Sunday, May 18, 2008

Forests, Death, Gardens robert pogue harrison merwin at least uphold a difference between meaning something at all, and not.

az- Gardens: An Essay on the Human Condition: Robert Pogue Harrison:

backcover shows just this:

"In this book's two great predecessors, Forests: The Shadow of Civilization and The Dominion of the Dead, Robert Pogue Harrison took two preoccupying images of the human psyche and considered them with a depth and originality that revealed their unlimited and unbroken presence in every assumption and moment of our lives. Gardens he describes modestly as an essay, but it does, or at least suggests, the same kind of pervasive presence of an underlying human impulse in our relation to the world around us. He does it with eloquence, grace, and erudition rooted in the literatures of his four native languages (including Turkish) that informed his earlier books. The range of his perspective on the human myth suggests that he may be our Bachelard."-W. S. Merwin

I want this to be meaningful bcs talking about 'my' ~ ruminative retelling ~ Calasso, PortraitoftheLover ...
----always these are Italians? rooted in Italian literature? Harrison is professor of Italian Literature at Stanford.
yes: eloquent, erudite, (wide)ranging perspective on myth. preoccupations. psyche. considered. depth originality. pervasive presense. what underlies.. relation to world around us. myth.
and I looked at Dominion of the Dead at Semcoop when published few yrs ago, and re Forests, before. thought elegant.

but there are these problems, troubling:preoccupying images. images that preoccupy, okay. of the psyche. okay. revealed the presence of these images in every assumption, every moment. ~ death. forest. okay.
Gardens he describes as an essay, but it does, or at least suggests, the same kind of pervasive presence of an underlying human impulse
-wait - the book *does* the same kind of pervasive presence ?
Gardens does the same pervasive presence.. does consider. does examine, does treat. ~ a straight up error, mean to bother about it? ~ but it's centered on the back, elegantly, this quote. and this sentence has a straight up error ? an absence where the predicate is wanted. (or what am I not understanding? how is this sense? syntax, grammar. it's not nothing. it's everything.)
but leaving that, okay:
Gardens suggests the same pervasive presence of an underlying human impulse in our relation to the world around us. what is pervasively present? an underlying human impulse ( ~ restating: preoccupying image of human psyche) in our relation to the world. ? okay: some in-each-case certain not-here-specified impulse that underlies and is always present in our relation to the world. an impulse having to do, respectively w Forests, Death, Gardens.
okay, the trouble is I wanted this to be meaninful, about what kind of book this is ~ ruminative retelling ~ a mediation, okay. and then read that sentence aloud to KM and tht, this didn't say anything. an underlying impulse in relation to world around us?

makes me not trust Merwin, does he know what he is saying?

makes feel at odds, with an 'everyone else' doesn't think there's a problem with the sense. at odds, saying: this matters. say things. don't say not-things. ~that is not what I meant at all. that is not it, at all.~
at least try to say what mean. at least uphold a difference between meaning something at all, and not.
or don't, whatever. it upsets me. not pedantry. it makes me feel alone.

ok with me if make mistake. if using word mean something else. what's not okay? carelessness ~ pretention. pretension.
the human myth. what other kind? really maybe it is necess to say 'human' psyche, 'human' impulse, 'human' myth. but if it is, tell me. have reasons for what you say. choose to say it. or else, what? you're not talking to me. whats his name in the Metaphysics that Aristotle mentions C____ moving his finger instead of speaking. Cratylus ~

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Very nicely said.

Harrison is ostentatious. I read Forests. I believe he wanted his book to say something meaningful, but it doesn't. A waste.

In re Merwin: that is an interesting point. But what kind of trust did you want to have for him?

I still trust Ezra Pound, but he became a fascist.

Harrison should have made do with 'wasteland', hollow men, and prufrock (and eliot of course didn't trust pound--but wrote for him) and left the scribbling professoriate to sell remainders

m said...

It's nice that you say my stream-of-off-the-cuff response here is well said. it is at least in earnest. which is what I want to trust a writer to be, especially a serious poet. (isn't Merwin esteemed for his poetry?) I want to trust that he is trying to express something he actually thinks or thought or is trying to think through. as opposed to ~ I think, as opposed to saying the kind of thing one supposes is said. convention displacing meaning.
Also interesting that you did find Harrison ostentatious. His books at first meeting appear lovely; it is disappointing.
I trust Heidegger, still. but I try to understand how the appeal of authenticity & rigor could inform an enchantment with fascism.

Anonymous said...

Why do you think there is that appeal?

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