The Killing: Forbrydelsen Comes to AMC - TWoP Forums p5 (...-p12)

-cilucia: I liked it. Two quick thoughts 1. Holder reminds me of Jesse from Breaking Bad, especially the Funyuns comment. neato. just wh I tht (prvs dlww post just few hrs ago) - satisfying. 2. Richmond reminded me of Carcetti from the Wire. Kinda looks like him too.

- I've seen tons of procedural episodes that had all these elements but the long time they are giving to the investigation and the mood, pacing and acting quality certainly elevate it. There are almost too many likely suspects. I'd go for the teacher if he hadn't been such a good guy on Harper's Island. oh huh, hadn't even esp reacted to him as fmlr but right he was one of th groom's friends, along w blonde Sully. Danny I think was his name. and he was a really nice guy. int also bcs I've been thinking of Harpers Island wh mostly I forget. not random to think of in cxnn w this, I guess, bcs also a series long mystery ~ cast of suspects. I found th show pretty fun.
and there's a second actor cxnn:
-My favourite theory that I've seen speculated elsewhere on the interwebs so far is that it's Linden's fiance because Callum Keith Rennie is playing him and he always plays bad guys. Callum K Rennie played big bad Wakefield in Harpers Island (I'd not known him before but cmmtrs in twop already regarded him as an actor who is usually the bad guy.
..It could be anyone at this point: the mother, the father, the councilman, one of the councilman's assistants, the councilman's opponent in the mayoral race, a classmate, some other person we haven't met yet.
dsn't seem like all th many suspects to me. we see the detectives (show started w Sarah, jogging, intercut w the crime - the girl Rosie running fr pursuer), the family, the high school, and the politicians. so, the usual ppl in her surrounds - family, classmates - and the mayoral campaign added as one other group of ppl ie field of suspects.
oh fr ggl re orig also there is the guy Belko who works w dad . I noted in credits 'Brendan Sexton ii' or so, wondered if related to Brent Sexton who plays the dad: no. in course of wh read he is Belko & imdb says is in all epsds, and bcs was seen immedly as a jerk seems suspect. other obvs jerk is jamie the little blonde guy campaign manager.

-Danie84: I've found my new favorite show. I loved the morbidity, characters ('lots of familiar faces), and Seattle's backdrop. Hope it lives up to the fun bloody whodunnit Harper's Island.

-I was so happy that the sister asked Michelle Forbes' character why she didn't call Rosie at all. That pretty much made my day. Because who doesn't call their teenage daughter after being gone ALLWEEKEND. WUT?

-the weather in Seattle is not that erratic, even in November! It gets colder and of course rains quite a bit, but usually it's drizzle/sunbreak/cloud/repeat, not downpour/sunny day/lowering clouds/monsoon. :) yeah I d n even at all remember downpours wh there must hv been but not constantly

-parts of it reminded me of Mystic River as others have mentioned ah right maybe Mystic River contrbs to paradigm for me

-I enjoyed the parallels between the pacing of this pilot and the Twin Peaks pilot. The way it all unfolded gave me some serious deja vue. The way the mom finds out about her daughter's death over the phone, the cops going to the high school to interview the kids, the searching of the bedroom, panning shots of the city, video footage of the victim, and the powerful music really brought it back to me.
--kostgard: I had the same thought when the mother got the bad news while on the phone listening to her husband break down: that's exactly how Laura Palmer's parents found out about her death. That and some of the high school stuff, and the to-do about the necklace (Rosie's butterfly, Laura's half-heart) reminded me of Twin Peaks.
cmmtrs energized in 'disagreeing' w this comparison. much debated. I think the anti-TwinPeaks ppl make poor pnts (about similarities being tropes in all mysteries, + superficial just NW setting & victim teenage girls). I side w the defenders:
-polarbeorn: he similarities between this show and Twin Peaks are much MUCH more than superficial. People look back at Twin Peaks and remember it being all dancing dwarves and log ladies. They forget the pilot was very realistic and very, very grim. And many of the details from that pilot are right here in this new show, and not just standard murder-mystery "tropes". From the setting to the music to the climate. Even several scenes were virtual copies... The dead girl's mother learning of her daughters death because she overhears her husband crying on the other side with the police....The discovery of the "cage" is identical to the discovery of the bloodstained boxcar where Laura Palmer was killed...the slowly increasing police presence at the high school where the students gradually realize what happened...the mudered girls bedroom...her necklace...the emphasis on her photograph on the wall...her jackass boyfriend...her misleading best friend...her catatonic mother...the weird new cop (Dale Cooper loved coffee, this guy loves weed!)...each episode covering one successive day in the investigation...
I understand Twin Peaks quickly took a sharp left turn onto the boulevard of surrealism and never looked back; and from what I've heard about Forbrydelsen, this show will follow its own different path (which I'm happy about); but the reviewers are right to point out the very clear and obvious connection between these two series.

-The format, the single crime, revolving around a number of the days of the investigation, that focuses on a number of points of views from the police, to the family, to the various suspects and their lives actually reminds me more of a British show that came out a few years ago called 'Five Days' than it does of Twin Peaks. I think it was also shown on HBO. Considering the original 'The Killing' is set in Denmark if I was going suspect a source of inspiration I'd pick that. Even the way the crimes were eventually resolved was kind of similar.

-ropes pierre: Anyone get the vibe that the kid is not hers( Linden) , but the son of the crackhead/the kid who drew the picture she had in her box? I did not see any baby pictures of him, just the one on the fridge. oh good call, that's int and wld work. had Holder ask "what happened to the kid?" and then interruptn before she cld answer
I think my strategy for this show is to disbelieve anything they tell me (the constant misdirection) and watch for the things they show without drawing attention to heavily.