Sunday, July 23, 2017

everyone against. //game of thrones as season seven starts//

 www.quora.com/Is-Game-of-Thrones-heading-toward-a-war-of-the-five-queens

 //ggld "war of" queens since wondering if now wld hv that, and yes comes up as already m of discussion, and sound like grrm actually had in text "war of three queens" I gather maybe Cersei Dany and Marjorie (someone says Olenna replacing Marjorie, I guess in bk marjorie is not killed as in show in sept by cersei... but anyway, the Tyrells would be against cersei and support dany just as in show, I'd think, in books do tyrells want own kingdom?

queens: Cersei v Dany only ones wanting the iron throne?  then: Olenna, Ellaria, Sansa, Yara.  none of these going for the throne.  but I guess Robb was not either.  just against (refusing the lannisters.

found answer I like, 
v satisying see someone else say how completely everyone else is against Cersei:  

And then in the gold corner we have QUEEN Cersei and what remains of of the Lannister forces. That's it. That is all she has at her disposal. This is being built up to be more one sided then a kid burning ants with a magnifying glass. //yes! seems to me wld be over before begun!   

the North, the Riverlands+ and the Vale /wh seems to have the - most!? - sizable surviving forces, under robin technically, with littlefinger controlling, who is for now wanting to put himself with Sansa/  seem to have formed their own kingdom  /int yes I suppose that is right, all uniting around Starks Winterfell Jon Sansa.  a kingdom of the north and midnorth the way down.//

the Reach /Olenna Tyrell/ and Dorne /Ellaria/  are siding with Dany /specifically because Against Cersei)

and of course the Stormlands forces (of Stannis, who had also gotten Renly's men, and anyway were entirely against Cersei) were essentially destroyed on the Blackwater.  //this seems irrelevant but ok accounts for the baratheon forces which were maybe one of strong armies; and there was lannister now not much and then the vale wh still seems to be strong.  
~ the north more independent and diminished but still some. //

...who else? the iron islands wild card Euron wanted to go side with Dany but Yara beat him there, so now open to ingratiating himself with Cerei, so she might have his ships, but Dany has Yara's - even if fewer, still does little to balance out Cersei's being overwhelming outnumbered by All the other kingdoms.

Jamie said to her in season 7 premiere, when she said I am the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms: "three, at best."  I cannot count even three?  their own Lannister  hold of Casterly Rock, the East.  
vs.
the North (Starks et al) are against her, though not coming for her, focused on bigger threat.
the East - Stormlands (Dany, coming for it all).  
the middle - the Reach (Olenna, joining w Dany against Cersei).
the South - Dorne (Ellaria, joining w Dany against Cersei))


that's the four distinct kingdoms, along with west casterly rock } clear five kingdoms, had had own kings, then ~ after conquest ~ of Targaryens, so several hundred years ago? ~ became lord protectorates.  North South East West Middle (d n wh call the reach). 
beyond that gets confusing / actually less clear in Westerosi history? 
I d n think the riverlands ever counted ("making the eight", they were the eighth? ** ?
and iron islands iffy but maybe counted so that was six.  
then??  Kings Landing counts? not a kingdom, right? but where Targaryen ~ Aegon the Conqueror? landed?  (but, did he not land stormlands dragonstone? just claim it ** ?

Danaerys = Targaryen - claim to whole 'seven-kingdoms' Westeros  iron throne; and at present in the throne in at Dragonstone - Stormlands - the West, former Baratheon kingdom).
Olenna = Tyrell - Highgarden - the Reach, the whole fruitful Inland where most food from: I thought said earlier on that KL would be at a loss without food supplies fr?  even apart from forces coming against KL.
Ellaria = Martells by way of prince Oberon, king's brother) - Dorne, the South. 


+ who are Lords of Riverlands now?  Tullys all?  gone killed by Lannister forces last season, when Freys were failing to take back the Tully castle 
anyway now the Lannister allies the Freys of nearish the Twins are gone, killed by Starks ie Arya.

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whole answer
https://www.quora.com/Is-Game-of-Thrones-heading-toward-a-war-of-the-five-queens/answer/Joseph-Anthony-30
We are definitely heading towards another southron war or battle over the iron throne, of that we can be certain. Whether its called the war of five queens however is up for debate. Lets break it down shall we.
In the red corner we we have the QUEEN Daenerys Stormborn of the house Targaryen. A lady of a thousand titles she is ready to rain down fire and blood on anyone who gets in her way. Accompanying her on her noble quest are the QUEEN of thorns and Princess (I think that's her title now) Ellaria Sand who are both hell-bent on exacting revenge on the bitches that stole ones they love also known as the Lannisters. As for Yara she's just trying to evade her uncle. She is no queen just a hard-ass seadog looking to reclaim the iron islands.
And then in the gold corner we have QUEEN Cersei and what remains of of the Lannister forces. That's it. That is all she has at her disposal. After all the north, the riverlands and the vale seem to have formed their own kingdom, the reach and Dorne are siding with Dany and of course the Stormlands forces were essentially destroyed on the Blackwater. This is being built up to be more one sided then a kid burning ants with a magnifying glass. As for Sansa she is no queen nor is she heading south anytime soon. She is siding with Jon and as a result their major concern is based beyond the wall defending the realms of gods and men from the others. So finally if we are going to be technical the upcoming southron battle is titled exactly the same as it is in the books, as the war of three queens. Only this time Margaery is being substituted with her grandma Olenna.
Thankyou for the A2A. -

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