The Watcher - re Lost season 3 finale | Chicago Tribune:
-I like the new direction and mystery that the show has taken on. It's now not if they got off the island, it is what happened to get them off the island. We know at least Kate and Jack got home. What we don't know is what price they paid the devil to get to the mainland.
- I was intrigued, and seeing Kate get of the car at the end was a mind-blower, and definitely the "game changer" we were promised. How? Glad you asked... Why did Jack mention his dad? Did it occur to you that, at some point, the various "course corrections" vs. Desmond's alterations of time by saving Charlie, or perhaps by turning the key last season, has created an alternate timeline? Maybe one where Christian Shepard is still alive?
You are correct in saying that it's too simple to believe that Naomi's people simply rescued everyone. But I think what's really happened has completely gone past you. "Future Jack" isn't looking to get back to the island to rescue anyone left behind (I don't think *anyone* was left behind).
that's int. just as ~ per wkp ~ fr someone there was information that the plane of Oceanic 815 had been found on the ocean floor and all passengers had died.
ah here:
-Naomi said the wreck of 815 was found and there were no survivors. If Jack and Kate have survived and returned, that could mean they have altered reality. And maybe that's why Jack wants to go back - - To try and correct things to be the way they were meant to be.
-The rumors burning up the fan boards is that it is an alternate future or time line, exactly like heroes. Hints .. Jack's father .. The other thing is that Kate looked very pretty and domesticated while driving a nice new Volvo. Lest we forget, the US Marshall's considered her dangerous enough to follow her to Australia for murder.
-Remember way back in the first few episodes of the show, when Jack opened up his dad's coffin on the island? It was empty. So who knows.
-Also, in the LOST experience of last summer we were led to believe that Oceanic airlines went bankrupt. Jack in his flash forward was flying Oceanic.
-from the oceanic air website.. We regret to announce that Oceanic Airlines has ceased all operations effective immediately. Michael Orteig, President of Oceanic Airlines, released this statement: "After 25 years of service, we are forced to close our doors. Due to financial difficulties in the wake of the Flight 815 tragedy, we are no longer able to sustain service. We are deeply sorry that we can no longer serve our loyal customers, and apologize for any inconvenience our decision will cause." ..yet in the finale they are still in operation. I am certain reality has been altered in some way.
-The whole episode felt, to me, like a "Choose Your Own Adventure" book from my youth - and that's a compliment. I'm a BSG refuge who turned on LOST last night to procrastinate grading student essays; I have to agree that time must be a factor here; Jack wants to return not to rescue others in the sense that they are still on the island, but to rescue them from the future they made for themselves by leaving the island. If he can get back to the island, perhaps there is a way to reverse the situation. As in "If you place the call anyway, turn to page 84". Anyone follow?
-The name of the funeral parlor, Hoffs/Drawlar, is an anagram for (ready for this?) "Flashforward"
-My husband and I had much discussion last night about who was in the casket.
Couldn't be Locke, because I think he'd have killed himself rather than leave the island.
If you're going by the "black neighborhood" argument, it could have been Bernard, too, not just Rose, Michael or Walt. The fact that the people on the street outside the funeral home as well as the funeral director were black does not necessarily denote a "black neighborhood." It could also mean that it's just a less affluent neighborhood, as shown by the "not particularly posh" storefront funeral home. The deceased had to be someone who was: important enough to warrant a death announcement on the front page of the paper (well, that could be ANY of the Oceanic survivors); UNimportant enough to only warrant a very SMALL announcement (that leaves out Charlie the rock star and Hurley, since he was so well known due to the lottery win well in 4.1 he did not mention this as claim to fame, he said I a one of the Oceanic 6) ; someone with NO "significant other", relatives or close friends, since no one came to the viewing (that leaves out Hurley, Michael, Walt, Rose, Bernard and most of the rest. Could be Said or Sawyer but if Said is Muslim - pretty likely - he wouldn't be laid to rest in that fashion) ; someone with so little financial resources that his/her final arrangements were one step above Potter's Field.
My vote? Sawyer.
-Michael and Walt are from New York, and Rose is from Chicago (I think) so they would have no business being dead in LA.
-During the show, my thought was maybe it was Sawyer, but Kate's reference at the end of "he'll be wondering where I am" leads me to think she's still with Sawyer on "the outside."
..The central theme throughout the show is redemption. ..that's appealling. does seem so far that each character I've looked up has quite a troubled past..
As for the Naomi angle, I'm not sure she or her group are "evil", although Ben and Locke would probably consider them as such. My instinct says that her group is searching for the island and it's "magical" properties, but once they find it they have no reason not to get the crash survivors back to civilization. They don't necessarily have to reveal the island's actual location (hence Jack trying to find it again) and getting the survivors off leaves them with full access to it and no interference. makes sense.
I'm hoping that this coming season sees much more of a Hurley focus, I think he's somehow the key to how it will all fit together. well in 4.1 he got the focus.
-The best two lines of LOST ever had to be Hurley coming through the walkie:"Attention Others! Come in, Others!" That was hysterical.
-Does anyone know how many 'Others' are left? The 815-ers should outnumber them by a lot now which only leaves room for some sort of lame cooperation where they have to fend off these 'Other Others', a.k.a. Not-Penny's-Rescue-Team.
So since Ben's group killed the original Dharma people, are the Other Other's really Dharma people seeking revenge on Ben?
- Desmond wasn't in the room during Penny and Charlie's conversation. He doesn't know that Penny didn't send a rescue party. That fact, plus the "they found the wreckage of your plane" statement, plus Ben's protestations, tells me that it's the Dharma Initiative come to check on their investment. The question is this: why did they wait so long? Juliet was brought to the island 3 years ago. They'd been recruiting her for a while. How long has Ben and company been running that infrastructure? Has the signal been blocked for 16 years? And why the hell are the "taken" passengers and crew now part of the "family"?
-After going through this season of Heroes and Lost, I think I'm done reading. I could not disagree with you more when it comes to your opinions of those two shows. For me, one is easily one of the most fascinating, best written, best acted shows on TV since The West Wing. The other is paper tissue thin plots with bad acting. ah well that is encouraging. I've thought Lost may not be as good as people say, bcs they also say Heroes is good but I find it empty: boring, shallow, without design.
Lost has complicated plot lines, twists that are surprising and fun, and characters that are more developed and multi-faceted than any others on TV.
-If it's two-dimensional characters and acting you want, try Heroes. The writing and acting on Lost is about 1,000 times better. ok good.
-Simply incredible, the Lost finale. It does raise more questions but this is not a show about answers, it's a show about questioning, so it works. The last few episodes have been beautiful television, the reason we have those sets in our homes to begin with, and kudos to the writers for once again making the show creative enough to now give us the possibility of flash-forwards, or flashes to alternate realities.
-Actually, I think this episode would have made an excellent finale. That isn't because I want the show to end, there are still too many questions I really want to know the answers to. But at the same time, it would have ended in perfect Lost fashion, resolving a story without really answering anything.
Friday, February 1, 2008
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