Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Long Live Locke.: S5Ep2 - The Lie:
Remember how truly, deeply shocked Ben was when Alex was killed? He found Widmore off-Island and told him that he would get revenge for Alex's death by killing Penny, and that Widmore would come to regret 'changing the rules.' ..
But was it Widmore who did something to change the rules? Or was it Desmond (who Daniel claims is the only person who can)? Let's not forget how our favorite Scotsman greatly delayed Charlie's death. Desmond had visions of several ways Charlie was supposed to kick the bucket but he managed to keep them from happening. Until, that is, the ex-rocker drowned in the Looking Glass after enabling communication between the Island and the freighter.
This allowed Keamy's team arrive. They killed Alex, the freighter blew when Ben killed Keamy, the Oceanic Six left and then Ben moved the Island and all hell broke loose. As Ben had said to Locke, doing so was "a last resort". Ben knew he was out of options by that point.
If Desmond hadn't tried to save Charlie and had heeded Ms. Hawking's warning that he should never interfere with fate, would everyone still be chillin' on the beach, drinking stale DHARMA beer after a long day of participating in the second Island Open?

Once the communication lines were opened by Charlie and once Jack answered the freighter's call, Widmore knew where the Island was.


Long Live Locke.: S5Ep1 - Because You Left
this writeup is great, all good sense + ideas new to me, cld be wh Lindelof means th will see was always a time-travel show
re Locke encountr Ethan at plane: wldn't Ethan freak out wh sees Locke 2004? maybe DID recognize eo (as seen time travel cnscsns weirdness so Locke physically in 2004 meetg Ethan in past, maybe cnscns records as happeng in past.) S1e9-10 Locke & Ethan lot time hanging out by thmslvs.
Who are th chars left fr S1 now driftg thr time?
Locke, Sawyer, Rose. There are reasons believe all three had buried memories of their time-jumpg fr moment landed Island. /cool./
Rose was adamant her husband alive elsewh on Island. We all attributed this to her strong faith.
Sawyer to Kate in s1e5: "It's about time. I made this birthday wish 4 yrs ago."
Locke: how m times known about to rain? told ppl wh 'supposed' to do? he's figured followg some strong instinct, maybe actually bcs he's more connected to Island, his time-jump memories more accessible to him.


-Roland said... My current thinking about LOST Time Loops: S1-S4 showed us the Penultimate Time Loop. In various previous TL’s, there were no survivors of the Flight 815 crash, Mikhail met a Paralysed John Locke (of whom he had a “fleeting memory” in “Par Avion”), Charlie programmed the LG jammer and Juliet received her first three shoulder dislocations.

-lost and back again said...
When Locke and Boone first encountered the Beechcraft in Season 1, Episode 13, Locke temporarily lost the use of his legs. Was that incident somehow related to the gunshot wound from Ethan? In that same episode, Locke gave his compass to Sayid. Did he no longer need it? that's what he said. Sayid: "Don't you need it?" Locke: "Not anymore." cool.

- m said... wow! I had already read lots of comments (on other blogs) about this episode, so I expected your writeup to be a pleasingly well-written revisiting of ideas already encountered. but no, in addition to covering just about everything of interest with attention & good sense, your observations about Ethan & Locke hanging out in season one, and about Sawyer's "birthday wish four years ago" line (which I never thought of as begging any question, but just passed me by as a typically Sawyer-style quip) are totally new to me! I love your detailing of how Rose, Sawyer, and Locke -- the complete & exclusive three we knew in season one who are still on the island & doing the time-jumping now -- all seem likely to have had future-past memories from the beginning. very cool.

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