Tuesday, August 9, 2005

www, what's out there

The source of confusion is the simple fact that users today don’t understand two things. First, they don’t understand why the www. is (or isn’t) there, and second, they don’t understand that the Web is not the whole of the Internet. http://www.yes-www.org/www-is-not-deprecated/

...the current "is it really Web 2.0?" discussion : Tim Bray writes: In terms of qualitative changes of everyone’s experience of the Web, the first happened when Google hit its stride and suddenly search was useful for, and used by, everyone every day. The second—syndication and blogging turning the Web from a library into an event stream—is in the middle of happening.
--wrd! very nicely said

k: http://www.kottke.org/05/08/the-present-future: Perhaps this is impossible or unfair, but can we have a discussion about where technology and user experience on the web are headed without using any of the following words or concepts:

[Ajax, web services, weblogs, Google, del.icio.us, Flickr, folksonomy, tags, hacks, podcasting, wikis, bottom-up, RSS, citizen journalism, mobile, TiVo, the Long Tail, and convergence. ]

whoa.
---- -Google -weblogs -Flickr -wikis ~web services, tags, hacks -podcasting (bottom up, citizen journalism, mobile) - Tivo ~convergence ? Ajax -Long Tail -folksonomy?
----is del.icio.us better than just having your own "blog"sitewhtvr to use as a list of links? [the first attraction for me of this was a links list I could access at any computer]. >>yes value in everybody's links being collected and relatable - can organize by tags, sort others by tags, subscribe to others = receive in an inbox (int: can't see subscribees, good I guess)

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k: What else is out there? Anything?

__when the line between desktop applications and web applications becomes blurred__

good -» by Philipp Lenssen :
Just brainstorming here:
-natural speech input -web office more popular than MS Office
-ultra-realistic, auto-generated, customizable, web-based 3d porn
-richer forms in terms of interface, allowing true web apps like Photoshop Online to emerge
- true editing capabilities built right into the browser, an HTML page as Word-like document
- the browser itself a web application, with only a minimum framework provided by the OS

-One way of approaching this discussion might be finishing the statement... "It's 2005 and it's hard to believe believe that I can't..." (or "still have to" or "they don't have"). Like - I can't believe I still have to cut and paste URLs all the time.» by jerry jeff

-Its full circle if you ask me...hopefully no green monitors though. Web 0.0 here we come.» by Max

-I think of things like Second Life and Croquet are a great way to get the internet out of the browser. It's like the MMORPG comparison someone made earlier. Croquet is double-nifty because it is entirely a platform for collaboration, and a way to make the web even more of a give and take experience.» by Alex Cline


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