Thursday, December 24, 2015

"gender" is neither innate nor necessary to [sex:] being a man or woman; it's just window dressing traditionally meant to call attention to and emphasize one's sex

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/3xv16u/mtf_with_just_a_few_questions/cy86a99

Eclectic58MiddleAged Malcontent 2 points

First of all, we don't dislike people, in this case, people who identify as trans.
What we dislike and disagree with is the trans philosophy; the idea that it's possible to be one sex born into the "wrong" body of the other and that it's possible to change one's sex.
 I personally believe that trans people are the biggest victims of the gender system and the trans philosophy - the idea that you have to change yourself to be yourself.

We believe it's biologically impossible to change your sex and we don't believe that the brain is a sexed organ,
but we also believe that if {though} you can't become a woman, you can certainly become a different kind of man, other than what the stereotypes (what some call "gender" or "masculinity" and "femininity") tell you that you "should" be.   //yes!

To be clear, we believe that sex is biological and what is male or female, man or woman.

"Gender" on the other hand, is an artificial social construct that comprises the stereotyped notions of "masculinity" and "femininity", in regards to personality traits, personal expression and style, and interests.

Gender differs by culture and has not been consistent throughout history, while sex has always been the same in every culture and throughout history.

So, "gender" is neither innate nor necessary to being a man or woman; it's just window dressing traditionally meant to call attention to and emphasize one's sex; it doesn't determine what it is in the first place.  //yes v good, distinctions well articulated.   and had not seen put clearly: gender traditionally meant to call attn to sex. 




 https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/3xv16u/mtf_with_just_a_few_questions/cy81xo6

-Pyrgomache_AmazonAspiring She-Hulk: 
 
I don't know if I am a minority opinion here, but I have no problem with trans women. I've known a few trans women (and trans men) and all of them have been awesome people to me. //word.//
My issue with gender identity politics doesn't really have to do with individuals. My issue is with cultural sexism. //as seems appropr!  why take issue with (*against*) individuals//
...In sum, I realized that all the reasons I wanted to be male were actually due to me needing feminism, or things I can change as a woman, or things I couldn't even change with a sex change that I need to make peace with.

So, when I see MTF folks, I want to ask: why do you want to be a woman? Why do you hate your body? Are you wanting to align with sexist stereotypes?

If you want to wear a dress and makeup and be nurturing, you can do that as a man.
You need feminism and the abolition of gender, not a sex change. /yes.  though~ seems understandable to me might be worth it to live more or less as a woman.  given social reality at present.//  No need to be a woman for that. Fuck with the gender binary and just be you.  /yes. if you are up to that. //

If you want to change your body because it feels wrong, and it is causing you distress, then you need to talk to a doctor. Sex reassignment might be right for you if you are dysphoric.
Just realize you have benefitted from male privilege before you were perceived as female by others and don't silence other women when they talk about their own womanhood.
[And] please don't just conform to sexist notions of what a woman is, and still remember, "Fuck gender, fuck what people tell me to be, I'm just going to be me." 

Either way, just do you!  Do not let sexism hold you back from being gender nonconforming.

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