunnison for a while up there probably used to be something nice at kedzie and belmont nows it's the expressway there's an overpass passing over belmont and western same thing at ashland and pershing which doesn't go through to cicero theres another overpass and a railroad yard and a power plant there probably wasn't ever anything nice at ashland and 31 which is also overpassed at cicero 71st is an access road for a kmart or was it a walmart ashland stops and decides to be diagonal and called beverly for a while at 95th in beverly so 1600 w and 103rd is at prospect a typical bungalow street 111th in pullman doesnt experience cottage grove there is a blue police department there cottage grove is diagonal here and at 103rd 800 e is a little st called corliss 'da candy & snack shop' is there at state and 103rd you can visit the classy d barber salon also happy liquors cottage grove and 79 there is a little church under a skyway ramp at state and 79 and at state and stony island a mies-like bank and two very-friendly looking cafes natives call the street stony but cottage grove is not called just cottage or just grove irving park is called irving or irving park road usually not just irving park very few would recognize pacific east river road brandon avenue c or 135th as mile streets few stop to think about the roman orator the dutch town the the english county the pennsylvania and wales town the presidents, mayors, war heroes, and landowners so many of them that they drive over all the time.
so many I had not thought death had undone so many. how green was my valley and the valley of them that have gone.
state was the main road for going downstate madison was our president out by o'hare pacifc and bryn mawr doesn't exist its in an unicorporated part inside town pacific and belmont hosts us hair force an old ladies beauty salon bryn mawr stops at a forest preserve and doesnt go through western is the longest street in the city broadway takes over ashland past addison and then 800 w is called clarendon clark is 1600 w for a few blocks in rogers park too many corners to count had payless shoe sources pulaski used to be crawford its still crawford in the suburbs it changes at devon narragansett turns into nagle at about lawrence, which is called gunnison for a while up there probably used to be something nice at kedzie and belmont nows it's the expressway there's an overpass passing over belmont and western same thing at ashland and pershing which doesn't go through to cicero theres another overpass and a railroad yard and a power plant there probably wasn't ever anything nice at ashland and 31 which is also overpassed at cicero 71st is an access road for a kmart or was it a walmart ashland stops and decides to be diagonal and called beverly for a while at 95th in beverly so 1600 w and 103rd is at prospect a typical bungalow street 111th in pullman doesnt experience cottage grove there is a blue police department there cottage grove is diagonal here and at 103rd 800 e is a little st called corliss 'da candy & snack shop' is there at state and 103rd you can visit the classy d barber salon also happy liquors cottage grove and 79 there is a little church under a skyway ramp at state and 79 and at state and stony island a mies-like bank and two very-friendly looking cafes natives call the street stony but cottage grove is not called just cottage or just grove irving park is called irving or irving park road usually not just irving park very few would recognize pacific east river road brandon avenue c or 135th as mile streets few stop to think about the roman orator the dutch town the the english county the pennsylvania and wales town the presidents, mayors, war heroes, and landowners so many of them that they drive over all the time.
so many I had not thought death had undone so many. how green was my valley and the valley of them that have gone.
Thursday, June 29, 2006
Celine's fascination with the ballet spans his literary career: three of the pieces in this volume were written around the same time that he published his great novel, VOYAGE AU BOUT DE LA NUIT, which he dedicated to the dancer Elisabeth Craig. At the time of his death, according to his wife -- also a dancer -- he was planning a book devoted to dance.
"A man who doesn't dance confesses some disgraceful weakness," he wrote Milton Hindus. "I put dancing into everything."
1892295067 Ballets without Music, without Dancers, without Anything
Louis-Ferdinand Celine
and 1564784495 Conversations With Professor Y -- Dalkey Archive Press (June 20, 2006)
interview (imaginary conversation btw Professor Y and Celine, who rails against convention and defends his idiosyncratic methods as a writer)
"A man who doesn't dance confesses some disgraceful weakness," he wrote Milton Hindus. "I put dancing into everything."
1892295067 Ballets without Music, without Dancers, without Anything
Louis-Ferdinand Celine
and 1564784495 Conversations With Professor Y -- Dalkey Archive Press (June 20, 2006)
interview (imaginary conversation btw Professor Y and Celine, who rails against convention and defends his idiosyncratic methods as a writer)
x-8-x.
one object hovering off the horizon...still:
Saturday, June 24, 2006
apocentre ٣
anabolism in
anne boleyn is, um
anne m is a bowlin'
posted by x-8-x at 10:08 PM
Saturday, June 24, 2006
apocentre ٣
anabolism in
anne boleyn is, um
anne m is a bowlin'
posted by x-8-x at 10:08 PM
Sunday, June 25, 2006
A History of Violence by David Cronenberg, Viggo Mortensen, Maria Bello, and Ed Harris (DVD) [amazon]On the DVD: On a single disc and with little fanfare, this DVD makes an excellent case for the best extras of the year. Dive into the one-hour-long documentary and learn more about moviemaking than on many a double-disc. The secret lies in director David Cronenberg's (and his usual crew) folksy casualness in showing off the craft, be it makeup (green screens were used), directing (Cronenberg doesn't storyboard), or art direction (the diner set). It also is very funny to hear about "fish Fridays" and how Maria Bello's Uncle Pete became an influence. Even the infamous sex-on-the-staircase scene is diagnosed with candor as stars Viggo Mortensen and Bello act as if there is no backstage camera. There's only one deleted scene, but it's uncommonly deconstructed on why it was filmed and why it was cut (it's a very Cronenbergian dream sequence). A short bit on Cannes is also a delight. So much is here that Cronenberg's smart commentary track is nearly superfluous. Isn't that a nice surprise? --Doug Thomas
Cronenberg at his masterful best, December 25, 2005
Reviewer:A. Sandoc "sussarakhen" (San Pablo, California United States) - See all my reviews
A History of Violence will remind people that David Cronenberg is one of the more underappreciated film directors of the last 30 years and also one of its master craftsmen. Using a loose-adaptation (yet echoing some of the book's themes) of the John Wagner and Vince Locke graphic novel of the same name, Cronenberg creates a multi-layered film dissertation about the nature of violence. I will pause for a moment and say that the film also delivers as a taut, gripping thriller that looks to ape the action-films of blockbusters past, but Cronenberg's skill as a director manages to keep the film above it's B-movie aspirations. More well-known as the creator of eccentric and unusual fare with legions of fans and admirers in the horror community, David Cronenberg may have his most mainstream and accessible film to date since his remake of The Fly. ...his past films dealt with the horror of the body politic (Shivers, Crash, The Brood, The Fly) and the nature of reality and existence (Videodrome, Dead Ringers, Naked Lunch, Spider, eXistenZ)... I'll have to say that this is Viggo Mortensen and Maria Bello's best work to date.. The chemistry between these two performers is genuine, searing and very intimate. The very last can be seen in graphic detail in the two scenes of sex between the characters. One in the beginning is naughtily playful and shows how much in love the two characters still are and the second being more brutal and primal. For an art-film masquerading as an action-thriller, A History of Violence is very deliberate in setting up each violent outburst. There's an underlying dread that permeates through each set-up. We know that something is about to happen, but its not rushed and gradually builds-up until something has to break. The violence is not your stereotypical action sequence that looks staged, but comes and goes quickly with the brutality and lethality of reality. In fact, the violence has the feel of being very intimate. Everything is up close and personal. Nothing is done from a distance and each strike and violent act painful to see, yet in all instances each scene also gets a rousing response from the audience. This is particularly evident in a scene concerning Tom Stall's teenage son dealing with a particular high school bully in brutal fashion.. I must say that A History of Violence has to be one of the best films I've seen since I've been watching them. For a film that is really just a revenge-thriller similar to Chan-wook Park's Oldboy, Cronenberg's latest has so many layers and depth to it that anyone who sees it are going to be tempted to talk about its themes and subtext lon after they've left the theater. Where Oldboy is like a hard kick in the gut then a devastation stomp on the neck, A History of Violence is more insidious, intimate and subversive --- like a sharp papercut just beneath the fingernail that lingers and tells one that its going to be there for awhile and there to stay. Some may end up not liking the film due to its deliberate nature or not having enough people dying in elaborately staged action sequences, but that will only show exactly what Cronenberg has been trying to show. That people nowadays have been so inured and desensitized by violence that we've come to accept it as entertainment and actually have come to yearn and need it like a drug-addict looking for their next hit. One of the best films of 2005, if not one of the best in the past decade.
Cronenberg at his masterful best, December 25, 2005
Reviewer:A. Sandoc "sussarakhen" (San Pablo, California United States) - See all my reviews
A History of Violence will remind people that David Cronenberg is one of the more underappreciated film directors of the last 30 years and also one of its master craftsmen. Using a loose-adaptation (yet echoing some of the book's themes) of the John Wagner and Vince Locke graphic novel of the same name, Cronenberg creates a multi-layered film dissertation about the nature of violence. I will pause for a moment and say that the film also delivers as a taut, gripping thriller that looks to ape the action-films of blockbusters past, but Cronenberg's skill as a director manages to keep the film above it's B-movie aspirations. More well-known as the creator of eccentric and unusual fare with legions of fans and admirers in the horror community, David Cronenberg may have his most mainstream and accessible film to date since his remake of The Fly. ...his past films dealt with the horror of the body politic (Shivers, Crash, The Brood, The Fly) and the nature of reality and existence (Videodrome, Dead Ringers, Naked Lunch, Spider, eXistenZ)... I'll have to say that this is Viggo Mortensen and Maria Bello's best work to date.. The chemistry between these two performers is genuine, searing and very intimate. The very last can be seen in graphic detail in the two scenes of sex between the characters. One in the beginning is naughtily playful and shows how much in love the two characters still are and the second being more brutal and primal. For an art-film masquerading as an action-thriller, A History of Violence is very deliberate in setting up each violent outburst. There's an underlying dread that permeates through each set-up. We know that something is about to happen, but its not rushed and gradually builds-up until something has to break. The violence is not your stereotypical action sequence that looks staged, but comes and goes quickly with the brutality and lethality of reality. In fact, the violence has the feel of being very intimate. Everything is up close and personal. Nothing is done from a distance and each strike and violent act painful to see, yet in all instances each scene also gets a rousing response from the audience. This is particularly evident in a scene concerning Tom Stall's teenage son dealing with a particular high school bully in brutal fashion.. I must say that A History of Violence has to be one of the best films I've seen since I've been watching them. For a film that is really just a revenge-thriller similar to Chan-wook Park's Oldboy, Cronenberg's latest has so many layers and depth to it that anyone who sees it are going to be tempted to talk about its themes and subtext lon after they've left the theater. Where Oldboy is like a hard kick in the gut then a devastation stomp on the neck, A History of Violence is more insidious, intimate and subversive --- like a sharp papercut just beneath the fingernail that lingers and tells one that its going to be there for awhile and there to stay. Some may end up not liking the film due to its deliberate nature or not having enough people dying in elaborately staged action sequences, but that will only show exactly what Cronenberg has been trying to show. That people nowadays have been so inured and desensitized by violence that we've come to accept it as entertainment and actually have come to yearn and need it like a drug-addict looking for their next hit. One of the best films of 2005, if not one of the best in the past decade.
Thursday, June 15, 2006
Wednesday, June 14, 2006
Well I never thought I'd be one of those men
With pin-ups on their wall For all to see
I thought that was just mechanics
Oh, I know I Oh, I know I have strayed
Smog Lyrics, Photos, Pictures, Paroles, Letras, Text for every songs
I thought that was just mechanics Oh, I know I Oh, I know I have strayed I have taken you for a ride Left you waiting in the car ...www.alwaysontherun.net/smog.htm -
With pin-ups on their wall For all to see
I thought that was just mechanics
Oh, I know I Oh, I know I have strayed
Smog Lyrics, Photos, Pictures, Paroles, Letras, Text for every songs
I thought that was just mechanics Oh, I know I Oh, I know I have strayed I have taken you for a ride Left you waiting in the car ...www.alwaysontherun.net/smog.htm -
Sunday, June 11, 2006
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Friday, June 9, 2006
John Cusack Movie Inspired by Ban on Press Photos of Flag-Draped Coffins
rw:John Cusack's Iraq indie (AP-E&P)
"Grace Is Gone," a small indp film in wh Cusack plays whose wife Grace killd in service in Iraq. Filming wrapped last month.will be lookg for a distr or filmfestival opportunities. to z0606 cine ... 1 min ago
While Grace is set in a vague Midwestern city, most of the six-week shoot took place in Chicago due to Cusack's influence. He grew up in suburban Evanston and divides his time between homes in Chicago and Los Angeles.
rw:John Cusack's Iraq indie (AP-E&P)
"Grace Is Gone," a small indp film in wh Cusack plays whose wife Grace killd in service in Iraq. Filming wrapped last month.will be lookg for a distr or filmfestival opportunities. to z0606 cine ... 1 min ago
While Grace is set in a vague Midwestern city, most of the six-week shoot took place in Chicago due to Cusack's influence. He grew up in suburban Evanston and divides his time between homes in Chicago and Los Angeles.
Thursday, June 8, 2006
colbert tonite - spliced "fake interview" with Tom Delay vgood to me bcs not just verbal, also got great typical (of Colbert intrvws) facial expressions on Delay as in response to Colbert - nonplussed etc. subtly done well.
and enjoyed seeing Steven Johnson, who I know from bks & blog (freq~ linkd by k), re recent bk Everthing Bad is Good For You. well recently in paper ? ~
Colbert asked about shooting games saying that is how he sees the world all the time and we see him lkg at Johnson as a target w videogame sound effects. "now you know how it feels to be me."
so, though I am not regularly in the mood --awake, light, interested-- to watch, the Report always proves delightful it does.
_
unrelated I liked the blogger handling of downtime today with a re-direct to a mssg about it on page w url blogger.com../sorry.htm. and as rg said today to rb who said "sorry" (uncharacteristically! personal!) about bringing us a large invoiced purchase to box up immediately for pick-up by a messenger-courier, I'll go from pretty mad to aw-ing if someone says sorry.
wasn't mad at bloggr anyway, already pleased just with the notice that appeared on blogger.status :
Thursday, June 08, 2006 -For many users, Blogger will have been extremely slow or down for most of the morning. I'll forgive most if acknowleged, in fact I'll have warm feelings about the recognition ~ the cnnxn: oh..yes it was down and slow and then down then slow for me. you know how it was for me! We continue to work on fixes for this problem and hope to have it resolved as quickly as possible.
Update (4:45p): We are planning another infrastructure overhaul to address the significant problems we've been having in the past several days.Update (6:59p): We've made another change that has improved performance, but we are also planning to make additional changes this evening.Posted by Jason at 11:14 PDT
and enjoyed seeing Steven Johnson, who I know from bks & blog (freq~ linkd by k), re recent bk Everthing Bad is Good For You. well recently in paper ? ~
Colbert asked about shooting games saying that is how he sees the world all the time and we see him lkg at Johnson as a target w videogame sound effects. "now you know how it feels to be me."
so, though I am not regularly in the mood --awake, light, interested-- to watch, the Report always proves delightful it does.
_
unrelated I liked the blogger handling of downtime today with a re-direct to a mssg about it on page w url blogger.com../sorry.htm. and as rg said today to rb who said "sorry" (uncharacteristically! personal!) about bringing us a large invoiced purchase to box up immediately for pick-up by a messenger-courier, I'll go from pretty mad to aw-ing if someone says sorry.
wasn't mad at bloggr anyway, already pleased just with the notice that appeared on blogger.status :
Thursday, June 08, 2006 -For many users, Blogger will have been extremely slow or down for most of the morning. I'll forgive most if acknowleged, in fact I'll have warm feelings about the recognition ~ the cnnxn: oh..yes it was down and slow and then down then slow for me. you know how it was for me! We continue to work on fixes for this problem and hope to have it resolved as quickly as possible.
Update (4:45p): We are planning another infrastructure overhaul to address the significant problems we've been having in the past several days.Update (6:59p): We've made another change that has improved performance, but we are also planning to make additional changes this evening.Posted by Jason at 11:14 PDT
wkpd: References to the North Pennine area, and lead mining, occur constantly throughout Auden’s later life in both prose and verse, most notably in the poems "New Year Letter" (1940); "The Age of Anxiety" (1947); "Amor Loci" (1965) and "Prologue at Sixty" (1967), wherein he calls himself a "Son of the North", as well as the magazine article, printed in Vogue in 1954, "England: Six Unexpected Days", a suggested driving itinerary mostly through the Pennine Dales.
Newsletter 15 (November 1996)
When Auden wrote about this sacred landscape again only a few years later in `The ... analyses Auden's obsession with mines and the limestone landscape, ...www.audensociety.org/15newsletter.html -
.that mining is the one human activity that is by nature mortal", and intersperses his arguments with readings of "In Praise of Limestone", "Amor Loci", and --- ah ah ah Amor Loci I think that
When Auden wrote about this sacred landscape again only a few years later in `The ... analyses Auden's obsession with mines and the limestone landscape, ...www.audensociety.org/15newsletter.html -
.that mining is the one human activity that is by nature mortal", and intersperses his arguments with readings of "In Praise of Limestone", "Amor Loci", and --- ah ah ah Amor Loci I think that
Wednesday, June 7, 2006
why in mind:
Denny's /photos/karmative/148249424/ motel~trailer~cracked-wndshield ~strongroughhaggardprettytired mood that I like. [auden - limestone - how could I imagine - a perfect love - landscape - absolute - desolation]
Auden: In Praise of Limestone but no the line(s) I want are not these - earlier limestone poem? - looked at for my di piero paper written at thnksgvg in modesto with iv - ? ~ precursor to here: when I try to imagine a faultless love Or the life to come .. what I see is a limestone land
along the way:
Carol Bere: A Knot of Obsessions [re Ted Hughes - Collected Poems] -bostonreview.net
Hughes's England was neither W.H. Auden's nor Philip Larkin's but the .. His inner landscape was charted early.. (another search result, yknow: Auden landscape limestone etc) its Hughes more attracts me now yes
Newsletter 14 (April 1996) -audensociety.org/14newsletter.html
(search result): It was the first poem that Auden wrote in Italy, and the limestone landscape was useful to him, as he later wrote in his 1971 Freud Lecture, ... // Writing an Auden Commentary // marking just to look at -
Denny's /photos/karmative/148249424/ motel~trailer~cracked-wndshield ~strongroughhaggardprettytired mood that I like. [auden - limestone - how could I imagine - a perfect love - landscape - absolute - desolation]
Auden: In Praise of Limestone but no the line(s) I want are not these - earlier limestone poem? - looked at for my di piero paper written at thnksgvg in modesto with iv - ? ~ precursor to here: when I try to imagine a faultless love Or the life to come .. what I see is a limestone land
along the way:
Carol Bere: A Knot of Obsessions [re Ted Hughes - Collected Poems] -bostonreview.net
Hughes's England was neither W.H. Auden's nor Philip Larkin's but the .. His inner landscape was charted early.. (another search result, yknow: Auden landscape limestone etc) its Hughes more attracts me now yes
Newsletter 14 (April 1996) -audensociety.org/14newsletter.html
(search result): It was the first poem that Auden wrote in Italy, and the limestone landscape was useful to him, as he later wrote in his 1971 Freud Lecture, ... // Writing an Auden Commentary // marking just to look at -
If it form the one landscape that we, the inconstant ones,Are consistently homesick for, this is chieflyBecause it dissolves in water.
With which we have nothing, we like to hope, in common. --- knowing each other too well to thinkThere are any important secrets --- I know this poem too close
That is why, I suppose,The best and worst never stayed here long but soughtImmoderate soils where the beauty was not so external,The light less public
an older colder voice, the oceanic whisper:"I am the solitude that asks and promises nothing;That is how I shall set you free. There is no love;There are only the various envies, all of them sad." this part is near~er what I am thinking of [andstill too much too close too obvious -to me- the rhythm and words- too known, exactly: knowing each other too well. give me instead Margaret When you are Older You will come to such sights Colder] but to the task at hand: is there not another poem that says ~ faced with a landscape of absolute desolation, how could I not but imagine a perfect love?
I, too, am reproached, for whatAnd how much you know. yes I know I seem to. hardly can take it.
With which we have nothing, we like to hope, in common. --- knowing each other too well to thinkThere are any important secrets --- I know this poem too close
That is why, I suppose,The best and worst never stayed here long but soughtImmoderate soils where the beauty was not so external,The light less public
an older colder voice, the oceanic whisper:"I am the solitude that asks and promises nothing;That is how I shall set you free. There is no love;There are only the various envies, all of them sad." this part is near~er what I am thinking of [andstill too much too close too obvious -to me- the rhythm and words- too known, exactly: knowing each other too well. give me instead Margaret When you are Older You will come to such sights Colder] but to the task at hand: is there not another poem that says ~ faced with a landscape of absolute desolation, how could I not but imagine a perfect love?
I, too, am reproached, for whatAnd how much you know. yes I know I seem to. hardly can take it.
Keywords » Flickrology
rw: Anthropologist uses Flickr as teaching-dataset (2005-blog) - Last year, when I was offered the opportunity to teach a course on anthropology and photography at Haverford College, I immediately knew I wanted to do something with Flickr. I had the students read a number of books and articles on the ethnography of photography, including Bonnie Adrian’s Framing the Bride, Bourdieu’s essay on “The Social Definition of Photography” (in Photography: A Middle-brow Art), and several articles in Pinney and Peterson’s Photography’s Other Histories. I wanted them to draw from these articles to attempt their own ethnography of photography using Flickr. -- int student papers:
- Two students looked at tensions between the individual and the group in specific subcultures (raves and Catholic nuns respectively).
- T-shirt irony was surprisingly wide-spread.
- Bourdieu’s theory of cultural capital was well explored in relation to out-of-focus pictures from rock concerts. (And nicely compared with off-stage shots.)
- I was surprised at how many pictures of public displays of affection one student was able to find.
- People imitating fashion photographs made for interesting comparisons with Adrian’s book.
~ Flaherty 2006
RECONSTRUCTING CULTURE THROUGH INNOVATIONS IN FILM
52nd ROBERT FLAHERTY FILM SEMINAR
media and social behavior
aims to present film, video, new media, installation, and live performance cool
that offer explosive alternatives to the conventions of communication.
viewers partake in unusual and unexpected ways. cool
engage in interactive media, re-imagine social roles & models of behavior,
break down barriers keep audiences safely seated and the maker tucked behind a camera....MORE
incl lodging, all meals,
all seminar screenings & discussions, all receptions, and all other special events
we must receive your deposit within five business days of your online submission.
(send check or - Call the IFS office at 212-448-0457 to provide your credit card information.)
RECONSTRUCTING CULTURE THROUGH INNOVATIONS IN FILM
52nd ROBERT FLAHERTY FILM SEMINAR
media and social behavior
aims to present film, video, new media, installation, and live performance cool
that offer explosive alternatives to the conventions of communication.
viewers partake in unusual and unexpected ways. cool
engage in interactive media, re-imagine social roles & models of behavior,
break down barriers keep audiences safely seated and the maker tucked behind a camera....MORE
incl lodging, all meals,
all seminar screenings & discussions, all receptions, and all other special events
we must receive your deposit within five business days of your online submission.
(send check or - Call the IFS office at 212-448-0457 to provide your credit card information.)
Vassar College, Poughkeepsie, NY
June 17 -24, 2006
Vassar is located in Poughkeepsie, New York. The campus is 10 minutes from Stewart International Airport and is also accessible from New York City via Metro North or car.
Flaherty SeminarHistory/Guests
not a festival nor a scholarly conference, the Flaherty seminar focuses on ideas and the creative process rather than on financial or technical concerns.
participants expected to attend all screenings and discussion sessions. (unlike a film festival, the screening schedule is not announced in advance.) rationale - to encourage openness to the experience so that participants can come to the screenings without preconceptions.
gives all participants a common basis for engaging in the dialogue that builds throughout the week. sjc.
gives the programmer flexibility change schedule to accommodate the dynamics of the discussions as issues and ideas surface. cool.
sharing screenings, discussions, and meals as a single group builds a sense of community. sjc.
the profound "Flaherty experience" as past participants phrase it is not simply connected to the content of the seminars not just content - sjc (~ tstones) but to the intensity of the thinking process, which encourages both new and old work viewed ~diff eyes.
Flaherty (1884-1951) was the creator of such classic poetic films as Nanook of the North, Moana, Man of Aran, and Louisiana Story. The seminars began in 1955 before the era of film schools when Flaherty's widow, Frances, and brother, David, convened a group of filmmakers, critics, curators, musicians, and other film enthusiasts at the Flaherty farm in Vermont.
40 yrs the Flaherty Seminar a one-of-a-kind institution to encourage artists to explore further into the potential of the moving image.
Tuesday, June 6, 2006
ARTISTS FOR THE 52nd ROBERT FLAHERTY FILM SEMINARINCLUDE:
Zoe Beloff Vittorio De Seta Jacqueline Goss Sharon Lockhart
VITTORIO DE SETA has devoted his filmmaking to the vanishing world of simple people. His documentaries are characterized by the use of color and the absence of any kind of voice-over, leaving ample space for live voices and sounds. Refusing to make commercial work, his films for the RAI, (Italian State Television Network) drew over 15 million viewers.
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Zoe Beloff Vittorio De Seta Jacqueline Goss Sharon Lockhart
VITTORIO DE SETA has devoted his filmmaking to the vanishing world of simple people. His documentaries are characterized by the use of color and the absence of any kind of voice-over, leaving ample space for live voices and sounds. Refusing to make commercial work, his films for the RAI, (Italian State Television Network) drew over 15 million viewers.
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ok. yes
The Little Campus on Maryland Avenue in Annapolis ah~ha, replaced now by a pretend Irish pub, was our neighborhood bar, when Laurie and I lived on Hanover Street. It was where Laurie introduced me to Campari
back home
We were in Maryland for the last week, at my parents' house.
awys--k.lj
so sjca, you do bring to me kindreds ~
elsewh-
What are we likely to carry with us when we ask that our relationship with all technologies should be like that we have with the technology of printed words?" (349).
"Blinded by the Letter: Why Are We Using Literacy as a Metaphor for Everything Else?" (19)
I wasn’t impressed with the opening essay’s content, which was hard to follow at times, but the activities section at the end is where the richness of 's vision begins to take shape.
“Opening New Media to Writing: Openings & Justifications,” a piece with five different “openings” that seems better suited for hypertext than book format. somewhat ironic since one of her key points is for writing teachers to pay closer attention to the materiality of texts. This understanding of materiality (a la Bruce Horner and Christina Haas) a critical point feels shld be explored further within new media scholarship. With each “opening,” she tries to define “new media,” finally doing so with any clarity by the third “opening,” a tough enough task to be sure, but - few page-long uninterrupted paragraphs - materiality of the text shld be considered more.
back home
We were in Maryland for the last week, at my parents' house.
awys--k.lj
so sjca, you do bring to me kindreds ~
elsewh-
What are we likely to carry with us when we ask that our relationship with all technologies should be like that we have with the technology of printed words?" (349).
"Blinded by the Letter: Why Are We Using Literacy as a Metaphor for Everything Else?" (19)
I wasn’t impressed with the opening essay’s content, which was hard to follow at times, but the activities section at the end is where the richness of 's vision begins to take shape.
“Opening New Media to Writing: Openings & Justifications,” a piece with five different “openings” that seems better suited for hypertext than book format. somewhat ironic since one of her key points is for writing teachers to pay closer attention to the materiality of texts. This understanding of materiality (a la Bruce Horner and Christina Haas) a critical point feels shld be explored further within new media scholarship. With each “opening,” she tries to define “new media,” finally doing so with any clarity by the third “opening,” a tough enough task to be sure, but - few page-long uninterrupted paragraphs - materiality of the text shld be considered more.
Story of Lucy Gaultam attracted to the title, and to the cover. have been before,
and now when top book of an order in the mailroom, find am
arranging so as to keep it visible.
but: Ireland. ~ and opening sentences do not draw me.
storyline does appeal- 9yrld Lucy.
what else in this order? another William Trevor (have been considering attraction or not, since MrsFisher in her Nyer) and cloth volume stories of Alan Bennett yes do like him from P&P rvw little gifty The Clothes We Stood Up In he's British ~ a playwright ~ and oh last in stack is re Heidegger, so.
and ah~ ha - Wysk same cust to whom sent books today and I liked hers, just made note at dlcs:
az- Chip Kidd: Book One Work 1986-2006 "th closest thing to a rock star" in graphic design today (USA Today) Chip Kidd master of book design.// I d n like the large 'stylish'ness 'richlyproduced' book but wld like look thru -collects all of his book covers&designs//oh -and- designs (?) books AND books - PauldawgConstant teasing Kate re her Tenn bkst - oh AND you sold magazines?!
az- Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic - by Alison Bechdel [graphic novel - author of Dykes to Watch Out For strip]
Father's court trial re dealings w a young boy oversh early teen yrs;his death,prob a suicide, oversh her coming out. her childhd as a "still life with children" th father made. title -father proprietr funeral parlor + imgns slf arist, has gothic home
az- Fear of Small Numbers : An Essay on the Geography of Anger (Public Planet) by Arjun Appadurai these three books fr one cust mailordr, nice lkg set o bks ...to z0606 books ... on june 6
A difficult novel for any parent to read, William Trevor's The Story of Lucy Gault recounts [not based on actual is it?] the tale of a young girl whose Protestant family is driven from its rural Irish home in 1921. Eight-year-old Lucy is in love with Lahardane: the old house itself, the woods, the nearby beach, the shells and fir cones and sticks that she collected like treasure. The day before her family is scheduled to flee Ireland, leaving the house and furnishings in the care of trusted servants, Lucy runs away. Her parents, finding a scrap of her clothing on the beach, assume the worst. Days later, they leave Lahardane, choosing not to settle in England, as they had planned, but to roam Europe in their grief, leaving no forwarding address. But Lucy has not killed herself; she's only broken her leg in the woods. Eventually she makes it back to the house to find her parents gone. She spends her childhood waiting to be forgiven for her wicked act, postponing all happiness until she can be reunited with her mother and father. Revealing more of the plot will spoil this lovely novel for its many readers. It is enough to note that Trevor's characteristic depth and emotional complexity are fully realized here in the watchful reticence of his young heroine and the strange but beautiful way she finds to express her own forgiveness. --Regina Marler, az
I'm accustomed to a smooth rideOr maybe I'm a dog who's lost its biteI don't expect to be treated like a fool no moreI don't expect to sleep through the nightSome people say a lie's a lie's a lie But I say whyWhy deny the obvious child?Why deny the obvious child?And in remembering a road signI am remembering a girl when I was youngAnd we said These songs are trueThese days are oursThese tears are freeAnd heyThe cross is in the ballparkThe cross is in the ballparkWe had a lot of funWe had a lot of money We had a little son and we thought we'd call him SonnySonny gets married and moves awaySonny has a baby and bills to paySonny gets sunnierDay by day by day by dayI've been waking up at sunriseI've been following the light across my roomI watch the night receive the room of my daySome people say the sky is just the skyBut I sayWhy deny the obvious child?Why deny the obvious child?Sonny sits by his window and thinks to himself - How it's strange that some rooms are like cages - Sonny's yearbook from high school - Is down from the shelf - And he idly thumbs through the pages - Some have diedSome have fled from themselves - Or struggled from here to get there - Sonny wanders beyond his interior walls - Runs his hand through his thinning brown hairWell I'm accustomed to a smoother rideMaybe I'm a dog that's lost his biteI don't expect to be treated like a fool no moreI don't expect to sleep through the nightSome people say a lie is just a lieBut I say the cross is in the ballparkWhy deny the obvious child?
I want my 'ontologies' well classification systems to be explicitly useful - where pleasure is one if not only use - means classification personal idiosyncratic - but not ok right if the use is communicatn vis DSM where phenomelogical suits me
want ontology logos ontos th thought of Sein to be that - not classification of beings
wh do I ever see as having truth value nah description so ok can be more clear
articulate gains understand
but its always of same kind: description (sjc lab senior yr round table dB) - not sth else sth essential - wh is a word I also dont like (sjc aaron: are you translating ousia, or..? no man I am actually using the english word)
guess I can enjoy technical exercise toward making exhaustive - either / or
gives where to start and how to go - otherwise and else dont try exhaustive as if everyth really is either this or that - in Your classification system - really - theres no really here
there are things in this world not dreamed of in your philosophy Horatio
again dreamed
want ontology logos ontos th thought of Sein to be that - not classification of beings
wh do I ever see as having truth value nah description so ok can be more clear
articulate gains understand
but its always of same kind: description (sjc lab senior yr round table dB) - not sth else sth essential - wh is a word I also dont like (sjc aaron: are you translating ousia, or..? no man I am actually using the english word)
guess I can enjoy technical exercise toward making exhaustive - either / or
gives where to start and how to go - otherwise and else dont try exhaustive as if everyth really is either this or that - in Your classification system - really - theres no really here
there are things in this world not dreamed of in your philosophy Horatio
again dreamed
Last year's commencement speaker, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill) had sent Colbert this welcoming message: "Stephen, Congratulations on being asked to speak at the 2006 Knox College Commencement. This is an enormous honor and on behalf of the people of Illinois, I'd like to welcome you to our state. As you know, I was invited to speak at Knox after my keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention and subsequent election to the United States Senate. Your convention speech must also have gone really well to have been invited. It's weird that I didn't read about it somewhere."
really? (sent a letter saying that?) cool. know e o fr smwh (1st name basis)? oh and: referencing the WHPC dinner speech? - wh was a remarkable speech in national~ setting -"weird didn't read about it"-
Colbert Tells College Graduates: Get Your Own TV Show -E&P
they're playg for Keeps out there. ..cynicsm masq as wise but farthst fr it-cynics don't learn."Cynics always say no. But saying yes begins things.Yes is for young people. So for as long as you have the strength to, say yes." "And that's The Word."
via one good move -
rw: 7min Colbert/StonePhillips gravitas-rematch (1gm-QT)
+rw, Sunday- Colbert: "The world is waiting for you people with a club" (IL via E&P)
really? (sent a letter saying that?) cool. know e o fr smwh (1st name basis)? oh and: referencing the WHPC dinner speech? - wh was a remarkable speech in national~ setting -"weird didn't read about it"-
Colbert Tells College Graduates: Get Your Own TV Show -E&P
they're playg for Keeps out there. ..cynicsm masq as wise but farthst fr it-cynics don't learn."Cynics always say no. But saying yes begins things.Yes is for young people. So for as long as you have the strength to, say yes." "And that's The Word."
via one good move -
rw: 7min Colbert/StonePhillips gravitas-rematch (1gm-QT)
+rw, Sunday- Colbert: "The world is waiting for you people with a club" (IL via E&P)
Monday, June 5, 2006
# The symmetry thesis: "A given person likes you as much as you like him or her". [Marginal Revolution] "Unilateral crushes are possible and indeed common, although with repeated contact they usually collapse into symmetry, one way or the other."
well... yes collapses into mutuality, maybe so. in real lived relation. but so much is fantasy and fantasy is hardly separable from real lived relation ~ "he was in my dream, but then, I was in his dream too" ~ often not.
this may be just what separates the fantasy (in thought - what articulates fantasy over agnst the real): it needn't be mutual, it's yours, it isn't shared.
He was part of my dream, of course - but then I was part of his dream too Lewis Carroll Quotes
So, if I dream I have you, I have you, For all our joys are but fantastical; ... John Donne - Elegy X : The Dream
I love a dream of love I once had, I love you, and I love this patch of earth." "And which do you love best?" "The dream."
http://search.blogger.com/?as_q=dream&ie=UTF-8&ui=blg&bl_url=katecutrer.blogspot.com&x=0&y=0
So, if I dream I have you, I have you, For all our joys are but fantastical;
... John Donne - Elegy X : The Dream
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symmetry thesis is of an awfully (but probably happy) down-to-earth mind.
rather different from a sense that transference ~as they call it~ is pervasive
and fortune is the coincidence of your transference and mine.
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well... yes collapses into mutuality, maybe so. in real lived relation. but so much is fantasy and fantasy is hardly separable from real lived relation ~ "he was in my dream, but then, I was in his dream too" ~ often not.
this may be just what separates the fantasy (in thought - what articulates fantasy over agnst the real): it needn't be mutual, it's yours, it isn't shared.
He was part of my dream, of course - but then I was part of his dream too Lewis Carroll Quotes
So, if I dream I have you, I have you, For all our joys are but fantastical; ... John Donne - Elegy X : The Dream
I love a dream of love I once had, I love you, and I love this patch of earth." "And which do you love best?" "The dream."
http://search.blogger.com/?as_q=dream&ie=UTF-8&ui=blg&bl_url=katecutrer.blogspot.com&x=0&y=0
So, if I dream I have you, I have you, For all our joys are but fantastical;
... John Donne - Elegy X : The Dream
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symmetry thesis is of an awfully (but probably happy) down-to-earth mind.
rather different from a sense that transference ~as they call it~ is pervasive
and fortune is the coincidence of your transference and mine.
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rw: McD's game division defects over gWarming!?!? (pr via Ktku)
good headline. concise: 'defects over' and the !?. in-credible ~
pr:
McDonald's Interactive was formed four years ago to help the company adapt to new market conditions.
"We began developing a simulation of the fast-food industry, for use by managers in developing market strategies." said Division CTO Sam Grossman. "When we added a climate simulation module, it showed those strategies helping lead to global calamity."
"Management doesn't seem to care, and we can't sit back and fiddle while Rome burns, so our team has decided to break away from McDonald's and do something about it," said Grossman.
Ktku:
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-interactive-grows-up-and-leaves-home-178573.php
McDonald's Corporation has a baby software company all its own, primarily for the purpose of developing company-wide training sims. Or they did, until today. McDonald's Interactive announced today at the International Serious Games Event that it was through working for a corporation that cares more about fattening up its chattel than long-term survival. Their reasoning is both sound and admirable. The whole story is laid out at the website, and I dearly hope that when it was delivered at the conference today, it received a standing ovation.
The most interesting bit about the whole thing is how they reached this decision by watching young McD's executives play their build-the-fast-food-corporation simulation. The eager young bucks consistently made simulated in-game environmental and sociological decisions that resulted in the end of the world.
Read press release and entire story of the simulations here. (No seriously, go do it) [McDonald's Interactive] READ MORE: environmentalism, mcdonald's, simulations
I'm pretty skeptical of this story.
I can't find any Google results for a "McDonald's Interactive" game company. None. huh.
The closest results I get are interactive menus and a section of AOL, circa 1994l.
Under what loose confederacy of businesses does a company named "McDonald's Interactive" have the ability to just break off from its parent company? None I've ever heard of. yeah..
If such an entity existed, it would be owned by McDonald's just to prevent this sort of nonsense.
The domain appears to have been registered only two months ago.
The press release has a remarkably childish quality to it. This sort of internal schism would be the wet dream of any Morgan Spurlock humper say wha? [wkpd: Morgan Spurlock (born November 7, 1970) is an American independent film director, and screenwriter, known for the documentary film Super Size Me, in which he attempted to demonstrate the negative health effects of McDonald's food. Morgan Spurlock Watch ]
- it's all just too good to be true. Oh, the executives played a game and it led to the end of the world? They programmed that scenario in, did they?
I call bullshit. I may be wrong on all this, of course, but I'm afraid we may have just been punked.
by Florian Eckhardt on 06/05/06 08:55 PM
I'd have to agree with Florian on this one, as the entire thing seems really unlikely. At least, the reason they give seems false: "We ran a simulation and it turns out that McD's is harming the enviornment".
Seems more like some green politics in play here, but I guess we'll know before too much longer. If its true, that'd be impressive. wrd.
by Pepboy on 06/05/06 09:17 PM
6June upd:
Was the International Serious Games Event Punk'd? - Kotaku
Water Cooler conjectures that the convention, desperate for corporate speakers, got Punk'd itself, giving time and a stage to an anti-McDonald's group posing as the real thing. // also quote&link Wonderland
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good headline. concise: 'defects over' and the !?. in-credible ~
pr:
McDonald's Interactive was formed four years ago to help the company adapt to new market conditions.
"We began developing a simulation of the fast-food industry, for use by managers in developing market strategies." said Division CTO Sam Grossman. "When we added a climate simulation module, it showed those strategies helping lead to global calamity."
"Management doesn't seem to care, and we can't sit back and fiddle while Rome burns, so our team has decided to break away from McDonald's and do something about it," said Grossman.
Ktku:
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-interactive-grows-up-and-leaves-home-178573.php
McDonald's Corporation has a baby software company all its own, primarily for the purpose of developing company-wide training sims. Or they did, until today. McDonald's Interactive announced today at the International Serious Games Event that it was through working for a corporation that cares more about fattening up its chattel than long-term survival. Their reasoning is both sound and admirable. The whole story is laid out at the website, and I dearly hope that when it was delivered at the conference today, it received a standing ovation.
The most interesting bit about the whole thing is how they reached this decision by watching young McD's executives play their build-the-fast-food-corporation simulation. The eager young bucks consistently made simulated in-game environmental and sociological decisions that resulted in the end of the world.
Read press release and entire story of the simulations here. (No seriously, go do it) [McDonald's Interactive] READ MORE: environmentalism, mcdonald's, simulations
I'm pretty skeptical of this story.
I can't find any Google results for a "McDonald's Interactive" game company. None. huh.
The closest results I get are interactive menus and a section of AOL, circa 1994l.
Under what loose confederacy of businesses does a company named "McDonald's Interactive" have the ability to just break off from its parent company? None I've ever heard of. yeah..
If such an entity existed, it would be owned by McDonald's just to prevent this sort of nonsense.
The domain appears to have been registered only two months ago.
The press release has a remarkably childish quality to it. This sort of internal schism would be the wet dream of any Morgan Spurlock humper say wha? [wkpd: Morgan Spurlock (born November 7, 1970) is an American independent film director, and screenwriter, known for the documentary film Super Size Me, in which he attempted to demonstrate the negative health effects of McDonald's food. Morgan Spurlock Watch ]
- it's all just too good to be true. Oh, the executives played a game and it led to the end of the world? They programmed that scenario in, did they?
I call bullshit. I may be wrong on all this, of course, but I'm afraid we may have just been punked.
by Florian Eckhardt on 06/05/06 08:55 PM
I'd have to agree with Florian on this one, as the entire thing seems really unlikely. At least, the reason they give seems false: "We ran a simulation and it turns out that McD's is harming the enviornment".
Seems more like some green politics in play here, but I guess we'll know before too much longer. If its true, that'd be impressive. wrd.
by Pepboy on 06/05/06 09:17 PM
6June upd:
Was the International Serious Games Event Punk'd? - Kotaku
Water Cooler conjectures that the convention, desperate for corporate speakers, got Punk'd itself, giving time and a stage to an anti-McDonald's group posing as the real thing. // also quote&link Wonderland
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| "... grazed his as she slid three unmatching glasses from the plastic goblet rack over his head. I considered what was between them, what they felt, what they blocked. There's always something between people. Jack scratched absently at his jaw and glowered in my direction. "You haven't slept yet, have you?" I shook my ..." |
juke
will this still be there to-morrow?
Jukeboxes' New Era - WSJ.com - Real Time to z0606 song ... just posted
in Brooklyn] bartenders at Boat and B61 sd th owners hd absentd thmslves fr th distributor-operator-owner ecosyst by buying CD jukeboxes. Boat's dominated by indier-than-thou contr by rglrs- pickg songs there like learng new lang
via rw: Net-enabled jukeboxes offer 100k+ songs (WSJ)
Jukeboxes' New Era Web Jukes Can Be All Things to All People,But Is That What You Want in a Barroom?June 5, 2006REAL TIME By JASON FRY Last week I left the office one afternoon on an important mission: I had to visit a whole bunch of bars in lower Manhattan and Brooklyn. My interest wasn't beer (alas), but music: I'd just read about Web-enabled jukeboxes, and wanted to see if they were making inroads in New York City. They are. Of the 14 jukeboxes I encountered, half were digital, and bartenders and owners agreed that CD jukeboxes' days were coming to an end. I walked away from my survey thinking that Web jukeboxes were cool, but fretting that they were another example of how the digital age has empowered individualism but risks eroding a sense of community in doing so.
Let's get a few things straight: I don't wax nostalgic for the days of Wurlitzers that played 45s. I don't find CDs sonically lifeless. I don't grumble about MP3s being lossy. And I'm always excited to walk up to a bar jukebox with a $5 in my hand.
Any jukebox is a challenge, and programming one is an art that's part making a mix tape and part DJing. Beyond the obvious pitfalls -- no one in this bar really needs to hear "Sweet Caroline," "You Shook Me All Night Long" or "New York, New York" again -- you have to understand the bar's vibe to keep from detonating a musical land mine. (Just because an old-school Italian bar has "Welcome to the Jungle" on its jukebox doesn't mean a little G 'N R is what's called for at this particular moment.) Can you impress your music-geek pals with the right balance of undeservedly obscure songs, guaranteed-to-please tracks and stylistic left turns?
Jukeboxes don't have to be perfect, either: Any barfly with a buck can program a great jukebox, but it can be more fun to program a middling or bad one. Can you find the gems in a jukebox full of classic-rock warhorses? Give an frat-boy jukebox an indie tinge? Keep your rock-minded friends entertained in a country bar? And can you do it without arousing the ire of the regular clientele? Depending on the tone of voice used, few questions can be as heartening or wounding as "Did you pick this?"
The first three places I visited in lower Manhattan were Irish bars (two Blarney Stones and the John Street Bar and Grill), and all had digital jukeboxes from TouchTunes or Ecast. (According to the Associated Press, Montreal-based TouchTunes, founded in 1993, supplies songs for some 17,000 jukeboxes in the U.S.; San Francisco-based Ecast, founded in 1999, powers some 7,500.) Either way, the basics are the same: You flip through an alphabetical list of artists, pick an album cover, then are offered the most-popular songs from that album. If you don't find what you want that way, you can drill deeper and find other songs by the artist, or summon a virtual keyboard and type in a specific title. While some big artists are missing, as are many indie labels, we're still talking about hundreds of thousands of songs.
Only a few thousand of those songs are actually resident on the digital jukebox's hard drive -- if you're drilling deeper, you're searching through songs housed on a server somewhere else, and it costs more to download and play them. Depending on which variety of jukebox you encounter, you can see the most-played songs, look at new choices that have been spotlighted or pay a premium to skip your songs to the front of that jukebox's line. Web jukeboxes will definitely make life easier for bar owners: New albums and hit songs are pushed to them remotely, with no need to crack the jukebox open and swap CDs. And I quickly noted how easy it was to find and play songs I wouldn't find on many CD jukeboxes. My test cases were obscure but not impossible: albums by the Replacements and "Before They Make Me Run," Keith Richards' wobbly turn at the mike from the Rolling Stones' "Some Girls." The Web jukeboxes passed both tests, which was comforting, particularly while enduring "If You Leave Me Now" by Chicago.
I didn't find a CD jukebox until my fourth watering hole, the Nassau Bar (playing some unidentifiable metal when I arrived), and it contained a smorgasbord of metal, dance music, and mixes, including a willfully schizophrenic one that had Danzig and the Baha Men sharing space. (All in all, an interesting challenge to program.) Had the bikini-clad bartenders heard of Web jukeboxes? Absolutely -- in fact, they'd unsuccessfully lobbied the owner to get one. A few blocks uptown, the rough-and-tumble Raccoon Lodge ("Total Eclipse of the Heart" was playing, presumably ironically) had made the jump to an Ecast -- the bartender said an old vinyl jukebox was marooned in the basement. She called the Ecast the "best jukebox in the world," saying it let her have her own music play. The Raccoon Lodge's late-afternoon customers also endorsed the Ecast, applauding its selection and the ability to jump the line ahead of "some retard playing a bunch of country music".
In Brooklyn, things were different. My first stop was the affably bare-bones Hank's Saloon, whose CD jukebox is superb and even has a mix of Replacements songs. (And you get a generous 18 plays for $5.) From there, it was on to the Brooklyn Inn, site of a willfully eclectic CD juke (with the Stones' "Some Girls") and then Boat and B61.
In those last two bars, I saw evidence of a backlash. The bartenders at Boat and B61 said the owners had absented themselves from the distributor-operator-owner ecosystem by buying their CD jukeboxes, and the music reflected it. Boat's jukebox is dominated by indier-than-thou mixes contributed by regulars, and even the few traditional albums there have had their album art replaced by photos and doodles. Picking songs there is like learning a new language. B61's jukebox (my favorite) is surprising without being showoffy, offering up Jim Carroll, Ice Cube, the Jam and an obscure Replacements B-side ("If Only You Were Lonely") in rapid succession.
It's impossible to imagine Boat without its idiosyncratic CD jukebox, but elsewhere, digital is clearly on the march: Ecast CEO John Taylor says his company's Web jukeboxes typically earn two or three times as much a month as CD models. (For many bar owners, the debate will end right there.) The Brooklyn Inn's bartender said the staff had been rallying against a Web jukebox; when asked if Hank's Saloon had considered one, the bartender said, "Not yet." Surveying his mostly meat-and-potatoes CD jukebox, Dakota Roadhouse's owner said that "in 10 years it'll be like looking at one with 45s." At the Raccoon Lodge, one customer volunteered that a bar a few blocks had the same jukebox. Which, to me, is the core of the argument: With Ecast or TouchTunes, "the same jukebox" means more than the same model -- it means an interface to the same universal set of songs. Sure, that set is a couple of orders of magnitude bigger, but it's the restriction of musical choices is something that can tell you a lot about a bar's character.
With Web jukeboxes that premise is endangered, because every bar essentially has the same jukebox.
But not so fast. Ecast's Mr. Taylor notes that the bar owner and/or jukebox operator can filter, channel and otherwise tailor the company's Web jukeboxes in any number of ways, making an Ecast box heavily tilted toward blues or any other genre desired.
Along those lines, it's worth noting that the 10 most-played songs were quite different at the Raccoon Lodge and the Blarney Stone, both of which sported Ecast machines. CD jukeboxes expanded music choices from 100 vinyl sides to more than 1,000 songs, without apparently impacting a sense of community. There are lots of reasons people go to bars besides jukeboxes, and some of those reasons are pretty resistant to homogenization: You'd never mistake the Brooklyn Inn for the Nassau Bar even if both had the same uncustomized Web jukebox. But to my mind, the danger is still out there: I have my doubts that many bar owners will bother customizing their jukeboxes. And if every jukebox offers essentially infinite choices, every jukebox can be turned into your own jukebox, made to play your favorite songs. This is the kind of rugged, techno-powered individualism we've come to expect from our digital age, and it's not surprising to find it pushing into bars. But does it belong there? A good bar is a community, or at least aspires to be one, and I think a jukebox that's all things to all people runs counter to that. It was nice to see I could perform some prestidigitation and hear the Replacements in the Blarney Stone. But it was far more significant to find them waiting for me in B61. The former told me I could bend a bar's music to my will, or at least try. The latter told me I might belong.
Jukeboxes' New Era - WSJ.com - Real Time to z0606 song ... just posted
in Brooklyn] bartenders at Boat and B61 sd th owners hd absentd thmslves fr th distributor-operator-owner ecosyst by buying CD jukeboxes. Boat's dominated by indier-than-thou contr by rglrs- pickg songs there like learng new lang
via rw: Net-enabled jukeboxes offer 100k+ songs (WSJ)
Jukeboxes' New Era Web Jukes Can Be All Things to All People,But Is That What You Want in a Barroom?June 5, 2006REAL TIME By JASON FRY Last week I left the office one afternoon on an important mission: I had to visit a whole bunch of bars in lower Manhattan and Brooklyn. My interest wasn't beer (alas), but music: I'd just read about Web-enabled jukeboxes, and wanted to see if they were making inroads in New York City. They are. Of the 14 jukeboxes I encountered, half were digital, and bartenders and owners agreed that CD jukeboxes' days were coming to an end. I walked away from my survey thinking that Web jukeboxes were cool, but fretting that they were another example of how the digital age has empowered individualism but risks eroding a sense of community in doing so.
Let's get a few things straight: I don't wax nostalgic for the days of Wurlitzers that played 45s. I don't find CDs sonically lifeless. I don't grumble about MP3s being lossy. And I'm always excited to walk up to a bar jukebox with a $5 in my hand.
Any jukebox is a challenge, and programming one is an art that's part making a mix tape and part DJing. Beyond the obvious pitfalls -- no one in this bar really needs to hear "Sweet Caroline," "You Shook Me All Night Long" or "New York, New York" again -- you have to understand the bar's vibe to keep from detonating a musical land mine. (Just because an old-school Italian bar has "Welcome to the Jungle" on its jukebox doesn't mean a little G 'N R is what's called for at this particular moment.) Can you impress your music-geek pals with the right balance of undeservedly obscure songs, guaranteed-to-please tracks and stylistic left turns?
Jukeboxes don't have to be perfect, either: Any barfly with a buck can program a great jukebox, but it can be more fun to program a middling or bad one. Can you find the gems in a jukebox full of classic-rock warhorses? Give an frat-boy jukebox an indie tinge? Keep your rock-minded friends entertained in a country bar? And can you do it without arousing the ire of the regular clientele? Depending on the tone of voice used, few questions can be as heartening or wounding as "Did you pick this?"
The first three places I visited in lower Manhattan were Irish bars (two Blarney Stones and the John Street Bar and Grill), and all had digital jukeboxes from TouchTunes or Ecast. (According to the Associated Press, Montreal-based TouchTunes, founded in 1993, supplies songs for some 17,000 jukeboxes in the U.S.; San Francisco-based Ecast, founded in 1999, powers some 7,500.) Either way, the basics are the same: You flip through an alphabetical list of artists, pick an album cover, then are offered the most-popular songs from that album. If you don't find what you want that way, you can drill deeper and find other songs by the artist, or summon a virtual keyboard and type in a specific title. While some big artists are missing, as are many indie labels, we're still talking about hundreds of thousands of songs.
Only a few thousand of those songs are actually resident on the digital jukebox's hard drive -- if you're drilling deeper, you're searching through songs housed on a server somewhere else, and it costs more to download and play them. Depending on which variety of jukebox you encounter, you can see the most-played songs, look at new choices that have been spotlighted or pay a premium to skip your songs to the front of that jukebox's line. Web jukeboxes will definitely make life easier for bar owners: New albums and hit songs are pushed to them remotely, with no need to crack the jukebox open and swap CDs. And I quickly noted how easy it was to find and play songs I wouldn't find on many CD jukeboxes. My test cases were obscure but not impossible: albums by the Replacements and "Before They Make Me Run," Keith Richards' wobbly turn at the mike from the Rolling Stones' "Some Girls." The Web jukeboxes passed both tests, which was comforting, particularly while enduring "If You Leave Me Now" by Chicago.
I didn't find a CD jukebox until my fourth watering hole, the Nassau Bar (playing some unidentifiable metal when I arrived), and it contained a smorgasbord of metal, dance music, and mixes, including a willfully schizophrenic one that had Danzig and the Baha Men sharing space. (All in all, an interesting challenge to program.) Had the bikini-clad bartenders heard of Web jukeboxes? Absolutely -- in fact, they'd unsuccessfully lobbied the owner to get one. A few blocks uptown, the rough-and-tumble Raccoon Lodge ("Total Eclipse of the Heart" was playing, presumably ironically) had made the jump to an Ecast -- the bartender said an old vinyl jukebox was marooned in the basement. She called the Ecast the "best jukebox in the world," saying it let her have her own music play. The Raccoon Lodge's late-afternoon customers also endorsed the Ecast, applauding its selection and the ability to jump the line ahead of "some retard playing a bunch of country music".
In Brooklyn, things were different. My first stop was the affably bare-bones Hank's Saloon, whose CD jukebox is superb and even has a mix of Replacements songs. (And you get a generous 18 plays for $5.) From there, it was on to the Brooklyn Inn, site of a willfully eclectic CD juke (with the Stones' "Some Girls") and then Boat and B61.
In those last two bars, I saw evidence of a backlash. The bartenders at Boat and B61 said the owners had absented themselves from the distributor-operator-owner ecosystem by buying their CD jukeboxes, and the music reflected it. Boat's jukebox is dominated by indier-than-thou mixes contributed by regulars, and even the few traditional albums there have had their album art replaced by photos and doodles. Picking songs there is like learning a new language. B61's jukebox (my favorite) is surprising without being showoffy, offering up Jim Carroll, Ice Cube, the Jam and an obscure Replacements B-side ("If Only You Were Lonely") in rapid succession.
It's impossible to imagine Boat without its idiosyncratic CD jukebox, but elsewhere, digital is clearly on the march: Ecast CEO John Taylor says his company's Web jukeboxes typically earn two or three times as much a month as CD models. (For many bar owners, the debate will end right there.) The Brooklyn Inn's bartender said the staff had been rallying against a Web jukebox; when asked if Hank's Saloon had considered one, the bartender said, "Not yet." Surveying his mostly meat-and-potatoes CD jukebox, Dakota Roadhouse's owner said that "in 10 years it'll be like looking at one with 45s." At the Raccoon Lodge, one customer volunteered that a bar a few blocks had the same jukebox. Which, to me, is the core of the argument: With Ecast or TouchTunes, "the same jukebox" means more than the same model -- it means an interface to the same universal set of songs. Sure, that set is a couple of orders of magnitude bigger, but it's the restriction of musical choices is something that can tell you a lot about a bar's character.
With Web jukeboxes that premise is endangered, because every bar essentially has the same jukebox.
But not so fast. Ecast's Mr. Taylor notes that the bar owner and/or jukebox operator can filter, channel and otherwise tailor the company's Web jukeboxes in any number of ways, making an Ecast box heavily tilted toward blues or any other genre desired.
Along those lines, it's worth noting that the 10 most-played songs were quite different at the Raccoon Lodge and the Blarney Stone, both of which sported Ecast machines. CD jukeboxes expanded music choices from 100 vinyl sides to more than 1,000 songs, without apparently impacting a sense of community. There are lots of reasons people go to bars besides jukeboxes, and some of those reasons are pretty resistant to homogenization: You'd never mistake the Brooklyn Inn for the Nassau Bar even if both had the same uncustomized Web jukebox. But to my mind, the danger is still out there: I have my doubts that many bar owners will bother customizing their jukeboxes. And if every jukebox offers essentially infinite choices, every jukebox can be turned into your own jukebox, made to play your favorite songs. This is the kind of rugged, techno-powered individualism we've come to expect from our digital age, and it's not surprising to find it pushing into bars. But does it belong there? A good bar is a community, or at least aspires to be one, and I think a jukebox that's all things to all people runs counter to that. It was nice to see I could perform some prestidigitation and hear the Replacements in the Blarney Stone. But it was far more significant to find them waiting for me in B61. The former told me I could bend a bar's music to my will, or at least try. The latter told me I might belong.
Sunday, June 4, 2006
Knowledge Problem: "Great Ideas" from Penguin Books
At Marginal Revolution, Tyler Cowen points to a USA Today story about Penguin Books' new Great Ideas series. The books offer extracts, the USA Today story called them "samplings", from great non-fiction. The Penguin website invites visitors to vote on which of the first twenty books "you feel has had the most impact on the world." As of my visit, the voting was close between Darwin/On Natural Selectio and Marx and Engels/The Communist Manifest, each receiving around 20 percent of the vote with a slight edge to Marx and Engels. Of course, I have no idea which of the twenty books you feel has most affected the world, but on the narrower question of which book has most affected the world the nod would have to go to Darwin's On Natural Selection. Posted by Mike at October 7, 2005 09:43 AM
Guardian Unlimited Books | News | Penguin pack big ideas into tiny ...
Penguin hopes that the "Great Ideas" series, which is published this week, will tap into the sort of popular thirst for knowledge that the BBC campaign The ...
At Marginal Revolution, Tyler Cowen points to a USA Today story about Penguin Books' new Great Ideas series. The books offer extracts, the USA Today story called them "samplings", from great non-fiction. The Penguin website invites visitors to vote on which of the first twenty books "you feel has had the most impact on the world." As of my visit, the voting was close between Darwin/On Natural Selectio and Marx and Engels/The Communist Manifest, each receiving around 20 percent of the vote with a slight edge to Marx and Engels. Of course, I have no idea which of the twenty books you feel has most affected the world, but on the narrower question of which book has most affected the world the nod would have to go to Darwin's On Natural Selection. Posted by Mike at October 7, 2005 09:43 AM
Guardian Unlimited Books | News | Penguin pack big ideas into tiny ...
Penguin hopes that the "Great Ideas" series, which is published this week, will tap into the sort of popular thirst for knowledge that the BBC campaign The ...
Great Ideas - read the revolution.Penguin UK | series two | interview with the editor
what do I think of the design of these?
(a number of new ones just appeared)
when first? - last spring? - no, fall.
that was series 1 this is series 2 .
I find this one ~ attractive ~ posting image rather than covet.
do not think I like the words of Fear&Trembling written out on a small white bkcover.
Chapter 4, The Revelation of Saint John the Divine
1. After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
10. The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
11. Thou art worthy, 0 Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
1. After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
10. The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
11. Thou art worthy, 0 Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Saturday, June 3, 2006
they lack
poetry
which is intuition's metric
for psychological realism
Robot Wisdom auxiliary: Heraldic barcodes and the semantic web
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poetry
which is intuition's metric
for psychological realism
Robot Wisdom auxiliary: Heraldic barcodes and the semantic web
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steel worker boots guitar
if you wadnae
"If it wasnae for your wellies where would ye be
If y' didna' have your feet in your wellies"
if you wadnae
"If it wasnae for your wellies where would ye be
If y' didna' have your feet in your wellies"
Friday, June 2, 2006
Laura VanRyn --lauravanryn.blogspot.com/2006/05/wednesday-may-31-2006-100-pm.html
"What may come to us as a shock, does not shock the One who made us. " graceful in grief
CNN.com - Mistaken identity shifts grief after deadly accident - Jun 1, 2006 via k
family of Laura VanRyn, 22, disclosed the mix-up on their blog."Our hearts are aching as we have learned that the young woman we have been taking care of over the past five weeks" not Laura but university classmate Whitney Cerak.
"What may come to us as a shock, does not shock the One who made us. " graceful in grief
CNN.com - Mistaken identity shifts grief after deadly accident - Jun 1, 2006 via k
family of Laura VanRyn, 22, disclosed the mix-up on their blog."Our hearts are aching as we have learned that the young woman we have been taking care of over the past five weeks" not Laura but university classmate Whitney Cerak.
Thursday, June 1, 2006
Surreal paparazzi pix of Mariah Carey walking dog (Yeeeah-vfriv) are surreal aren't they. why~
Top-ten living male sex-legends (Zap2-list via wSmirch) JackNicholson 8k women?
Outsourcing outsourcing (today's-Dilbert)
Interesting "The Graduate" gossip sequel update (Cinem-short)
Pay-by-mile insurance as incentive to reduce driving? (dBaker-Harpers) yes seems gd idea
In 1716 one 9yo leapt at the chance to be kidnapped by pirates (LaTms via Morn)
=A Pirate's Life for a Wee Lad By Thomas H. Maugh II, Times Staff Writer
...King's fragmentary story is found in a deposition filed with the governor of Antigua on Nov. 30, 1716 by Abijah Savage, commander of the Antiguan sloop Bonetta. As was the usual practice, Savage reported to the governor the details of a pirate attack on his ship. On Nov. 9, the Bonetta was attacked by Bellamy's ship and held for 15 days. The pirates took all of their valuables, including "a Negro Man and an Indian Boy belonging to Mr. Benjamin Wicker" before releasing them. Savage wrote that one John King, who was sailing with his mother as a passenger from Jamaica to Antigua, "deserted his sloop, and went with the Pirates and was so far from being forced or compelled thereto by them as the deponent could perceive or learn that he declared he would Kill himself if he was Restrained, and even threatned his Mother who was then on Board as a Passenger with the Deponent."
Top-ten living male sex-legends (Zap2-list via wSmirch) JackNicholson 8k women?
Outsourcing outsourcing (today's-Dilbert)
Interesting "The Graduate" gossip sequel update (Cinem-short)
Pay-by-mile insurance as incentive to reduce driving? (dBaker-Harpers) yes seems gd idea
In 1716 one 9yo leapt at the chance to be kidnapped by pirates (LaTms via Morn)
=A Pirate's Life for a Wee Lad By Thomas H. Maugh II, Times Staff Writer
...King's fragmentary story is found in a deposition filed with the governor of Antigua on Nov. 30, 1716 by Abijah Savage, commander of the Antiguan sloop Bonetta. As was the usual practice, Savage reported to the governor the details of a pirate attack on his ship. On Nov. 9, the Bonetta was attacked by Bellamy's ship and held for 15 days. The pirates took all of their valuables, including "a Negro Man and an Indian Boy belonging to Mr. Benjamin Wicker" before releasing them. Savage wrote that one John King, who was sailing with his mother as a passenger from Jamaica to Antigua, "deserted his sloop, and went with the Pirates and was so far from being forced or compelled thereto by them as the deponent could perceive or learn that he declared he would Kill himself if he was Restrained, and even threatned his Mother who was then on Board as a Passenger with the Deponent."
flatrock org nz
rw:Anomalously tiny-brained humans w/normal IQs (long via digg)
Where Is Consciousness? I've Lost It! --- flatrock.org.nz/topics/science/is_the_brain_really_necessary.htm to z0606 ... saved by 58 other people I've seen this site before or no? seem seen article w this layout maybe via rw. what can tell about the authors here? family w 2 sons, is "I" father or mother?
Flat Rock --flatrock.org.nz to z0606 z ... saved by 2 other people ... 54 min ago
evth y want to know can now be found on the web. sites diffrntiatd by novel packaging or --as this site- unique combinatns of infrmatn. 1000s of articles here wh, together, carry meta-messages. ...see Newcomer page (also TOC and Topics pages)
Newcomer Page --flatrock.org.nz/newcomer_welcome.htm to z0606 z ... 51 min ago
epi 'still&all why..need this mssg:I think & feel as you do' Vonnegut quote I met ~recently on postcard. why I wld expect anyone navigate thru site appears reference articles: tgthr a philsphcl pastiche. briefly, th points tried to make are these - - -
and link to sons sites
yngr son Wolf's site:
All about Me --flatrock.org.nz/wolf/wolf_den/all_about_me.htm to z0606... 3 min ago
we (i.e. me, my dad, Jeff, my mom, Ruth, and my older brother, Cody) Charlotte,NC - dad comp conslt > family cruisd in CrossCountry motorhome >almst bought small hotel Port Townsend, WA > instd boat > NZealand 6 yrs >now in NJersey
After some more adventures, we got back to New Zealand, and, after some difficulties that too complex to put here -- there's some of it on [my mother's website] =
How We Came to Immigrate --flatrock.org.nz/forest_related/how_and_why_we_immigrated.htm to z0606 item ... just posted
ah so flatrock.org run by Mother
Where Is Consciousness? I've Lost It! --- flatrock.org.nz/topics/science/is_the_brain_really_necessary.htm to z0606 ... saved by 58 other people I've seen this site before or no? seem seen article w this layout maybe via rw. what can tell about the authors here? family w 2 sons, is "I" father or mother?
Flat Rock --flatrock.org.nz to z0606 z ... saved by 2 other people ... 54 min ago
evth y want to know can now be found on the web. sites diffrntiatd by novel packaging or --as this site- unique combinatns of infrmatn. 1000s of articles here wh, together, carry meta-messages. ...see Newcomer page (also TOC and Topics pages)
Newcomer Page --flatrock.org.nz/newcomer_welcome.htm to z0606 z ... 51 min ago
epi 'still&all why..need this mssg:I think & feel as you do' Vonnegut quote I met ~recently on postcard. why I wld expect anyone navigate thru site appears reference articles: tgthr a philsphcl pastiche. briefly, th points tried to make are these - - -
and link to sons sites
yngr son Wolf's site:
All about Me --flatrock.org.nz/wolf/wolf_den/all_about_me.htm to z0606... 3 min ago
we (i.e. me, my dad, Jeff, my mom, Ruth, and my older brother, Cody) Charlotte,NC - dad comp conslt > family cruisd in CrossCountry motorhome >almst bought small hotel Port Townsend, WA > instd boat > NZealand 6 yrs >now in NJersey
After some more adventures, we got back to New Zealand, and, after some difficulties that too complex to put here -- there's some of it on [my mother's website] =
How We Came to Immigrate --flatrock.org.nz/forest_related/how_and_why_we_immigrated.htm to z0606 item ... just posted
ah so flatrock.org run by Mother
interesting. family. (home school the kids? mother has some ngvt comments re what passes as Education, on Newcomer page.) travel together... motor home then boat. I like idea of New Zealand. and the almost buying a hotel in Port Townsend, Wa reminds me of Hotel New Hampshire.
Flat Rock Forests Unitholder Organisation
Suggester says: It's like the "I'm bored" website -- great for Sunday afternoons. - - - - - taggd: Politics - English
~flat rock~ far away from home *** a unique combination of information emanating from an educated mind enthusiastically sharing a wide-range of interests and intelligent observations
wow
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http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/flatrock.org.nz/
SU useful for this -- quick seeing what others think of a site [little CLOUD... ="add a comment, see what others think"] huh just as I said
Suggester says: It's like the "I'm bored" website -- great for Sunday afternoons. - - - - - taggd: Politics - English
~flat rock~ far away from home *** a unique combination of information emanating from an educated mind enthusiastically sharing a wide-range of interests and intelligent observations
wow
________________
http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/flatrock.org.nz/
SU useful for this -- quick seeing what others think of a site [little CLOUD... ="add a comment, see what others think"] huh just as I said
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