reconciling the goals of gender abolition {gender critical radical feminism} with the reality of the gendered world we are currently living in.

Transparent (2014) s02e09 Episode Script | SS    
 "Transparent" Man on the Land (TV Episode 2015) - IMDb  

Michigan Womyn's Music Festival and transgender people - Wkp |
. . . .Lisa Vogel, fbk May2014: Ours is a fundamental and respectful feminist statement about who this gathering is intended for, and if some cannot hear this without translating that into a “policy”, “ban” or a “prohibition”, this speaks to a deep-seated failure to think outside of structures of control that inform and guide the patriarchal world. Trans womyn and transmen have always attended this gathering. Some attend wanting to change the intention, while others feel the intention includes them. /ok./ Deciding how the festival’s intention applies to each person is not what we’re about. Defining the intention of the gathering for ourselves is vital. /fair enough./ .. Aug14: We believe that support for womyn-born-female space is not at odds with standing with and for the transgender community.   
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lisa vogel michfest - Google Search   
Everyone wants to talk about MichFest >> The Thang Blog   
This Year's Michigan Womyn's Music Festival Will Be the Last | Advocate.com
Op-ed: Michfest's Founder Chose to Shut Down Rather Than Change With the Times | Advocate.com
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* int// New Narratives 2014: Reframing the conversation | new directions in trans activism //via wkp Michfest & transgender: L Vogel: the statements calling for the boycott of the MWMF neither speak for all transgender womyn nor incl all of their voices, with regard to their support of the Festival’s intention of womyn-born-female space, for ex, the New Narratives Conference .. //
. . . .New Narratives 2014 is a trans woman-only discussion about the ways in which current trans theory harms trans women, and reconciling the goals of gender abolition {radical feminism} with the reality of the gendered world we are currently living in.     







. . . .     /here, hmm:  cut the crap with “sex is socially constructed” and “female penis” arguments.  .. How do we reduce violence against trans women of color, especially trans women of color who do sex work? How can we support trans women and trans teens who are homeless? .. We will still insist upon the ground rule that solutions to the problems of trans women cannot come at the expense of the rights of women born female. / ok well said.
The concept for this workshop came out of a conversation about attending Radfems Respond, which takes place in Portland the same weekend as our event. We plan to attend the Saturday portion of Radfems Respond, which is open to everyone. The Sunday portion of Radfems Respond is for women born female only. The thought occurred to all three of us: we’ll be in Portland anyway, so shouldn’t we use Sunday to have some tough conversations among ourselves, as trans women?   
New Narratives is meant to send the explicit message that we respect female-only spaces. [and] to communicate our understanding that trans women as a community are directly impacted by some issues affecting females (and that it makes sense for the two communities to work together on these), but that there are also many issues unique to each group.

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Radical Feminism FAQ | BEND IT TIL IT BREAKS {Rachel Ivy} | Men commit 95 percent of the violent crime and 98 percent of the sexual crime in the US. Men need to confront other men. They need to stop each other from committing violence, both against men—in their endless wars, for instance—and against women.      
This is what I said at Radfems Respond | BEND IT TIL IT BREAKS | Proponents of the liberal [vs radical] definition of gender believe that gender is something we are born with /seems nuts? really think this? consider/, and if a person’s inborn gender doesn’t match up with the accepted stereotypes for the body we’re born with, then it means that that person was born in the wrong body /nuts, rt?/.  This definition of gender is being used to tell children, toddlers, that they were born in the wrong body if they don’t conform to gender. This is an oppressive form of biological essentialism. The only groups of people whom I’ve heard defend gender as a natural, inevitable quality that we’re born with, other than gender liberals who call themselves progressive, are men’s rights activists and conservative religious fundamentalists.      
//see also// Lierre Keith at Radfems Respond | bendittilitbreaks   // radical feminist & radical environmentalist   lierre keith - Ggl   here see also Derrick Jensen ( remember fr seattle)

myths & thetruthaboutthemichiganfestival | ..There are many trans women & allies who do not feel that Michigan's intention is transphobic.* See article on the NewStatesman website* > Miranda Yardley re Newsnight    
Kellie Maloney, Newsnight, the debate the transgender community refused to have - by Miranda Yardley | NewStatesman | I was invited to debate fr the point of view of a trans woman who supports *a gender critical approach* informed by feminism. The gender critical approach establishes that "being a woman" is not a matter of an individual’s identity. Someone who is gender critical recognises that trans women are biologically male (and trans men are biologically female). ..This feminist approach views gender essentialism as the basis of women’s oppression.   These questions divide trans activists and radical feminists. What are the implications for women of positing a "female brain"? Should someone be accepted as a woman just because they say they are?  ///yes accepted as making valid choice to live as a woman, to find a better fit w female gender (ie stereotypes), given that we live in a world that is gendered.  but no, not as indistinct from cis women.  not as having a right that is denied if not explicitly included in 'women born women' groups. ///      

see also:   
ommadusk.tumblr.com/tagged/transactivism | personal blog of transsexual Miranda Yardley 
MirandaYardley.com | Blog of Gender Critical Transsexual Miranda Yardley > Cosmopolitan interview     
MirandaYardley | Matchwomen’s Festival Talk: It is wrong //unhelpful// to insist feminism centre transwomen, this forces the oppressed majority to centre the interests of part of the male oppressor class; women neither oppress nor have privilege by way of gender over trans people.


i'm scared too | uglyuglytruths.tumblr.com/tagged/trans+ideology 
 - The Trans Women Who Say That Trans Women Aren’t Women  

* TRANSAVANT - "Trans women are women" is a lie that is as... | I am a Gender Non Conforming Male or Transwoman if you prefer 
"Trans women are women" is a lie that is as dangerous to transwomen as it is to women. ..It’s a lie that sets us up to be triggered every time we are called he, or “guys” or somebody dares to suggest that we have male biology.  //y. valid choice to live as woman, to have found oneself with characteristics associated with female gender and thus better able to live as a woman, without this fragile (untenable-seeming) conception of being innately a woman, born in wrong body.//
Our personality, our choices, our empathies and our identities are worthy even if they are on the wrong /other/ side of the line /from expected stereotype-gender/. The line is made up. It’s not the natural order. Men can be anything. Women can be anything. /y!!// 
  Postscript:  I should also add that we have to live, survive and navigate our way in a gendered world and as such I support transition. I support the need to live *as* women as long as we understand and respect our differences. I also support medicalised treatment including surgery to deal with true dysphoria. Whether dysphoria is innate or a result of childhood experiences is irrelevant to the fact that it exists and needs to be treated compassionately. //as also any mental anguish, illness, suffering.//

*  cf New Narratives 2014 "a discussion about the ways in which current trans theory harms trans women, and reconciling the goals of gender abolition {radical feminism} with the reality of the gendered world we are currently living in."   

* TRANSAVANT p2 //I find this all sincere and thoughtful.



> Gender critical trans women: The apostates of the trans rights movement | Slate | by Michelle Goldberg (same as Nyr article) |  
To the mainstream trans rights movement, womanhood (or manhood) is a matter of self-perception.   
To radical feminists, it’s a material condition. 
Radical feminists believe women are a subordinate social class, oppressed due to their biology, and that there’s nothing innate about femininity.
They think you can’t have a woman’s brain in a man’s body because there’s no such thing as a “woman’s brain".
They see a difference between living as a woman {experiencing, in a social gendered world, more recognition as a woman} and being one {= having found oneself to have (be) a female body}.        
  
>> The Dispute Between Radical Feminism and Transgenderism | The New Yorker | by Michelle Goldberg //int Miranda Yardley and writer of Transavant met & started dating :)

> REAL for women | links:  
 --You Can’t ‘feel’ race, but can you ‘feel’ female? On Rachel Dolezal, Caitlyn Jenner, and unspeakable questions   <<<  y why is it dffrnt? may be a good answer, pointing out how the comparison is inappropriate, unhelpful. I'd like to hear that articulated.  (ask km.)
--Men Defining Rape: A History    

> The New Backlash    <<<



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