glibness I dislike. seems specific to me, a common glibness. it is the mode of speech of the characters (&writers, on their blog) of greys anatomy. does 'glib' identify it? common bcs it's all over, people around, tv, blogs, a lot in blogs. writing for an audience very susceptible to conventions? well writing letters too, think of adolescent notes to friends and boyfriends, dramatic in a way given, or prescribed, aor s if agreed upon. conventional. by convention.
the rhythms are catching, I don't want in my mind.
so is that why: write in sketch, not composed sentences, to avoid it.
the author of Memory Room came to ebbco and said she wrote on index cards then bundled them up in different colors of ribbon by mood,tone,association - she said something about not wanting to write across a page, seemed too confident (of coherence -? that is what I want her to have meant, not: too bold for little me, but too coherent, and too susceptible to false rhythms of a conventional coherence, well worn coins - don't think she meant that so much - she was talking about 9-11, an after, how seemed could not dare to cohere)
right now since just encountering it in blogs online (that's the occasion of this) so it is too much there in my mind. the rhythm of presentation.
jaime- just don't like any pretension? any: not-meaning-what-say.
I like wry. has honesty in it, not literally but in the stance, in the mood conveyed.
I like idiom. - in book I read 1998ish ~The University ~John N - end of first chapter - re preference for someone w irony in speech, sense that what they say has been anticipated, said before. I like knowing turn of a phrase, inhabiting a speech pattern or idiom. 'snowclones.'
I like unknowing talk. caught up. earnest.
what I dislike: exaggerative. flippant. said to be humorous. (but this does not identify it, does it? bcs I can think of some funny to me people who exaggerate and flip ~ maybe ~ maybe not. I like Chelsea Handler, she's wry though. is this about any humor that is not wry not dry not eeyore?)
Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh:
"It's snowing still," said Eeyore gloomily.
"So it is." - "And freezing." - "Is it?" -
"Yes," said Eeyore. "However," he said, brightening up a little, "we haven't had an earthquake lately."
I put that with its picture of Eeyore in the small box on the Rice Univ application (supplement to the common application) and a cut out of lines from Szymborska as encountered first in Nyr 'Reality Demands.' which lines? I think: 'on tragic mtn passes the winds whips hats from heads and we can't help laughing at that.' the application said to put in the box sth you like.
so I put wry? tragedy with comedy a theme, I'm 17, my big hs paper is Passing The Open Windows: John Irving's comic tragic vision. vision eh. World according to Garp, Owen Meany, Hotel New Hampshire. saying, look this is very sad and it is funny. that's all the paper said I think. look, in this passage also.
of course, have noted re this before. keep wanting to name it. articulate. what I dislike.
this stood out in what just read, whole thing was in this style, this works as a representative example:
-because __ is one thing but __? that's just inexcusable.
shows up a lot as disavowing or jesting about emotion, involvement:
-this is just sad. -this is kind of appalling. -someone had a lot of time on their hands.
maybe that's the whole deal, the disavowal of emotion. not part of the fray. makes me angry. the woman on the today show watches the video of Christian the lion reuniting with the two guys who raised him and she cries and says I'm crying and the guy says I know, it's kind of disturbing. I hate him saying that. what a jerk. not bcs mean to her bcs it's mean about being moved, feeling something. mean. small.
it's not really disturbing, he's not really disturbed, why say that. supposed to be funny. people do laugh I guess. they do suppose it is funny. what's funny about it.
-not that these kinds of happenings are rare. in fact this kind of thing happens with an alarming frequency.
I recognize this way of talking, I did it a lot esp in early teenage years, 12-13-14 maybe, you think it's humorous to say something is alarming? to take the stance of the bystander who remarks on things as strange. but does not seem affected by it. above it, I guess. oh the amusingly strange ways of the people. not moved to thought or feeling. not Charlie on Life who I like, saying Is that right? Is that right.)
I recall a story I wrote for Mr Johnson's english class
-also I remember his stories, two I think, that he showed me and I read, one may have been about an english teacher and a student who was cool, the title had 'cool' in it, something about a finger, did the student give the finger to his teacher when seeing him out of class? there was some irony, some intended hauntish resonance ~ we real cool we play pool ~ that poem I probably was introduced to in that class, so good for Mr Johnson, he was an influence on me, I was fairly normal and able to be influenced, and Iwas I remember How to write a poem - first remember everything - the grey wallpaper, the stench of the _ - ...which is not to say it is not a fact - ... in the light of _ when your father lies dying - take notes - the line you find does not have to be worth the dying -
and he liked my story, I remember as if got praise, got laughs, maybe he had me read it aloud? it was the voice of a kid a brat yes superior tone: I'm the normal one in a family of weirdos. the story describing mom and dad and sis in their alien laughable behaviors eg
My dad, now, you wouldn't want to try to get my dad to get up after 7pm. I've never seen my dad after 7pm *not* in his lazyboy. the idea of it makes my head spin.
ok I hope it was not that blah, it was funnier, but it was in that tone "now, you wouldn't' - subjunctive, intimacy with reader, derision of the oddball family that is my accursed lot.
-among other things what is it about this. didn't mind it in book title: among other things I've taken up smoking but that's bcs sounds to me like someone being wry about themselves, wryly unapologetic: this is what I do. it's not good for me, I would be better off not doing it, and it is what I do. --- the reader bernard schlink: there are my thoughts, there are my decisions, and there are my actions. ....
-among other things, my neighbor has the irritating habit of moving furniture, routinely, in the middle of the night. when I say routinely, I mean: every night. and when I say in the middle of the night, I mean: at 3am. so I'm a forgiving guy right? just because the thudding and even crashing sounds of bookshelves and heavy desks being pushed across floors keeps me from ever getting more than three hours of sleeps doesn't mean I can't be neighborly right? I'm a go along to get along person. just, does all the furniture have to go along too? every night?
that was going to be a composite but just went with it. part of what I dislike, easy to string these words, don't have to consider anything to know what to say? what is this passage doing? appealing to common point of view 'right?' author & reader against the neighbor, how author will deal with the crazies of the world, the crazies in your neighborhood. us against them. and a kind of ~understatement. is that it is, to say 'just, does it have to be __ ?' but it's in the same service as the overstatement, the exaggeration. which is what. in service of what.
making a list feels like participating, same rhythm, observing & commenting: 'things I d n like'.
a list of things thrown five minutes ago. well that I like an aspect of, what? the relationship to five minutes ago. ago. ago ness.
McSweeneys lists and their whole website 'internet tendency' has this feel doesn't it. that's why makes me feel bad and I mostly do not read it.
am going to list anyway, seems helpful to collect examples, see if someone can tell me what they hear. 'mmmm that's what I hear in your sounds' dar - which goes to, why this matters to me, bcs it is in me a critiscm of people I used to know when I was 20 and civilized, among peers. am angry disappointed people I thought I liked talk like this. and angry it seems to me the voice of normality. of normal (american?) ~writerly sensibility. writerly. bunk. anyway is that right, is it normality's way of talking? the way the well-adjusted write their blogs?
-people, ___ -seriously, don't. just don't. -yes I am weird.
-But I digress. -__, nay, ___. - ______, no?
-turned to me and -suddenly -realized -not so much.
-that can't be good. --No, no I do not.
-favorite human on the planet. - ... in all creation.
dislike v much. why. again, bcs do not mean it. ? not thinking especially of all creation. and planets makes me picture black space, white astronaut.
-I ____ (eg repeat myself. laugh loudly. love coffee.). I know this. I am known for this.
the short sentences. full stop. or single words. so again it's about emphasis. most of this is exaggeration? "that's just inexcusable" well the 'inexcusable' is an exaggeration and the 'that's just' is the speaker being knowing ~ in relation to unknowing people, masses? a kind of superiority all through? maybe. or just color? emphasis, overstating. is that so bad.
Tuesday, July 29, 2008
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